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NPD Sales Results for January 2015 [PS4 #1, Nintendo Numbers, XB1 Minimum]

Welfare

Member
Games of that caliber are extremely rare, No exclusives last year had a big impact imo. I expect QB to fall in line with them.

Let me write this again.

So the Xbox One going from 141k in January to 258k in February to 311k in March is Titanfall not helping? ok
 

Links_fantasy

Junior Member
I know it's only a box you place under your tv but the huge size of the Xbone is a real turn off for me. It's very American and looks like a VCR box, compared to the small PS4 and WiiU which both just look much better and sleeker. A slim would really help its image in Asia and Europe where size matters.
 

Occam

Member
Maybe some potential buyers delayed their purchase until the launch of New 3DS. At least for Nintendo's sake I hope so.
 
Attach rates are a factor when deciding what ecosystems can be monetized for profitability... It's not a dismissible number since its indicates how active the user base of a console is which helps with projections

Tie Ratio is an absolutely vital metric in the forecast trinity:

(Install Base) x (SW Tie Ratio) x (SW ARP) = SW Market Size

The SW Tie Ratio, from a publisher perspective, is not AS important as Installed Base, but it's a very important metric.

Both consoles are still doing exceptionally well.

Legacy consoles and handhelds? Different story. Still on their way to irrelevance.
 

Cornbread78

Member
Most Walmart's in my area are still selling the regular PS4 sku and have not received from the warehouse and or placed the TLOU bundles on shelves; clearing out that old stock... Not sure about th e rest of the country, but the bundle would have had little to no impact on sales...
I have seen them at Target, GS and BB for the past couple weeks though...
 
In 2016, they could have 16/14nm versions of their SoCs which should significantly reduce power consumption and would allow for a slim models possible they do 20nm chip revisions, but I don't know if there's an impetus to do that when both consoles seem so reliable this go around.

That is risky. Intel has been trying to perfect their 14nm process for 3 years and have just moved onto it. TSMC and GF are just now moving to it. It could be another 2 to 3 years before they have it perfected. AMD will be coming out with 20nm parts soon.

Maybe the PS4 and X1 don't come out with a new model, but I suspect the internals will move onto the 20nm process soon to make them more profitable.
Maybe allow for more affordable price cuts this holiday.
 

Chobel

Member
Tie Ratio is an absolutely vital metric in the forecast trinity:

(Install Base) x (SW Tie Ratio) x (SW ARP) = SW Market Size

The SW Tie Ratio, from a publisher perspective, is not AS important as Installed Base, but it's a very important metric.

Both consoles are still doing exceptionally well.

Legacy consoles and handhelds? Different story. Still on their way to irrelevance.

What's SW ARP?
 
That is risky. Intel has been trying to perfect their 14nm process for 3 years and have just moved onto it. TSMC and GF are just now moving to it. It could be another 2 to 3 years before they have it perfected. AMD will be coming out with 20nm parts soon.

Maybe the PS4 and X1 don't come out with a new model, but I suspect the internals will move onto the 20nm process soon to make them more profitable.
Maybe allow for more affordable price cuts this holiday.

Price per transistor is starting to level off so 20nm probably won't be immediately advantageous.
 
Not even 12 months ago Titanfall did wonders for the Xbox One.

I hate to say this, but Titanfall was special. The hype train for Titanfall was madness.I couldn't go on Twitter without seeing everyone (press) rave about Titanfall for weeks on end.

Titanfall, imo, will be unmatched in a long,long time in terms of pre-launch hype for a new IP.
 

ascii42

Member
Most Walmart's in my area are still selling the regular PS4 sku and have not received from the warehouse and or placed the TLOU bundles on shelves; clearing out that old stock... Not sure about th e rest of the country, but the bundle would have had little to no impact on sales...
I have seen them at Target, GS and BB for the past couple weeks though...

According to Aqua's contribution to the Predictions OP, Walmart is not carrying the TLOU bundles.
 

VinFTW

Member
Did you not read anything else I wrote? Like Seriously?

I disagreed with your thought process in the other thread I disagree with you here. It's not just about sales, you simply think every X1 exclusive will be average or below average.

I can't really argue with someone with their mind already made up.

Not to mention only the first 2 (?) sentences really was relevant to our discussion.

True, the difference could be as little as 7-10k.

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People really expect Bloodborne to move the mass market? LOL.

What's SW ARP?

Software Average Retail Price... which in 2014 jumped to $27 from $24 in 2013 thanks to the console transition.

Tie ratios are tougher to calc on an aggregate due to which platforms you do or don't include, but the new gen consoles are holding their own there, too. When you include Digital, tie ratios are up big versus prior gen launch.

Then the installed bases, which are both still fantastic.

From any way you look at it, both boxes are having incredible starts and should provide confidence to anyone looking at the space.
 

Three

Member
Beating last year is a collapse?

If you ignore the context of his/her post then sure. It was pretty clear. Let me paraphrase "it will collapse after a strong December forcing them to keep the price at 350". Which is exactly what happened.
 

Sarobi

Banned
It's funny that we don't have numbers. Still people are saying that PS4 sold well and Xbox One is doomed again.

People will tend to believe this when you drop the price of your syster, bundle games with it, and have gift card promotions (depending on the store) on it, and still fail to edge out the competition.
 

Lynn616

Member
"1. The X1 will collapse after a strong Dec, MS will keep the price at $350."

The X1 sales did collapse, hence MS kept the price at $350. So I don't see how I was wrong? Sure, we'll never know how much they collapsed, but egh, I think it's safe to assume they did, no? It's been a while but that was my thought process back then.

First they didnt keep it a $350. Second, Collapsed from what? December? Of course they. So did the PS4. If that was what you were talking about why even bring it up? Collapsed from last year? They beat last year..

If you ignore the context of his/her post then sure. It was pretty clear. Let me paraphrase "it will collapse after a strong December forcing them to keep the price at 350". Which is exactly what happened.

Well that is a safe prediction then. Sales in January will collapse compared to December. Great work.
 
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