Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
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Thats not what I mean. A 3d ticket costs more than a regular ticket and this was billed as the one movie you had to see in 3D. Its gross was inflated even compared to movies thay were running at the same time.
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"Have we forgotten about Avatar?"
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Thats not what I mean. A 3d ticket costs more than a regular ticket and this was billed as the one movie you had to see in 3D. Its gross was inflated even compared to movies thay were running at the same time.
You mean Last of the Mohicans II: Dances With Space Wolves in FernGully?
Once the CG and novelty of 3D was no longer bombarding your eyes it's pretty easy to forget one of the most trite and ethnocentric scripts released in years.
Thank you James Cameron for yet another film where white people need to acknowledge the value of the noble savages' culture and single-handedly save an entire group of people 'cause white people > said savages even to their own special god tree.
Once the CG and novelty of 3D was no longer bombarding your eyes it's pretty easy to forget one of the most trite and ethnocentric scripts released in years.
Thank you James Cameron for yet another film where white people need to acknowledge the value of the noble savages' culture and single-handedly save an entire group of people 'cause white people > said savages even to their own special god tree.
bengraven
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Maybe it was like half the audience, three times the price that made that much money.
That would make sense, though I think the audience count would show astronomical as well.I'm not sure how sarcastic your post is, but assuming the worst, you did read the article or what I posted earlier? People went to Titanic - it was a huge event. All of the biggest films on the top lists were events. Star Wars, Avengers, Pirates, all were huge events as well.
People had to have gone to Avatar, but it didn't feel like an event. I personally don't remember anyone going, I don't remember people saying "I HAVE TO GO TO THIS". But they obviously must have, because it did better than Titanic.
Robot Pants
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Ice burn. But true.
It looked great but wasn't very good. Completely forgettable for me.
I could have sworn that was just the guy being a smart ass. Like I can see the same guy going on a difficult hike and calling a Pandora mountain range, "Mount Sonuvabitch".. Fuck it, that's just how I choose to interpret that line.
Oh yeah, I forgot about them. The people who were more or less trans-Na'vi.
not_so_special
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critics will never learn with cameron
remember when critics said titanic gonna bomb? avatar?
remember when critics said titanic gonna bomb? avatar?
Rhomega Beta
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People were depressed about that? It's an environment deadly to humans up to and including the air they breathe.
Aside from the visuals, you're not missing anything.
DizzyCaffeine
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No sarcasm at all. I read your post and the article, yes, but I personally have no love for Titanic either. My comment is simply that - Cameron knows how to get people to show up at the theater. It's really impressive, actually.
Jack Scofield
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Aren't they making a theme park or something?
Mr. Poolman
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Oh this is true. Wasn't there a famous quote here on GAF before Avatar came out how it was only going to make something like 200 million at the most?
I'm sure the sequels will make bank. People underestimate Cameron so much. Yes, there are valid critiques to his storytelling, but what he churns out seemingly is enough to satisfy what is needed.
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
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http://boxofficemojo.com/alltime/adjusted.htm?adjust_yr=1&p=.htm
Based on projected ticket sales its 14th
Based on projected ticket sales its 14th
Delta Assault
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District 9 deserved to be the 2009 alien empathy/giant robot film to remember. And so it was.
Tal Shiar Agent
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I've never seen it because I was pissed that their use of the word 'Avatar' forced Nick to drop the name from the Avatar franchise in the US. Also, I heard it was just a sci-fi remake of Disney's Pocahontas.
not_so_special
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cameron haters will never learn...i assure you when avatar 2 comes on december that year he will bring ases to seats again
and peole who said..avatar as been forgotten...good lord..thats pure denial
Lumpy Onion
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I forgot about Avatar a couple hours after watching it. It was cool, but kinda forgettable as a movie. I had a much better experience with Prometheus which I also saw in IMAX 3D.
CloudyTuba
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The 3D was the best I've ever seen. The story was boring and forgettable.
I am not excited about the universe at all in any way and there isn't much to talk about. I went on the ride and it was fun but the tech demo is over now so I no longer give a shit. Dont even care to see Avatar 2.
I am not excited about the universe at all in any way and there isn't much to talk about. I went on the ride and it was fun but the tech demo is over now so I no longer give a shit. Dont even care to see Avatar 2.
Rabbit Lord
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I gave up about half way through the movie.
ZehDon
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Great article. I think a lot of the problem with its lack of pop-culture status is how alien the world of 'Avatar' is compared to our own. It's hard to relate to it, or see part of it in our world, and so we don't remember it. The issues with the film are, of course, a factor, but the sheer number of people who saw 'Avatar' means it should have left behind... something. 'The Matrix' was seen by less people, and yet it had a massive pop-culture impact (until the sequels) because it was a well made film that was very easy to relate to. I think by the time the sequel rolls around, the marketing campaign will kick in, and everyone will remember 'Avatar'.
Do you deny that no one talks about the movie anymore? No one ever quotes it? No merchandise ever took off? No kids got into Avatar toys? None of the "legacy" elements that big iconic movies have ever happened for Avatar after its reign at the box-office.
MDSLKTR
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No need, box office numbers will take care of that
John Kowalski
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Didn't Korra end like less than a week ago? People have forgotten about already? But now that i think about it, i didn't hear anyone scream and shout about korrasami today... maybe it's true after all.
AstroNut325
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I haven't forgot. I love the movie. I have the 3D Blu-Ray. I try to rewatch that once a year.
They're has been a grand total of one Avatar film so far. The 2, and 3 have not been released yet. You are comparing franchises that are in a constant movie making process, to one that is still developing.
Freddy=Legend
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It's been on TV a lot lately, so I don't think it's that forgotten. Plus, I'm sure the theme park that's opening will do wonders for people's memories.
But even if it is being forgotten, it's still far more remembered than the film that beat it for Best Picture. I don't think I've heard a single person even mention The Hurt Locker since it's release.
But even if it is being forgotten, it's still far more remembered than the film that beat it for Best Picture. I don't think I've heard a single person even mention The Hurt Locker since it's release.
JumpJeff84
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Is there a single line in this movie that could be considered quoteworthy? I'm not being flip, just honestly curious.
not_so_special
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people remember avatar..just normal people..fandom and geeks? maybe not their cup of tea..but people? man even my granma knows what avatar is
Freddy=Legend
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Col. Quaritch has a few good lines that could be funny in the right situations.
His "I'm getting all emotional, might just give you a big wet kiss" line is especially funny if you have a good set up for it.
Lord Error
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Generally, a very good way to judge if the movie is actually any good, or if it's just relying on bombarding you with the visuals in an attempt to hide how bad it is. This is how I realized how terribad the Hobbit movies are.
vagabondarts
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I have a quotable line from Avatar. I use it in certain situations.
"This low gravity will make you soft. If you get soft, Pandora will eat you alive!"
The lack of merchandising momentum made the Disneyworld Pandora land choice a puzzling one to me.
"This low gravity will make you soft. If you get soft, Pandora will eat you alive!"
The lack of merchandising momentum made the Disneyworld Pandora land choice a puzzling one to me.
Sectorseven
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We never see any gifs from it. That's the real metric of success.
Avatar's success is crazy to me. Even compared to Cameron's other success it feels hollow. Titanic was a big fucking deal. It was an event. People quoted it for years afterwards. There were parodies. People talked about it. It seemed like a big fucking thing.
Avatar was just another movie. I've never known someone excited about it. It didn't feel like a big thing when it came out. I mean I guess I knew people who saw it, but no one really talked about it afterwards. It wasn't really recommended by anyone. There was no merchandise, no parodies, no quoting of it. Nothing. I honestly have no idea how it got so successful. A lot of those big movies are at least mentioned around me once in a while. The only times I've heard Avatar mentioned since release is pretty much here... with people asking why it's been forgotten... or wondering how the hell they're doing so many sequels.
Avatar was just another movie. I've never known someone excited about it. It didn't feel like a big thing when it came out. I mean I guess I knew people who saw it, but no one really talked about it afterwards. It wasn't really recommended by anyone. There was no merchandise, no parodies, no quoting of it. Nothing. I honestly have no idea how it got so successful. A lot of those big movies are at least mentioned around me once in a while. The only times I've heard Avatar mentioned since release is pretty much here... with people asking why it's been forgotten... or wondering how the hell they're doing so many sequels.
Fancy Clown
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It's because it was totally forgettable. Everything about it was a re-hash of other stories. The world wasn't interesting. The characters weren't interesting. The plot wasn't interesting. The art design wasn't interesting.
The only thing notable about Avatar is its contribution to CGI and 3D.
The only thing notable about Avatar is its contribution to CGI and 3D.
TacticalFox88
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I still don't get what Cameron is gonna do with the sequels without it becoming boring.
The universe was really set up for one movie, MAYBE two in an Empire Strikes Back type deal with the humans,
But SIX?
Come on, son.
The universe was really set up for one movie, MAYBE two in an Empire Strikes Back type deal with the humans,
But SIX?
Come on, son.
The article doesn't really mean forgotten as in 'no one remembers the movie even came out', but forgotten in the sense that no one ever talks about it and that it seems to have made no impact at all. Of course a lot of people know about the existence of Avatar; it was one of the most talked about movies of 2009, but if you look at the significance of the movie and whether people actually give a damn about Avatar, you'd see that the movie left no impact at all. The only thing the movie really did was prove to people that 3D didn't always have to be obnoxious.
Lucky for Cameron he doesn't have to rely on story to sell the sequel. I'm sure he'll figure out a new, good-looking effect that will have people running to the cinemas to see and afterwards forget Avatar 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6.
I still watch it from time to time. Some people feel it's the disillusioned college grads dream:
go to another planet
join another culture
become dudebro warrior
Become dudebro warrior with pet dragon and alien wife.
When does JC start shooting the sequels?
go to another planet
join another culture
become dudebro warrior
smang an alien princess
betray your home planet
Win a war
When does JC start shooting the sequels?
it's been half a decade since it came out... if Avatar 2 came out in 2011 or something i'm sure it'd still be culturally ubiquitous
but yeah, we pretty much have moved on. the sequels probably have an uphill battle regardless of how good they are, if they are meant to make as big an impact
but yeah, we pretty much have moved on. the sequels probably have an uphill battle regardless of how good they are, if they are meant to make as big an impact
Yup. People don't realize that things don't tend to just stick around just "because". If they wanted to market this as some mega brand they would've done just that. Spinoff shows. Probably some insane broadway bullshit etc etc. You only forgot about it because he let you.
You'll be graped with it incessantly soon enough. Then you'll beg him to stop.
Shining Sunshine
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I never even watched it.
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