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[Laurentius]

TZkde

 

[down 2 orth]

I think a lot of us knew this was bound to happen. I'm glad I waited, will definitely buy it when it comes out.

 

[Chaos2Frozen]

So... There is such a thing as a last gen PC =3

 

[duckroll]

Still leaves the window wide open for a loyalty discount at least. It better be a deep one.

Yeah since they're clearly trying to sell the DX11 version as a totally new product on its own, that's the only goodwill option left.

 

[Dysun]

Happy that I haven't gotten around to picking up Dark Souls 2 yet. Will pick it up for PC next year

 

[dark_inferno]

Now i feel awesome for not buying the first version of Dark Souls 2.

Where is my Demon Souls, Dark Souls Remastered?

 

[Beerman462]

Will they fix the accelerated equipment degradation at 60fps?

 

[StuBurns]

Here's the Japanese press release: http://www.4gamer.net/games/196/G019662/20141125021/

Relevant footnotes:
※従来機版と新世代機版はそれぞれゲームサーバーが異なります。
※従来機版と新世代機版とのオンラインマッチングはできません。（PS3とPS4のマッチングはできません）
※従来機版から新世代機版へのセーブデータの引き継ぎはできません。
※Windows（DirectX.9対応）版からWindows（DirectX.11対応）版へのアップグレードはできません。

- Last-gen and new-gen versions use different game servers.
- Last-gen and new-gen versions are not compatible for online matchmaking. (PS3 to PS4 matchmaking is not supported)
- You cannot transfer save data from last-gen to new-gen.
- You cannot upgrade the Windows (DirectX9) version to the Windows (DirectX11) version.

In the press release they also specify very clearly that "last-gen" refers specifically to the PS3, 360, and DX9 versions, while "new-gen" refers to the PS4, XBO, and DX11 versions. No confusion.

This is fucking crazy.

Bamco, you're going to have to sell these people Dark Souls 3, don't shit on them.

Fuckwits.

 

[epmode]

- Last-gen and new-gen versions use different game servers.
- Last-gen and new-gen versions are not compatible for online matchmaking. (PS3 to PS4 matchmaking is not supported)
- You cannot transfer save data from last-gen to new-gen.
- You cannot upgrade the Windows (DirectX9) version to the Windows (DirectX11) version.

In the press release they also specify very clearly that "last-gen" refers specifically to the PS3, 360, and DX9 versions, while "new-gen" refers to the PS4, XBO, and DX11 versions. No confusion.

Shameful. From the PC perspective, I mean.

Namco's handling of the downgrade was disgusting to begin with so I guess this is nothing new.

 

[Skux]

This has a lot of value for me but I can understand why PC owners would be annoyed.

 

[MormaPope]

As well as the ability to play with those that have the DX11 version. =\

Didn't even think of that.

I still haven't gotten the DLC for the 360 version, so I'll probably wait for a price drop to $20, since all the DLC together is $30.

 

[Kysen]

With BB out not gonna bother with this. Doesn't look like a big enough upgrade.

 

[Atruvius]

Here's the Japanese press release: http://www.4gamer.net/games/196/G019662/20141125021/

Relevant footnotes:
※Windows（DirectX.9対応）版からWindows（DirectX.11対応）版へのアップグレードはできません。


- You cannot upgrade the Windows (DirectX9) version to the Windows (DirectX11) version.

Wow, that's really scummy of them. Definitely won't be buying this nor will buy their next game full priced if at all.

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

lol I rather not......especially since Bloodborne is coming out.

 

[Str1ke4]

I've already bought this game 3 times. They have enough of my money. They aren't getting any more.

 

[Duxxy3]

So... There is such a thing as a last gen PC =3

Yeah, you could effectively make the claim that the difference between DX9 and DX11 is a generational difference. If your PC is only capable of DX9, you're relatively equal to the PS3/360 generation. If it can handle DX11, then your PC is closer to the PS4/XB1 generation.

 

[Sanpei]

It is too late...

 

[Tidus_Great]

not a good idea to release after the superior ps4 exclusive Bloodborne TBQH

they should have had it ready for this year.

 

[Valnen]

Wait what? Cool. Completely unexpected though.

Unexpected? Really? The only reason I haven't bought the game yet is everyone knew this was coming. Or at least I thought they did?

Now I can play the superior version on my first run. As I predicted!

 

[Easy_D]

Dark Souls 2: Prepare to Rebuy Edition

OT name right there. Works on every level.


Edit: HOLY FUCK. NO UPGRADE OPTION? So you fucking expect users to pay FULL PRICE for a fucking graphics patch? Fuck you Namco.

 

[Pooya]

I've played over 200 hours already and have no motivation to start all over again, ah. I take it those NPCs and new events are not part of the ps360 patch and re-release? or are they?

 

[Laurentius]

5wpZa

 

[B-Genius]

If you double dip here, you're part of the problem.

I bought it on PC already once, and they failed to explain themselves for dumbing things down a couple weeks before launch.. Well now we know why.

It's okay though. I didn't buy their planned DLC either.

Check out clever clogs over here.

If it's "okay" and you feel so great about yourself, why don't you go back to fighting the good fight by just enjoying the games you enjoy. You think anyone's gonna be swayed by such "part of the problem" nonsense?

Go ahead and call the publishers liars every time this happens. It's never going to change the way they operate. Just make your own informed decisions and buy/play what you want to play.

 

[Jomjom]

Lame they picked the worst souls game to remaster. At least give us a remaster trilogy.

 

[MormaPope]

I've played over 200 hours already and have no motivation to start all over again, ah. I take it those NPCs and new events are not part of the ps360 patch and re-release? or are they?

From Kotaku's article:

Whew. Consider this Dark Souls II: Remastered... with a clunkier title. There's also a new patch—v1.10—that you'll get no matter which version of Dark Souls II you own. The patch "will add new features including an additional NPC to seek out along the treacherous quest through Drangleic as well as expanded story, in-game events, improved balance, and online matchmaking functionality.

http://kotaku.com/dark-souls-ii-is-coming-to-ps4-and-xbox-one-1662893330

 

[Crimsonclaw111]

Do we know the framerate? Surely it must be 60, considering it runs 60 on a shitty PC?

You'd think so but even Alien was 30fps on consoles. I'd brace for 30fps.

 

[Loakum]

Dark Souls 2: Prepare to Rebuy Edition

Now this is about as perfect a Official Thread Title, as it gets!

 

[wonzo]

scamco gonna scamco

 

[FunkyMunkey]

Here's the Japanese press release: http://www.4gamer.net/games/196/G019662/20141125021/

Relevant footnotes:
※従来機版と新世代機版はそれぞれゲームサーバーが異なります。
※従来機版と新世代機版とのオンラインマッチングはできません。（PS3とPS4のマッチングはできません）
※従来機版から新世代機版へのセーブデータの引き継ぎはできません。
※Windows（DirectX.9対応）版からWindows（DirectX.11対応）版へのアップグレードはできません。

- Last-gen and new-gen versions use different game servers.
- Last-gen and new-gen versions are not compatible for online matchmaking. (PS3 to PS4 matchmaking is not supported)
- You cannot transfer save data from last-gen to new-gen.
- You cannot upgrade the Windows (DirectX9) version to the Windows (DirectX11) version.

In the press release they also specify very clearly that "last-gen" refers specifically to the PS3, 360, and DX9 versions, while "new-gen" refers to the PS4, XBO, and DX11 versions. No confusion.

LOL

So they downgrade the game at the last minute, use false-advertising (even on the steam store page) to get people to pick the game up, then announce a "remaster" and have the massive balls to sell that remaster for PC when there's no reason the first release should have ever been downgraded at all.

 

[intheinbetween]

it took so long but I knew this would happen.. PC version day 1

 

[Pooya]

oh, good then. I'll try their patch.

 

[Man]

You would think they would want to push this ahead of Bloodborne's March release as there's a generational leap in graphics dividing them (and the A team).

 

[Speevy]

The first sin was releasing this game as it was at launch. You don't need a scholar to figure that out.

 

[CountAntonius]

Yeah since they're clearly trying to sell the DX11 version as a totally new product on its own, that's the only goodwill option left.

This is bonkers. I don't know how many people will end up purchasing this but as it stand we barely hit 5k at highest concurrent users on steam. Throw in the stupid SM and it makes co op nearly non existent and now this?

God damnit Namco.

 

[J4g3r]

Dark Souls 2: Prepare to Rebuy Edition

 

[The Xtortionist]

You'd think so but even Alien was 30fps on consoles. I'd brace for 30fps.

I'd like to think "better performance" means we're getting more than a few more FPS on console.

 

[Valnen]

Dark Souls 2: Prepare to Rebuy Edition

Not if you were smart and didn't buy the paid beta in the first place!

 

[RonianAT2]

Are last gen consoles getting a retail release too or only the new free upgrade?

 

[MormaPope]

Not if you were smart and didn't buy the paid beta in the first place!

I don't think PC users were anticipating getting reamed where the sun don't shine. That's the userbase that's getting fucked.

Are last gen consoles getting a retail release too or only the new free upgrade?

This is also coming to last gen consoles via retail.

 

[Crimsonclaw111]

I'd like to think "better performance" means we're getting more than a few more FPS on console.

And I'd like to think Namco is worth trusting.

 

[epmode]

I don't think you could ask for better proof of a company's disdain for their fans than the way Namco's handling the PC release.

 

[Kagoshima_Luke]

This just makes me realize how much I want a Demon Souls remaster.

 

[vesvci]

Yes! I was MIA last generation for a while, so this will be my first crack at DS2 on the PS4.

Bloodborne and DS2:Remastered....can't wait!

 

[Auto-Reply]

I nearly felt bad for waiting so long with starting that game... now let's wait some more and see if this will even be an improvement on PC compared to the modded regular version!

 

[Jotamide]

This is fucking crazy.

Bamco, you're going to have to sell these people Dark Souls 3, don't shit on them.

Fuckwits.

Can't believe they're so shortsighted. By pulling this shit they're alienating the entire prospective buyers of the PC version of DS3.

 

[Soriku]

If the visual enhancements are free for PC users and the extra contentis priced as a dlc add on($15) I am okay with this.

From Bamco's tumble

Dark Souls II: Scholar of the First Sin will be launching in the Americas on April 7, 2015 on Xbox 360, Xbox One, PS3, PS4, and PC/Steam (DirectX 9/DirectX11)!

All versions of the game will include the following features (Existing Dark Souls II owners will receive a patch to implement these elements):

All 3 DLC packs included in the game (Crown of the Sunken King, Crown of the Old Iron King, Crown of the Ivory King).
Additional NPCs added for an enhanced story experience.
Parameter adjustments for improved game balance.
Augmented item descriptions.
Improved online matchmaking functionality.
Xbox One, PS4, and DirectX 11 versions of the game will include the following features (in addition to those listed above):

Additional upgrades to graphics, sound, performance.
Increase in maximum online players in single session (6 total).

Holy shit at 6 people total in game!

Wait, wait, wait.

So not only is the new content free of charge for last gen owners, the three previous DLCs are going to be free too?

Someone please confirm.

 

[prudislav]

I knew it and it was worth the wait ,now I will get the DX11 version ;-)

 

[-MD-]

I actually regret buying a PS4 more than I did before because now I don't want to spend a dime on Bloodborne.

What they're doing with the PC release is ridiculous, I hope people bitch loudly about it.

 

[burnfout]

Will rebuy day one.

dark souls 2 remote play oh yeahhhh!

 

[Laurentius]

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