Leafhopper
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Wait, was that really the reason? I may have forgot but I thought it was just something he just stopped talking about.
I almost did but half way through it I was like "Yeah no."
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The God who Peter Molyneux forgot - Curiosity winner Bryan Henderson
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Wait, was that really the reason? I may have forgot but I thought it was just something he just stopped talking about.
I almost did but half way through it I was like "Yeah no."
radioactivez0r
Member
The article states he did sign a contract of some kind, but of course can't disclose anything about it (i assume because it would constitute a breach), which is funny considering thus far it doesn't seem to have accomplished anything.
This article is written in a sort of manipulative way, I think, but I like that it's detailed.
Wait, really? How was this found out? Is there any proof?
Holy shit that's awful.
It was pretty much at this point in time where I realized that he wasn't deluding himself as much as he was outright, consciously fabricating to market lies to stupid people.
I just rewatched this video out of curiosity again.
Molyneux actually sais 'this wasn' acted' in it, after the woman 'catches' something Milo throws at her.
Might have been the exact moment Molyneux turned from a respected developer whose claims didn't always came trough, but still delivered something, to the joke he is today
Triggerhappytel
Member
He must be pretty wealthy, yeah. He sold Bullfrog to EA years ago, then set up Lionhead which was sold to Microsoft and I believe he became the boss of Microsoft Game Studios Europe, although he didn't seem to do anything at a higher level and just focused on Fable. Then after leaving Lionhead he invested money in setting up 22cans, and I don't imagine either Godus or Curiosity made a lot of money so most of the funds probably had to come out of 22can's pockets. In saying this, I'm assuming the Kickstarter money would not have been enough to fund Godus in full.
Triggerhappytel
Member
Yeah, they always maintained that Milo wasn't staged, but the stuff they showed in that video is pretty much impossible. In particular the bit when she hands him a bit of paper always gets me, and Molyneux claims that Kinect is able to scan what she's holding and immediately render it on screen. Such steaming horseshit.
Not really. Molyneux has said in the most diplomatic way that Milo was a product that couldn't be sold in today's market, and that it couldn't be sold to Microsoft as a publisher. So they chose to spend development time on projects that actually have a viable business model.
http://www.polygon.com/features/2013/3/21/4063508/milo-and-kate
"The problem with Milo wasn't the ambition," he said. "It wasnt the ambition, it wasn't the technology; it was none of that. I just don't think that this industry was ready for something as emotionally connecting as something like Milo. The real problem with Milo was and this is a problem we had lots of meetings over where it would be on the shelves next to all the computer games. It was just the wrong thing. ... It was the wrong concept for what this industry currently is. Maybe this industry one day won't be like that, but at this particular time, having a game that celebrates the joy of inspiring something and you feel this connection, this bond; it was the wrong time for that."
If this is really true, I'd imagine Molyneux would face serious legal ramifications for the digital sale of the microtransactions in the game.
Deified Data
Banned
Still can't decide if Molyneux's possessed of a charming, childlike naiveté about how the industry works and an inability to accurately assess the viability of his lofty goals or if he's just a cynical con man.
They haven't even implemented the aspect of the game that he was entitled to revenue from. No need to get creative.
And I'm sure it's 1% of profit, it always is.
Because I was't really interested, I hadn't bothered to find out any details regarding Godus before, but the article mentions that you have to purchase in-game money using real money?
Really? WTF. Why would anyone with half a brain play a game like that? Micro-transactions are deeply immoral, and people creating such games should be ashamed, for they are the scourge of the video game industry.
Really? WTF. Why would anyone with half a brain play a game like that? Micro-transactions are deeply immoral, and people creating such games should be ashamed, for they are the scourge of the video game industry.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=466542
"“The problem with Milo wasn’t the ambition,” said Molyneux, speaking earlier this month in San Francisco. “It wasn’t the ambition or the technology; it was none of that. I just don’t think that this industry is ready for something as emotionally connecting as something like Milo."
It totes wasn't the non-existent tech or his crazy ideas, it was us, guys.
It's in the Curiosity thread somewhere. People started doing calculations and found some "incongruities". There was also the artificial extension of the game by adding the ability to restore cubes. Microtransaction prices were rigged so that it was literally 10 times cheaper to add blocks than to destroy them.
Rewatching this now https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPIbGnBQcJY
It's even worse than I remember...
"This wasn't acted" , "And this works! Today, now!"
That's only one staccato in a veritable symphonic cacophony of bullshit, though. Like for example, how Milo is deliberately posed to look off to the right of the screen to have a "conversation" at that angle, which wouldn't work at any other angle, and would essentially just look stupid if you were the one conversing with him.
Basically targeting the same people who believe shit like the LG interview "prank" video isn't staged. The mouthbreathing sub-species of human who can't mentally work out why it wouldn't look in any practical way realistic because of something as basic as viewing angles and depth perception.
The mere existence of the video is basically an insult to intelligence.
Baron_Calamity
Member
Its been posted lots of times but it bears reposting:
Look at that face. He knows its complete bullshit.
I use to think Molyneux was a good but I should have known years ago. I was talking with someone who use to work at Lionhead on Black & White and The Movies. He said that Molyneux was a destructive force. Both games were almost done when Peter would go to the media and make up something that wasn't in the game. It would end up delay the games by years as things had to be reworked. Peter's coding was terrible and often he would dedicate critical parts of the game to himself. During The Movies, the programs would quietly develop the feature themselves and not tell them they weren't using his code. The only reason why The Movies shipped at all is that Activision came in and started micromanaging it. Don't know if any of that was true but he seems to be truthful and it matches now what we know about Molyneux.
Look at that face. He knows its complete bullshit.
I use to think Molyneux was a good but I should have known years ago. I was talking with someone who use to work at Lionhead on Black & White and The Movies. He said that Molyneux was a destructive force. Both games were almost done when Peter would go to the media and make up something that wasn't in the game. It would end up delay the games by years as things had to be reworked. Peter's coding was terrible and often he would dedicate critical parts of the game to himself. During The Movies, the programs would quietly develop the feature themselves and not tell them they weren't using his code. The only reason why The Movies shipped at all is that Activision came in and started micromanaging it. Don't know if any of that was true but he seems to be truthful and it matches now what we know about Molyneux.
AdamMcKraken
Member
Black and White from Lionhead Studios, that was actually his last good game!
toythatkills
Member
Its been posted lots of times but it bears reposting:
ITs' noT ON RAils III
"Even science fiction could not foresee this!"
Why anybody still takes this fraud seriously is beyond me
dead monkey uk
Member
Yes, once Curiosity starts making money Molyneux will make himself God.
thelatestmodel
Junior, please.
The 22Cans website said:
Defining games of his career: Populous, Dungeon Keeper, Theme Park, Syndicate. Everything pre-Lionhead.
I don't claim to know what's going on at 22Cans, but Godus is a fucking disaster. If Peter's goal with 22Cans was to make "the defining games of his career", then this is just about the worst start possible. Is he actually there on a daily basis, managing and directing his vision? Genuinely curious, because it seems like he's not.
Shining Sunshine
Banned
They sent an intern to talk to him? lol
I dunno about you, but Godus sounds like the very definition of overpromising and bullshit, which is representative of his career.
Baron_Calamity
Member
More like 'it's hard to convince Microsoft this is more then a tech demo, and a real game that can be released'. As he is quoted in this Eurogamer article.
Man, just reading this kind of shit again around Milo makes you realize what a joke he has become. Such a shame.
BibiMaghoo
Member
Well the game isn't actually 'out' yet, it's still early access, and so I guess that's why he hasn't been paid. Of course, by the time it is out, no one will be buying it, and therefore the guys cut of the profits will be almost nothing at all.
So, I guess well done Molyneux. A* bullshit.
So, I guess well done Molyneux. A* bullshit.
These:
He made two of the greatest games ever and his name is tied to several others.
That's why I used 'still'. I actually loved populous in the day (never played DK), and hell, I even had some fun with Fable.
But I think he should've burned trough the goodwill he acquired based on his past a long time ago
thelatestmodel
Junior, please.
Ha! A little harsh perhaps, but one could see it that way. Ouch.
Baron_Calamity
Member
He just burned the last bit with me.
Freedom = $1.05
Banned
No one wants to fund his games so it's not like the industry isn't trying.
Really? Fucking really? I don't think this is enough to call him a "bad person" over. Not even close.
