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I think this year will be a great year for gamers
Especially Sony will let fall the bombs
Imagine the following games each studios
Media molecule
Guerilla Games with Horizon
The last Guardian - Yeah I'll never stop to dreaming
Sony Bends Horror Game
Quantic Dream
But I doubt those games will come out this year :( I say 2016 at best.

Also, I have a feeling that the new God of War will be actually released in 2016. 3 year in development is more than enough for a AAA game imo :(
 
Umm people are still arguing to this day that it isn't. It's literally brought up ad infinitum in every single Bloodborne thread despite being proven exclusive over and over and over.

Is that really still being debated?!

I think this year will be a great year for gamers
Especially Sony will let fall the bombs
Imagine the following games each studios
Media molecule
Guerilla Games with Horizon
The last Guardian - Yeah I'll never stop to dreaming
Sony Bends Horror Game
Quantic Dream

Honestly, I don't think any of those will be out this year (assuming we're talking not about Tearaway Unfolded, but rather Mm's next project). They might be revealed though, which would make for a pretty damn amazing E3 and/or PSX event though.
 
Isn't this SSM's new logo?

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Shabad

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I think this year will be a great year for gamers
Especially Sony will let fall the bombs
Imagine the following games each studios
Media molecule
Guerilla Games with Horizon
The last Guardian - Yeah I'll never stop to dreaming
Sony Bends Horror Game
Quantic Dream

Technically, The Last Guardian could have been in development since SotC released about 10 years ago, but it's quite unclear when (and if) development started on PS4... Media Molecule is supposed to be working on that new project since Little Big Planet 2 released 4 years ago (Tearaway was a small side project). Guerilla Games announced that they were working on a new IP in 2011, i.e 4 years ago. Bend Studios switched to PS4 at least 2 years ago if we believe the latest rumor. Quantic Dream's new project was in pre-production back when Beyond released, 18 month ago.

I believe Quantic Dream will communicate on the inevitable Beyond remaster before we see anything on their new project. And if indeed Bend has been working on a new IP for two years, we may have to wait a bit longer before we hear about that too (new IP takes time, switching from portable to home console isn't that easy, ...). And of course, The Last Guardian is a big unknown, they could be polishing the game as we speak just like they could decide on giving up this whole mess... In any case, I expect it to release right after its hypothetical re-reveal.

Mm and GG's games should be unveiled this year though, and I would also put a few bucks on Guerilla Cambridge's new project and Gravity Rush PS4.
 

Turkoop

Banned
Is that really still being debated?!



Honestly, I don't think any of those will be out this year (assuming we're talking not about Tearaway Unfolded, but rather Mm's next project). They might be revealed though, which would make for a pretty damn amazing E3 and/or PSX event though.

Sorry, forgot to say that these games will be revealed this year and not releases
 
Mm and GG's games should be unveiled this year though, and I would also put a few bucks on Guerilla Cambridge's new project and Gravity Rush PS4.

I think the reveal of Mm's new game is entirely dependant on when Tearaway Unfolded releases. There's no point in revealing their next project before TU has even released, as they're potentially overshadow themselves. However, TU is likely to be released before the end of the year so I suspect their next game will be revealed at PSX '15.

I think Gravity Rush 2 on PS4 is a dead cert for this year, and I'd really like to know what Guerrilla Cambridge are up to next. Although artistically and stylistically they're a really creative studio, KZM was mechanically by far their best game ever, so I'm excited to see another game from them, whether it's the next Killzone or something different.
 

Turkoop

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I think the reveal of Mm's new game is entirely dependant on when Tearaway Unfolded releases. There's no point in revealing their next project before TU has even released, as they're potentially overshadow themselves. However, TU is likely to be released before the end of the year so I suspect their next game will be revealed at PSX '15.

I think Gravity Rush 2 on PS4 is a dead cert for this year, and I'd really like to know what Guerrilla Cambridge are up to next. Although artistically and stylistically they're a really creative studio, KZM was mechanically by far their best game ever, so I'm excited to see another game from them, whether it's the next Killzone or something different.

MM already announced to reveal his game this year
 

Luke_Wal

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Technically, The Last Guardian could have been in development since SotC released about 10 years ago, but it's quite unclear when (and if) development started on PS4... Media Molecule is supposed to be working on that new project since Little Big Planet 2 released 4 years ago (Tearaway was a small side project). Guerilla Games announced that they were working on a new IP in 2011, i.e 4 years ago. Bend Studios switched to PS4 at least 2 years ago if we believe the latest rumor. Quantic Dream's new project was in pre-production back when Beyond released, 18 month ago.

I believe Quantic Dream will communicate on the inevitable Beyond remaster before we see anything on their new project. And if indeed Bend has been working on a new IP for two years, we may have to wait a bit longer before we hear about that too (new IP takes time, switching from portable to home console isn't that easy, ...). And of course, The Last Guardian is a big unknown, they could be polishing the game as we speak just like they could decide on giving up this whole mess... In any case, I expect it to release right after its hypothetical re-reveal.

Mm and GG's games should be unveiled this year though, and I would also put a few bucks on Guerilla Cambridge's new project and Gravity Rush PS4.

Yeah, I think there's a pretty good chance we see GG's game this year, and we're confirmed to see MM's this year. I REALLY hope GG's game hits this year; it would be great to have another AAA exclusive this fall, and with how long they've been working on it, it doesn't seem out of the question to me. E3 unveil, November release has been done before. Wishful thinking, I know, but I WANT MY ROBOT DINOSAURS DANGIT
 
Yeah, I think there's a pretty good chance we see GG's game this year, and we're confirmed to see MM's this year. I REALLY hope GG's game hits this year; it would be great to have another AAA exclusive this fall, and with how long they've been working on it, it doesn't seem out of the question to me. E3 unveil, November release has been done before. Wishful thinking, I know, but I WANT MY ROBOT DINOSAURS DANGIT

I'll go ahead and guess that it's out of the question. They've already got a ton of games coming out this year, they really don't need yet another big AAA game. Horizon will be much better suited for 2016. Even if it were already finished this year, I'd delay it to Feb/March anyway, just to space things out a bit more (which is exactly what Sony did with Killzone 2 back in 2008/09).
 

Wabba

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Next year is going to be completely crazy in terms of games for Sony.

Start of next year: The Order 1886, Planetside 2, Deep Down, The Tomorrow Children and Bloodborne.
Middle: Until Dawn, Everybody's going to Rapture, No Mans Sky and Rime.
Fall: Uncharted 4: A Thiefs End, Fat Princess: Adventure, Wild, Street Fighter V.

And then you have Gran Truismo 7, Sony Bends, San Diego, Media Molecule, Guerrilla and maybe The Last Guardian. And that is just exclusives.
 

Jigolo

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"Working on a project" x amount of years ago could just mean in the concept stages. It's not like they've been in full production for 4-5 years.
 

benny_a

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I'll go ahead and guess that it's out of the question. They've already got a ton of games coming out this year, they really don't need yet another big AAA game. Horizon will be much better suited for 2016. Even if it were already finished this year, I'd delay it to Feb/March anyway, just to space things out a bit more (which is exactly what Sony did with Killzone 2 back in 2008/09).
According to their SIGGRAPH talk they finished Killzone 3 in October (moved their production staff away from that) and only released the game in February.

Maybe you meant that or maybe they have a history of that?
 
Next year is going to be completely crazy in terms of games for Sony.

Start of next year: The Order 1886, Planetside 2, Deep Down, The Tomorrow Children and Bloodborne.
Middle: Until Dawn, Everybody's going to Rapture, No Mans Sky and Rime.
Fall: Uncharted 4: A Thiefs End, Fat Princess: Adventure, Wild, Street Fighter V.

And then you have Gran Truismo 7, Sony Bends, San Diego, Media Molecule, Guerrilla and maybe The Last Guardian. And that is just exclusives.

Doesn't Tearaway hit in the " spring " window?

And I would think No Mans Sky is planned to be a major holiday title, not middle of the year type thing. Its a highly anticipated one with a ton of ambition. I think Murray and Hello would love as much time as possible to finish and really nail the gameplay. So my guess would be the holiday season. So Sony will have a ton of ammunition for the holiday season 2015 to work with.

Also, forget WiLD having any chance for 2015 lol. Creator has already said its pretty early in development. I would say most likely holiday 2016 or something like that for that one.
 
Next year is going to be completely crazy in terms of games for Sony.

Start of next year: The Order 1886, Planetside 2, Deep Down, The Tomorrow Children and Bloodborne.
Middle: Until Dawn, Everybody's going to Rapture, No Mans Sky and Rime.
Fall: Uncharted 4: A Thiefs End, Fat Princess: Adventure, Wild, Street Fighter V.

And then you have Gran Truismo 7, Sony Bends, San Diego, Media Molecule, Guerrilla and maybe The Last Guardian. And that is just exclusives.
What I am getting next year out of that list.
 

Huddy

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I'm really hoping Gravity Rush 2 makes it to PS4 this year along with a bonus remaster of GR1 included on the disk.

If Sony what to move the series to home consoles it would make sense to release the original, in my head at least.
 
Isn't this SSM's new logo?

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Yes, but the OP hates the prevalence of Cory Schmitz design work, so he used the old one purely to spite him.

I kiiiidd, Cory Schmitz is cool

Next year is going to be completely crazy in terms of games for Sony.

Start of next year: The Order 1886, Planetside 2, Deep Down, The Tomorrow Children and Bloodborne.
Middle: Until Dawn, Everybody's going to Rapture, No Mans Sky and Rime.
Fall: Uncharted 4: A Thiefs End, Fat Princess: Adventure, Wild, Street Fighter V.

And then you have Gran Truismo 7, Sony Bends, San Diego, Media Molecule, Guerrilla and maybe The Last Guardian. And that is just exclusives.

Good luck with WILD coming this year, and NMS could slip I reckon. Also... I thought Ratchet and Clank was slated for this year.
 
Next year is going to be completely crazy in terms of games for Sony.

Start of next year: The Order 1886, Planetside 2, Deep Down, The Tomorrow Children and Bloodborne.
Middle: Until Dawn, Everybody's going to Rapture, No Mans Sky and Rime.
Fall: Uncharted 4: A Thiefs End, Fat Princess: Adventure, Wild, Street Fighter V.

And then you have Gran Truismo 7, Sony Bends, San Diego, Media Molecule, Guerrilla and maybe The Last Guardian. And that is just exclusives.

You mean this year right? Also I think SFV will be a spring 2016 game.
 

eFKac

Member
I'll go ahead and guess that it's out of the question. They've already got a ton of games coming out this year, they really don't need yet another big AAA game. Horizon will be much better suited for 2016. Even if it were already finished this year, I'd delay it to Feb/March anyway, just to space things out a bit more (which is exactly what Sony did with Killzone 2 back in 2008/09).

Yet another? From the currently announced they have only 3 throughout the year (wouldn't count Until Dawn as aaa, No Man's Sky is problematic and arguable) and only one for the Holidays. That's hardly overkill, especially for Q4.
You want to see a stacked year for Playstation, check 2011 or 2013, as it stands 2015 has nothing on them (well, more mid tier games)
 
Yet another? From the currently announced they have only 3 throughout the year (wouldn't count Until Dawn as aaa, No Man's Sky is problematic and arguable) and only one for the Holidays. That's hardly overkill, especially for Q4.
You want to see a stacked year for Playstation, check 2011 or 2013, as it stands 2015 has nothing on them (well, more mid tier games)

Bloodborne, Until Dawn, Uncharted, Ratchet and Clank, Hot Shots Golf, MLB 2015, The Order, Planetside 2, Deep Down

Where in the world you coming up with 3 AAA's? Thats ... lol.
Why wouldn't you count Until Dawn as AAA? Thats dumb. Game has been in development forever, high budget title, looks great and made by a largish studio. What more do you need?

No Mans Sky is an indie title with a AAA look and ambition.
 

eFKac

Member
Bloodborne, Until Dawn, Uncharted, Ratchet and Clank, Hot Shots Golf, MLB 2015, The Order, Planetside 2, Deep Down

Where in the world you coming up with 3 AAA's? Thats ... lol.
Why wouldn't you count Until Dawn as AAA? Thats dumb. Game has been in development forever, high budget title, looks great and made by a largish studio. What more do you need?

No Mans Sky is an indie title with a AAA look and ambition.

Lol you're an optimistic one.

Hot Shots Golf is not coming in 2015 neither it will be AAA, Deep Down most probably neither.
Planetside 2 is a port of a F2P game, hardly AAA.
MLB is a niche sports game for one market.

Have you seen Supermassive's previous games? That's a mid tier studio, not largish whatever that means. Sure it's their biggest game yet and got a budget bigger than when it was a Move game but let's wait and see. Whether it looks great or not has nothing to do with it.

I'll give you Ratchet and Clank which I forgot about, and has potential to be AAA, but the franchise is definitely not as important as it once was so i remains to be seen.
 
Lol you're an optimistic one.

Hot Shots Golf is not coming in 2015 neither it will be AAA, Deep Down most probably neither.
Planetside 2 is a port of a F2P game, hardly AAA.
MLB is a niche sports game for one market.

Have you seen Supermassive's previous games? That's a mid tier studio, not largish whatever that means. Sure it's their biggest game yet and got a budget bigger than when it was a Move game but let's wait and see. Whether it looks great or not has nothing to do with it.

I'll give you Ratchet and Clank which I forgot about, and has potential to be AAA, but the franchise is definitely not as important as it once was so i remains to be seen.

All credibility of your opinion went straight out the window when you stated Planetside 2 was not AAA. If that game is not AAA, there isn't much that is anymore. And MLB is niche? Who gives a shit? What does that have to do with anything?
 

eFKac

Member
Its hard to define a made up term. I'm just guessing he is going by budget size or ... I dunno, graphix? Team size? Ambition? Who knows.

It would all be dismissed anyway

You're right, at least 10 AAA games from Sony next year with Rime at the helm, hype!

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eFKac

Member
You know a better way we could have had a decent conversation?

One where you didn't put words in other people's mouths.

Ohh he called 9, not 10, sorry.

I could also imagine a better conversation when someone argues something instead of going, your opinion sucks, Planetside 2 is AAA cause it's AAA, and no point in arguing cause you'll dismiss it anyway. But I see that you took a side already.
 

coolasj19

Why are you reading my tag instead of the title of my post?
You're right, at least 10 AAA games from Sony next year with Rime at the helm, hype!
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You're not gonna last long here if you default to sarcasm in the face of [I]potentially[/I] being wrong. The most elegant way to eject from a conversation is to just stop responding.
 

KAL2006

Banned
Retail exclusives

2015
The Order 1886
BloodBorne
Tearaway Unfolded
Until Dawn
Uncharted 4
Heavy Rain and Beyond Remastered
Ratchet and Clank

2016
Street Fighter V
Horizon (Guerilla Games New IP)
Uncharted Collection Remastered
Gran Turismo 7
Sly 5
God of War III and Ascention Remastered
The Last Guardian

Morpheus Fall 2016 launch line up
Sony London Game
Zindagi game
Hot Shots Golf
Media Molecule New IP

2017
God of War 4
inFamous Third Son
Quantic Dreams New IP
The Last of Us 2
Motorstorm
Crash Bandicoot
 
Ohh he called 9, not 10, sorry.

I could also imagine a better conversation when someone argues something instead of going, your opinion sucks, Planetside 2 is AAA cause it's AAA, and no point in arguing cause you'll dismiss it anyway. But I see that you took a side already.

If you bothered to look at my post history, I largely never partake in such debates, because by and large, it's very opinionated, despite how much objectivity one tries to put into the definitions of such titles.

Do we draw the line at $60 as a rule for it being AAA? Do we discount games made by small teams? If that's the case, where do we draw the line since Titanfall is also made by a small team? Marketing hype? Push? Mainstream vs Niche? Does Tearaway not count as AAA because 'retelling?' What if a big game is suddenly cheaper? What if it's a niche content? What if a less impressive game that is mainstream, etc, etc, etc. Ratchet potentially doesn't count even though it's made by a AAA team because 'reasons.'

When you get down to semantics of that level, it's pointless to talk about it because rather than debating what AAA is, it comes down towards individual perception of what is bigger than the other. I'm saying this on both sides, not just towards you.

It's a pity that you saw my post as 'taking sides.' But whatever.
 
Next year is going to be completely crazy in terms of games for Sony.

Start of next year: The Order 1886, Planetside 2, Deep Down, The Tomorrow Children and Bloodborne.
Middle: Until Dawn, Everybody's going to Rapture, No Mans Sky and Rime.
Fall: Uncharted 4: A Thiefs End, Fat Princess: Adventure, Wild, Street Fighter V.

And then you have Gran Truismo 7, Sony Bends, San Diego, Media Molecule, Guerrilla and maybe The Last Guardian. And that is just exclusives.

All of that is coming this year. We are firmly into 2015 right now.
 

eFKac

Member
You're not gonna last long here if you default to sarcasm in the face of being wrong. The most elegant way to eject from a conversation is to just stop responding.

Thank you for the warning.

Thing is I'm not necessarily wrong, as those things are at the very least arguable. But I won't respond in other way when someone is unnecessarily agressive.
 
Retail exclusives

2015
The Order 1886
BloodBorne
Tearaway Unfolded
Until Dawn
Uncharted 4
Heavy Rain and Beyond Remastered
Ratchet and Clank

2016
Street Fighter V
Horizon (Guerilla Games New IP)
Uncharted Collection Remastered
Gran Turismo 7
Sly 5
God of War III and Ascention Remastered
The Last Guardian

Morpheus Fall 2016 launch line up
Sony London Game
Zindagi game
Hot Shots Golf
Media Molecule New IP

2017
God of War 4
inFamous Third Son
Quantic Dreams New IP
The Last of Us 2
Motorstorm
Crash Bandicoot

Given how early on in 2014 Second Son landed, you could almost expect their next game to release fall 2016. Still giving them 2.5 years.
 

eFKac

Member
If you bothered to look at my post history, I largely never partake in such debates, because by and large, it's very opinionated, despite how much objectivity one tries to put into the definitions of such titles.

Do we draw the line at $60 as a rule for it being AAA? Do we discount games made by small teams? If that's the case, where do we draw the line since Titanfall is also made by a small team? Marketing hype? Push? Mainstream vs Niche? Does Tearaway not count as AAA because 'retelling?' What if a big game is suddenly cheaper? What if it's a niche content? What if a less impressive game that is mainstream, etc, etc, etc. Ratchet potentially doesn't count even though it's made by a AAA team because 'reasons.'

When you get down to semantics of that level, it's pointless to talk about it. I'm saying this on both sides, not just towards you.

It's a pity that you saw my post as 'taking sides.' But whatever.

Why is it pointless to talk about it? Those things are exactly what I would want to argue about and state where I draw the line. I could argue about it with you, not with IamRandom it seems.
 
Thank you for the warning.

Thing is I'm not necessarily wrong, as those things are at the very least arguable. But I won't respond in other way when someone is unnecessarily agressive.

Some things yes, some things, no.

Debating the release window of certain games, sure. Questioning the validity of an unreleased game's quality/content threshold to be considered AAA (Until Dawn), sure.

But the importance of a franchise has nothing to do with whether or not it qualifies as AAA. (Ratchet perspective)

If tomorrow EA releases a Medal of Honor game, it's still a AAA release, even though the IP is pretty much turd these days.
 
Retail exclusives

2015
The Order 1886
BloodBorne
Tearaway Unfolded
Until Dawn
Uncharted 4
Heavy Rain and Beyond Remastered
Ratchet and Clank

2016
Street Fighter V
Horizon (Guerilla Games New IP)
Uncharted Collection Remastered
Gran Turismo 7
Sly 5
God of War III and Ascention Remastered
The Last Guardian

Morpheus Fall 2016 launch line up
Sony London Game
Zindagi game
Hot Shots Golf
Media Molecule New IP

2017
God of War 4
inFamous Third Son
Quantic Dreams New IP
The Last of Us 2
Motorstorm
Crash Bandicoot

There's the Sony Bend game as well (late 2017, early 2017 would be my guess).
 
Why is it pointless to talk about it? Those things are exactly what I would want to argue about and state where I draw the line. I could argue about it with you, not with IamRandom it seems.

If that's what you like to discuss, then by all means. I was offering a suggestion.

As for your invitation, I'll refrain. Like I said, I don't care for such discussion, and I'd keep my internally definition of what matters to me with me.
 

David___

Banned
I'll go ahead and guess that it's out of the question. They've already got a ton of games coming out this year, they really don't need yet another big AAA game. Horizon will be much better suited for 2016. Even if it were already finished this year, I'd delay it to Feb/March anyway, just to space things out a bit more (which is exactly what Sony did with Killzone 2 back in 2008/09).

Pretty sure shinobi already said it won't make 2015 earlier when he was talking about it
 

Auctopus

Member
The closer It gets to the summer, the more likely I think it is that the R&C remake has either a) been put on the backburner or b) isn't that much of a remake.
 

eFKac

Member
Some things yes, some things, no.

Debating the release window of certain games, sure. Questioning the validity of an unreleased game's quality/content threshold to be considered AAA (Until Dawn), sure.

But the importance of a franchise has nothing to do with whether or not it qualifies as AAA. (Ratchet perspective)

If tomorrow EA releases a Medal of Honor game, it's still a AAA release, even though the IP is pretty much turd these days.

Well I say it is absolutely up for debate, cause we didn't see the game yet.
Importance of the franchise is a valid reason, why? Because we had 3 last games in the franchise that were not AAA. (unless you want to argue that FFA was AAA).
Before we see the game, there's no telling. The game is most likely developed by the North Carolina team, not the bigger Burbank team.
What if the "reimagining" is not much more than a more elaborate remaster of the first game, launched as a 40$ digital download only (there hasn't been any confirmation unless I missed something) in the vein of Into the Nexus?

Going by a budget principle, of course a Medal of Honor game could not be AAA, was MEdal of Honor Frontline HD a AAA release?
 

benny_a

extra source of jiggaflops
If that's what you like to discuss, then by all means. I was offering a suggestion.

As for your invitation, I'll refrain. Like I said, I don't care for such discussion, and I'd keep my internally definition of what matters to me with me.
And I want to make one thing crystal clear: Your internal definition that matters to you is wrong.

BOOM
 
The closer It gets to the summer, the more likely I think it is that the R&C remake has either a) been put on the backburner or b) isn't that much of a remake.

We know only one of Sony's games for the fall. I reckon it will be Uncharted and R&C.

Even last year, a super weak year they managed two during the fall, so yeah. I imagine we'll see it very soon. Maybe March? Maybe even E3?
 
Why is it pointless to talk about it? Those things are exactly what I would want to argue about and state where I draw the line. I could argue about it with you, not with IamRandom it seems.

What are we arguing though. It is a semantic argument with goalposts that change from person to person. To one person, a game can't be AAA if the graphics don't hit a certain level. A game can't be AAA if a team isn't large enough. A game can't be AAA if the budget doesn't hit a certain point. Or the studio isn't famous enough. Or the visual style isn't current enough.

Too many variables, too many ways for someone to just move the goalpost to continue to feed into their point of view on the subject. Like to you, anything that says F2P can't be AAA. So games like Planetside are eliminated. Now for me, knowing Planetside 2 is one of the largest FPS games out there today, puts it firmly in the AAA realm. I mean 2000 players on the same map at the same time together, battling over zones of control inside space craft, tanks, jeeps, in mechs, etc. is amazing.

And then you say Hot Shots Golf can't be AAA. Why? Because of the visual style? It is a Japan Studio ( AAA studio yes? ) project and one of the Playstations longest running and most popular sports franchises. And then MLB is again dismissed because its a niche sport. So now we are into an area where a sport has to be popular for the game being made about that sport to be considered AAA.

So yeh ... its one of those things.
 
How are people making these list and development quality without knowing?

Coming Soon:
The Order 1886 (AAA Development & Graphics)
Bloodborne (AAA Development & Graphics)

Spring/Summer:
Planetside 2 (SOE AAA Development & Graphics)
MLB 15 (AAA Development)
Tearaway Unfolded (AAA Development)
Ratchet & Clank Redux (AAA Development)
Until Dawn (AA Development)

Holiday:
Uncharted 4 (AAA Development & Graphics)
GT7 Prologue (AAA Development & Graphics)
 
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