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How is it possible that Telltale's engine is this awful

i understand that it's not going to look like uncharted or gears of war or something, but it should definitely run prefectly. it's absolutely silly. i mean, the wolf among us on ps4 can't even play the main credits without the video and audio skipping. the.fucking.credits.
 
I've heard scuttlebutt that the engine was made by the person in charge and he doesn't want anything else used.

I can believe that 100%.

I've worked at many companies that have steadfastly used in-house engines, and watched other engines pass them up. They then spend more and more time trying to keep it up to speed with the rest, and it gets uglier and uglier.

All to 'save the cost' of switching engines.
 

Bricky

Member
They're a C-tier studio, its not really that suprising.

Close. They used to be a C-tier studio, then they made The Walking Dead S1 and the rest is history.

Problem is, their engine is a shitty leftover from the days they still made low-budget Lucasarts IP spinoffs and they simply refuse to upgrade it much even though they really should.
 

Lord Error

Insane For Sony
I agree. It is hard to understand how they get such a pass. Their games BARELY run. Walking Dead Season 2 on PS4 was especially bad. How have they not fixed this by now?
Are you talking about the save status of Season 1 not importing in the European version? I think they've patched that, and the NA version didn't have the problem.
 
Playing TWD Season 1 was enough for me to not buy anything else they've released.

It's a new golden age of shitty framerates. Dragon Age: Inquisition and Alien: Isolation, the two games I wanted to play during the holidays, both turn into slideshows during cutscenes. The first one from experience, second one allegedly.

The Dragon Age thing is microstuttering, not frame drops. It holds 30 practically at all times.
 

DJ_Lae

Member
Their games have always been sort of janky. I chalk some of that up to the quick dev time for each game, but that doesn't entirely excuse it.

Borderlands seems to run okay on my Xbox One (I nabbed that $55 pack last week), as does Wolf Among Us. Game of Thrones bogs a bit, and all three have weird load hitches here and there where the game basically freezes for a couple of seconds between scene transitions (this seems to happen after you've finished a QTE).

It doesn't really affect the games themselves, though. It's not a horror-show like playing Telltale games on a PS3.
 

jett

D-Member
Their PC versions are solid at least, I haven't suffered any bugs or serious technical hiccups in their games.

Game of Thrones has some strange stuttering on my 280X though...that sure is something. They really need to ditch that engine, all I hear is complaints from console gamers. I figured at least the next-gen versions would run well, but seems like nope.
 

Tohsaka

Member
I played the first season of TWD on PS3, and it did indeed run like shit. I played season two of it and TWAU on PS4, though, and both performed fine.
 

Sanke__

Member
I new their games ran terribly on ps3 but this thread is making me very nervous to play them on ps4.

Edit: i guess post above me alleviates fears
 
Yeah, the games do run just awful. Starting an episode of TWD Season 2 on 360 basically makes my console chug until it's done attempting to load the "Previously, on The Walking Dead" segments and starts the actual episode.

I'm kind of stuck, though, as I want to keep my save/decisions.
 

MDSLKTR

Member
They're a C-tier studio, its not really that suprising.
Yet their games do quadruple A profits. Not touching a single game from them until they afford a new engine and new artists. Their borderlands game look nothing like borderlands how is this even possible??
 

Prototype

Member
Played season 1 of walking dead on ps3 and will never buy another one of their games. It was the most. Choppy mess I've ever played and OP is right, there isn't anything demanding going on. Pretty pathetic. Can't believe it won game of the year
 
I've heard scuttlebutt that the engine was made by the person in charge and he doesn't want anything else used.

The credits of their games seem to lend plausibility to this. Telltale's president is also their chief technology officer, and is always the first name in the short list of people responsible for the 'Telltale Tool'.
 

RoboPlato

I'd be in the dick
I like Telltale but they really need to put some projects on the back burner for a little while and get their tech together. It would probably help them get games out in a more timely manner as well.

Played season 1 of walking dead on ps3 and will never buy another one of their games. It was the most. Choppy mess I've ever played and OP is right, there isn't anything demanding going on. Pretty pathetic. Can't believe it won game of the year
Walking Dead ain't got shit on Poker Night on PS3. It's literally unplayable. Freezes after every hand and near single digit framerates.
 
I dont have too much of a problem with the way the games look but, holy-fucking-hell, the animation is janky as shit and yes, like others have said, it runs ridiculously poor considering how the game looks.
 

jim2011

Member
Their games are much more solid on xb1 than 360. I played got, tales from borderlands, walking dead season 1, and playing through season 2. Seems 60fps most of the time. Transitions/loading are still janky and it seems some of their animations are 30fps when the frame rate is 60. There is a weird judder due to that sometimes.
 

sujay

Member
played GoT on PS4 and had absolutely no problems with performance, even felt like it was running at 60 at times. even the load times are quick. huge difference from last-gen.
 

Arsenic13

Member
Try playing their games on mobiles and consoles. They all have technical issues, but those are often overlooked because their games are praised. An updated engine needs to happen. There's going to be fatigue in how their games feel and play
 

co1onel

Member
Played TWD season 1 on PC. Ran into save glitch, looked it up and learned its a gamebreaking glitch that the company still pretends to not exist. I lost any motivation to keep playing after that. Never buying another one of their games unless they fix their shit.
 
Telltale looks like a fun place to work....maybe that's part of the problem. I've played lots of Telltale games and the only problems I've experienced are on my Kindle Fire, which should be expected.

Actually, Hearthstone stutters and runs like such shit and all gold cards are black presumably because the device can't handle the animations. I'm not a coder but I don't understand how I was able to play TWD S:2 on my Kindle Fire with minimal aggrevation but Hearthstone which seems less graphic intensive runs like butt.
 

eshwaaz

Member
I refused to buy Wolf Among Us on 360 because it ran so poorly - appallingly bad. Their games are doing nothing technically impressive, yet performance is still trash.

Also - for games that rely entirely on narrative and characterizations, you'd think they'd get more criticism for their horrible animation, lip sync and facial expressions.
 
No matter how glitchy or how bad they run, I can't get enough of Telltale's games. Love every minute of them. GoT episode one on PS4 was fantastic.
 
I just finished The Wolf Among Us on my PC and I ran it at all settings highest AND at 4k resolution and it stayed a solid 60fps the whole way. It looks absolutely gorgeous, if I may say so. There was some stuttering at first due to texture loading but moving the game to my SSD totally fixed the issue.

Sounds like a console problem, especially with last-gen consoles.
 

The Boat

Member
Their games keep selling and receiving critical success and they keep getting hired to crank out game after game, so they just don't bother.
 

SerTapTap

Member
So do these games actually run well on PC or do they work sheerly out of brute force? Though it's pretty crazy if PS4/Xbone still have issues at 30 FPS. I want the Borderlands one when it's done but I dread the issues I may have when I get it. Definitely not getting on console.
 

Fbh

Member
It's the main reason I still only buy their games once I can get the whole season on sale for like $5.

They just run incredibly bad. The graphics are fine but the framerate can be terrible and most of their games have some really weird delays/freezes when changing scenes.

It was almost understanable when they were this small average developer that had just release a surprisingly awesome Walking Dead Game.

But now they are the type of developer that gets to work with franchises like Game of Thrones, Borderlands and Minecraft... at the same time. They should really invest in a new engine or at very least some people that actually know what they are doing

Sounds like a console problem, especially with last-gen consoles.

Their games look nice but in terms of technical requirements they should really be nothing compared to Dragon Age, Battlefield or GTA V which all run decently on current gen consoles.

So if they run well on PC but this badly on consoles, it just seems to be really bad porting. Mabye the team is just too small to port to Ps3,Ps4,X360,X1,iOS and Android simultaneously
 

Renzoku

Banned
One trick pony developer that keeps making money and has no motivation to improve upon anything they do. That's how.
 
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