Just glue one of the Mara figures onto an Amiibo base.
That's not the same. But I never even thought of the possibility of ripping off an amiibo off of its base and replacing it by another figure.
Just glue one of the Mara figures onto an Amiibo base.
I'm not trying to be offensive. Call it a relationship sim if you prefer. The difference is pretty unimportant. All of your actions only affect one thing: relationships. Life sim is less appropriate than dating sim and whether you choose to date them or not, the biggest portion of the game is centered around relationship building in P3 and P4.The part I bolded is what makes you sound like an idiot for calling Persona a dating sim.
Not trying to start shit. I like the games. I'm cleaning up trophies for my platinum in P4 Golden as we speak.No, I'm pretty sure I spent most of my time dungeon crawling, fusing Personas, and watching established story cutscenes in which optional relationships had no bearing. And is that the definition of a dating sim? Even if you don't date anyone?
Yeah, as a collector I'd like to see some. Even just one, if that's most practical for Nintendo.
You are sadly mistaken. Whether you believe it has "ruined" anything or not, Twitter has modified the English language in several ways. Hashtag and tweet are part of the language, whether you like it or not.
Fortunately, it really doesn't matter if anyone likes it. I actually love it when people are upset by the evolution of a language. That anger is really an uncomfortable realization that language isn't prescribed and that the rules people love are to describe language use, not to control it.
Guess you have a point. Just scan the figure into Mario Kart to get a Golden chariot and a Marahead helmet.That's not the same. But I never even thought of the possibility of ripping off an amiibo off of its base and replacing it by another figure.
I just woke up and I am hung over as hell. My apologies. I see people expressing the same sentiment seriously too often.I think you missed the part where I was being facetious. I would have thought typing "everything" in bold would have given that away.
The bulk of the game is relationship management. Time management is only important in how it affects your relationships. Only in extremely rare situations can you miss story content and that has nothing to do with the choices you have made throughout the game but only with choices you make in very specific situations.
I'd really like a Roy amiibo, alas I don't think we will ever seen one ;.;
I just woke up and I am hung over as hell. My apologies. I see people expressing the same sentiment seriously too often.
At E3 Nintendo will announce the HD remaster of SSB Melee and release a whole new Smash line of amiibo including Roy!
I'm not going to go through this discussion again, but I have one question: Can you recommend me more dating sims like Persona 3 and Persona 4? Apparently, as it turns out despite not being aware of it, I'm a huge fan of dating sims, and I'd like to play more like these games.
Conception? I don't know. Consider the fact that you might actually enjoy dating sims though. It doesn't make you a bad person. There is no reason to be so defensive and, again, I am not trying to insult you or your videogames (that I happen to really like).I'm not going to go through this discussion again, but I have one question: Can you recommend me more dating sims like Persona 3 and Persona 4? Apparently, as it turns out despite not being aware of it, I'm a huge fan of dating sims, and I'd like to play more like these games.
I know, but how they know it's the song playing in the video? It's said somewhere?Kiria's "Reincarnation" topping the weekly music ranking's top 100. That's also clearly the song in the trailer.
you really do just love the dungeon crawling and combat, I don't want to be a dick and will respect that. But I can certainly recommend you some other dungeon crawlers if that's really the only reason you're playing Persona. Of course, I think you know all this already and don't need any recommendations. You're just very sensitive to the "dating sim" moniker for some reason.
Zero²;158784832 said:I know, but how they know it's the song playing in the video? It's said somewhere?
Complaints generally boil down to the game not being the straightforward mash-up of mainline SMT and FE that most people were anticipating.Im not sure why this game is getting so much hate and we dont even know what its about or wtf is going on in the trailer. Aside from the j-pop idol art design, im totally ready for this game. Shit anything from Atlus involving SMT is going to sell, at least now my Wii U is justified for a little longer!
Zero²;158784832 said:I know, but how they know it's the song playing in the video? It's said somewhere?
Relationship management is a huge portion of the game.
How can you even call something a dating sim when you don't even have to date anyone? I don't get it. Does that make sense to you?
Say you can play a stealth game by ramboing through everything dies it make it not a stealth game?
"Persona 3/4/whatever is a dating sim" which no one has said in here.
It's a fucking dating sim. People need to come to terms with this.
After rewatching the trailer, I notice a meloncholy bent to it that I did not catch on the first viewing.
After rewatching the trailer, I notice a meloncholy bent to it that I did not catch on the first viewing.
Oh the back vocals near the end! Thanks.Because the singer constantly says "Reincarnation."
Yeah, now I can hear it perfectly. Dunno why I thought they were saying "we will rise and shine" instead of "realization"It may not be, but the lyrics "Reincarnation, realization" are present in the chorus of the song we hear in the trailer.
Zero²;158787109 said:Yeah, now I can hear it perfectly. Dunno why I thought they were saying "we will rise and shine" instead of "realization"
Yes, I am, because I don't like dating sims. The only one I've ever actually played was Katawa Shoujo, and I did in fact enjoy it, but that's because it focused on so much more than the "dating" aspect of it. I know my tastes, and I know that I'm not the type of person to seek dating sims, because that's not what I'm into. You're the one being disingenuous by boiling the game down into this singular genre, as if that's all it has going for it. As if the dungeon crawling, the combat and its other elements don't all form a cohesive whole. To you, everything Persona 3 and Persona 4 have going for it is for the purpose of pushing the "dating sim" facet of the game, and that is, frankly, laughable.
How can you even call something a dating sim when you don't even have to date anyone? I don't get it. Does that make sense to you?
I'm not trying to be offensive. Call it a relationship sim if you prefer. The difference is pretty unimportant. All of your actions only affect one thing: relationships. Life sim is less appropriate than dating sim and whether you choose to date them or not, the biggest portion of the game is centered around relationship building in P3 and P4.
What everybody was expecting was probably a "safe" crossover, some type of SRPG on a post apocalyptic setting with more realistic characters and fan favorites, but Nintendo, Atlus and Intelligent Systems came up with this concept, why not do just that crossover and leave it at that? wouldnt a game with the two series be more appealing globally, than an anime rpg about music idols?
You're too focused on the "dating" word and I think that warped your perception about what "dating sim" really means. For example, Katawa Shoujo is actually not one.
That's not Katawa Shoujo?Dating sims (or dating simulations) are a video game subgenre of simulation games, usually Japanese, with romantic elements. They are also sometimes put under the category of neoromance. The most common objective of dating sims is to date, usually choosing from among several characters, and to achieve a romantic relationship.
So I guess Katawa Shoujo would just be a VN? Man, stuff's more complicated than I thought.The term "dating sim" is also often used incorrectly in English as a generic term for romance-driven games (ren'ai games), a subject matter which is stereotypically associated with the visual novel genre. This can lead to confusion, as visual novels are considered a subgenre of adventure games and are not technically included in the dating sim genre.
Aoi Ki is Aoi Tatsuki or Aoi Itsuki due to the way names are read sometimes =_=.
The 4th one should be Akagi Touma instead of Akaki Touma
I'm probably late on this, but you can make out the protagonists' names in the battle scenes:
Left to right in this image:
黒乃霧亜 (Kuruno Kiria?)
織部つばさ (Oribe Tsubasa?)
蒼井樹 (Aoi Ki?)
赤城斗馬 (Akaki Touma?)
We won't really know the readings until we get more info, but those are my guesses for now.
KEY WORDS HERE: "elements of visual novels or dating sims are present in Persona 3/4" is what most people have been mentioning vs. "Persona 3/4/whatever is a dating sim" which no one has said in here.
I'm probably late on this, but you can make out the protagonists' names in the battle scenes:
Left to right in this image:
黒乃霧亜 (Kuruno Kiria?)
織部つばさ (Oribe Tsubasa?)
蒼井樹 (Aoi Ki?)
赤城斗馬 (Akaki Touma?)
We won't really know the readings until we get more info, but those are my guesses for now.
Such willful blindness.
Aoi Ki is Aoi Tatsuki or Aoi Itsuki due to the way names are read sometimes =_=.
Pretty sure that Oribe is right for Tsubasa, yeah.I'm probably late on this, but you can make out the protagonists' names in the battle scenes:
Left to right in this image:
黒乃霧亜 (Kuruno Kiria?)
織部つばさ (Oribe Tsubasa?)
蒼井樹 (Aoi Ki?)
赤城斗馬 (Akaki Touma?)
We won't really know the readings until we get more info, but those are my guesses for now.
...What? Then what's a dating sim? Wikipedia:
That's not Katawa Shoujo?
Edit: Actually reading more than the first description, I came across this:
So I guess Katawa Shoujo would just be a VN? Man, stuff's more complicated than I thought.
All I know is that Persona is a JRPG.
I seriously doubt a game like that would've had the potential to sell more than a regular game in either franchise, though the real limitation here is being on Wii U and as a Nintendo-published game. If this was on 3DS it might've been able to overcome the latter due to the audience Nintendo already had with FE and companies like Atlus had already brought in, but it might've been a different game so I guess it's a moot point. Regardless, I don't think it would've been better off as a "safe" SRPG that tries to cram in FE and SMT.
The end goal is typically to further your relationships with other people, and it doesn't need to end up in them dating, either.
To call the Persona games pure dating sims are erroneous, I agree, but I think it is unquestionable that it is a JRPG with light dating-sim elements.
The play-loop of a dating sim is very similar to the non-battle part of Persona 3/4. You wake up, you choose what to do in the morning, you choose what to do at school, you choose what to do after school, you choose what to do at night, you sleep. Rinse-repeat. Sometimes there are big, plot-relevant events on certain dates and you need to plan your schedule ahead. The end goal is typically to further your relationships with other people, and it doesn't need to end up in them dating, either.
To call the Persona games pure dating sims are erroneous, I agree, but I think it is unquestionable that it is a JRPG with light dating-sim elements.
I wouldn't be surprised if there were a lot of dating sims without actual dating. I may be misremembering but I don't recall any in Never7.That makes things clearer, though it's this last part that's weird. I find it weird that a game's genre can be defined as "dating sim" if no dating actually takes place. It's semantics, but it seems disingenuous.
But yes, the last sentence is always what I would say Persona 3 and Persona 4 are: JRPGs with dating/relationship sim elements.
lol yeah, this thread needs to get back on track. I'm dying for new info on this game!lol we really need to ban the word Persona or something in anything dealing with this game. Looking at all the posts here, you'd swear you're in a Persona topic or something. Honestly who cares whether it's a life simulator or a dating sim, it's fun as shit either way, get over it. Who cares about a damn title, if you enjoy that it, then enjoy it. This argument is really out there. Does #FE even have dating sim/life simulator elements? From what I've seen in the trailer, it doesn't look like it yet, unless we are just randomly inferring things, or there is some information I don't know about.
Damn I want more info for this game already haha. I wanna know how the gameplay is gonna be!
Except the dating sims very specifically are a matter of romantic pursuits and choosing between potential partners. Its a dating sim as much as The Sims is a dating sim. You can have characters get together, but it isn't simulating the act of dating and romantic pursuit. If you really think general simulation mechanics spawning genres well beyond dating sims makes them specifically dating sim mechanics, then come on. That's like saying leveling up in FPSs means they have dungeon-crawling RPG mechanics.