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April 2015 NPD (U.S. Hardware) Predictions - Closes May 12th

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labaronx

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Road said:
Disagree. Amazon was right again. It signaled terrible PS4 sales but people just fabricated an excuse that it was sold out.

As you showed, there were two Xbox one sku in the chart.

As for why the ps4 lost, let's just run with the excuse that people are saving for the batman bundle...
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I wouldn't call it an excuse more like a hypothesis.
 
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NateDrake

Member
One game worth talking about that didn’t make the above list is Xenoblade Chronicles 3D. Nintendo revealed that it was the fifth best-selling game if you do not combine sales for platforms. Xenoblade only came out for the 3DS, so it’s at a disadvantage when compared to releases that are available across a huge range of different devices.
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Either the game had good sales or it was a poor month.
 
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Mpl90

Two copies sold? That's not a bomb guys, stop trolling!!!
As for Nintendo, it has us doing fuzzy math. Through the first four months of 2014, the 3DS’s sales have increased by 65 percent compared to the same four-month period in 2014. For the Wii U, it is up 15 percent in the first four months of 2015 compared to that period in 2014.
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From VB's article.
 
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Boke1879

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Welfare said:
Venturebeat article up

http://venturebeat.com/2015/05/14/april-2015-npd/

  1. Mortal Kombat X (PS4, Xbox One)
  2. Grand Theft Auto V (PS4, Xbox One, PC, 360, PS3)
  3. Battlefield: Hardline (Xbox One, PS4, 360, PS3, PC)
  4. MLB 15: The Show (PS4, PS3)
  5. Minecraft (360, PS3, Xbox One, PS4)
  6. NBA 2K15 (Xbox One, PS4, 360, PS3, PC)
  7. Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare (Xbox One, PS4, 360, PS3, PC)
  8. Dark Souls II: Scholar of the First Sin (PS4, Xbox One, 360, PS3)
  9. Super Smash Bros. (3DS, Wii U)
  10. Borderlands: The Handsome Collection (PS4, Xbox One)
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No shock but software sales favor PS4
 
Chobel

Chobel

Member
Welfare said:
Venturebeat article up

http://venturebeat.com/2015/05/14/april-2015-npd/

  1. Mortal Kombat X (PS4, Xbox One)
  2. Grand Theft Auto V (PS4, Xbox One, PC, 360, PS3)
  3. Battlefield: Hardline (Xbox One, PS4, 360, PS3, PC)
  4. MLB 15: The Show (PS4, PS3)
  5. Minecraft (360, PS3, Xbox One, PS4)
  6. NBA 2K15 (Xbox One, PS4, 360, PS3, PC)
  7. Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare (Xbox One, PS4, 360, PS3, PC)
  8. Dark Souls II: Scholar of the First Sin (PS4, Xbox One, 360, PS3)
  9. Super Smash Bros. (3DS, Wii U)
  10. Borderlands: The Handsome Collection (PS4, Xbox One)
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Bloodborne out of top 10 already?
 
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Boke1879

Member
Road said:
Disagree. Amazon was right again. It signaled terrible PS4 sales but people just fabricated an excuse that it was sold out. (and I was a fool to believe I them instead of Amazon)

As you showed, there were two Xbox one sku in the chart.

As for why the ps4 lost, let's just run with the excuse that people are saving for the batman bundle...
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People speculated sellout because the PS4 wasn't even being sold by amazon for a while. It was from 3rd party sellers.
 
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Steverulez

Member
Jamix012 said:
Ehhh, I don't see this as a solid argument. Almost everything has a price at which it is desirable to consumers, the question is whether you can still make a profit on that product at the market's desired price. You could sell many, many more Ferraris at a lower price but they'd take a huge loss in the process making their business non-viable. Do I think MS are going about this wrong? No. I think the long term is more important and by selling the XB1 at a loss they are keeping their brand stronger than they otherwise would which will payoff in the future.
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The Xbox 360 was sold at a loss in its early years (as they usually are) and then they had the $1bn~ RROD write-off etc vs the Xbox One was being sold at a profit however small when it first launched and they would have presumably had manufacturing costs decrease since launch, even if its a small amount I think its not that unlikely they are in a better position than the Xbox 360 was at the same time.
 
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Jamix012

Member
CosmicQueso said:
Would it be better for these companies if no price promotion was necessary? Sure. But it'd also be better for the airlines, for auto makers, for appliance manufacturers...
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Difference here is that price promotions in those industries, with few exceptions, are done while still making a profit.

CosmicQueso said:
Consumers are spending more on gaming now than they ever have in history. There are just far more options. A leaner/more efficient console market isn't in itself a bad thing.
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This is only true if you conveniently overlook the fact that both wages and the value of money have changed dramatically since gaming's inception. If you're including mobile, I don't contest this, but I'm talking about the health of the console market.

CosmicQueso said:
MS needs users. Users spend a lot of money over the life of ownership that MS sees in royalties. These royalties are what make or break the financials. Getting users with promotion is better than not getting users and having a higher price. Just because promotion is happening in Q2 or Q3 to get new users when there isn't a lot of software to encourage adoption is not indicative of poor implications for the future of the hobby.
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I don't disagree on this at all. MS does need users, but it has a flawed product. It is better for it to take a hit on this system in order to launch the next one into a relevant space. That doesn't, however, mean that the XB1 itself is a success. As a result any successors to both systems will likely either follow the PS4 model of basically no-nonsence gaming machines, or try something different again. Both, however, will remain underpowered when compared to the computers of the time.
 
Welfare

Welfare

Member
And just like that, I'm already 81k off D:

I could've saved 3k but Wii U always seems to make me change it at the last second. I had it at 47k!

Hermain Cain, look what I do to myself.
 
Ghost_Messiah

Ghost_Messiah

Member
Aeqvitas said:
I'll have whatever you are smoking. The XB1 reached 7 million sales 6 months faster than the 360. It is for all purposes a more successful console so far than the 360. The console is also not a loss leader like the 360 was, and it hasn't had a billion dollar loss in the form of the red ring disaster. So far it is both selling more and likely more profitable.

If you call that a failure, then you must have some strong confirmation bias to filter out anything that goes against your belief.

Sure MS is hungry for more, and could have had much more if it hadn't fumbled hard out of the gate. But the console is a solid success so far. Which is great for lots of gamers, because hungry MS doesn't pull punches.
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Great post. Completely agree with you. I was going to respond also but your rather elegant response is far more articulate and well communicated than what I would have written. The Xbox One relative to its predecessor is absolutely not a failure. Yes MS was surrounded by a grey mist of bad PR from the console's build up and launch; but this negative sentiment surrounding the Xbox One's debut does not automatically make the console a failure just because gamer's perception of the parent company and their failed initiatives became overwhelmingly negative. Looking at the hard numbers the Xbox One is selling faster than the 360; a massively successful console particularly in its home market. Mathematically speaking the Xbox One is a huge success (thus far) out pacing its predecessor at a respectable and admirable speed. It's just being eclipsed by Sony's even greater stratospheric success that's dimming the Xbox One's light somewhat.

PS4 is one of the fastest selling consoles of all time. Tracking ahead of the PS2 even. Any console that any company releases is going to look like a failure in the shadow of that.
 
vpance

vpance

Member
So for Amazon now we need to add some fudge factor for 2 bundles vs 1 SKU, within 10 positions, and slow preseason month.
 
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Trust me. I'm a PhD

Member
Good morning, gentlemen, how's the thread g... *reads last 5 pages* ...well then. I guess optimism was not a good course of action for April predictions^^ I guess we will just have to deal with the "all consoles are dead" stuff until May, eh?
 
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EmptySpace

Banned
Welfare said:
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oh okay.

that's such a random deal, though. get a 125/175 trade in for any last gen towards an xbone? i wonder what gains the retailers would get from this one.
 
Ghost_Messiah

Ghost_Messiah

Member
Hermain Cain said:
Did we ever get split between XBO and PS4 yet? Other threads moving fast.
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Not yet dude. Now Aqua has sailed off in to the good night (miss you Aqua) we're reliant upon Cream to show up in three or so hours. If he graces us with one of his signature pie charts then the split will be extrapolated in a matter of minutes. Kind of impossible to determine PS4's numbers without him so hopefully he'll show.
 
Bruno MB

Bruno MB

Member
It seems we already have the sales numbers for all platforms, it will be painful to see our results.

XBO - 187,000
PS4 - 174,000
3DS - 116,000
WIU - 43,000

Nintendo once again completely destroyed me.
 
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Herman Cain

Banned
Bruno MB said:
It seems we already have the sales numbers for all platforms, it will be painful to see our results.

XBO - 187,000
PS4 - 174,000
3DS - 116,000
WIU - 43,000
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We still have the above mentioned Cream and his chart. Could be even closer.

Doubt the Wii U numbers will change though.
 
demigod

demigod

Member
Wow I can't believe Xbone won. I really do think some people held back and preordered the Batman Bundle instead. June will be a bloodbath for sure.

Not surprised that MKX sold more on PS4. Didn't someone say it was selling more on Xbone?
 
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Herman Cain

Banned
demigod said:
Wow I can't believe Xbone won. I really do think some people held back and preordered the Batman Bundle instead. June will be a bloodbath for sure.

Not surprised that MKX sold more on PS4. Didn't someone say it was selling more on Xbone?
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Batman was on pre-order last month as well, and there's still the month of May NPD (which will be around IN E3 if i'm correct?) So if there's any month where batman may pull sales it's probably going to be may, but that's just my view.
 
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