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Digital Foundry - Witcher 3 performance analysis XO/PS4
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Doesn't look like it thankfully. Cinematics run as low as 20 fps and the lowest the gameplay hits is 25 in the footage provided.
hemo memo
Gold Member
The Witcher 3 is one massive world, I think MGS:TTP is one large area - helicopter - another large area which defeat the purpose of open-world to be honest. Other than that there's no way they can achieve 60FPS. I'm not a tech expert by any stretch so I could be wrong.
Game being locked to 20fps might as well be.... holy fuck thats bad
If I ever play this it was always going to be on PC but damn it sucks seeing games made this technically poor on consoles so frequently. Bloodborne FPS issues and loading still left a sour taste in my mouth.
Kenzodielocke
Banned
Holy shit do you even read the article ? 20fps only in cut scenes...
OmegaTreeFish
Banned
On a technical level it clearly doesn't run at 30fps 99% of the time as that counter in the video is often showing 29 or 28.
However thats not exactly a noticeable drop to most people.
Drops in the 20-25 range are when it gets really irritating to me personally. These videos only show that happening in the cut scenes which is less of an issue.
I'm just curious to the posts by people saying later in the game these larger drops occur. I would find that to annoying to put up with personally.
Uhh pretty sure witcher is broken up by its large areas as well.
Tripolygon
Banned
Doesn't even need to read the article, just the last page of people correcting others who didn't read or properly understand the article.
I don't think that's quite right. You do use a helicopter between areas but each area is extremely large and all areas are accessible without loading.
There are plenty of loading points in Witcher 3 as well.
The helicopter isn't used to overcome tech problems - it's a design decision to allow the player to visit multiple countries and environments.
IAmRandom31
Banned
Yeah the cinematic framerate is pretty bad
the gameplay framerate seems fine. When it does drop, it does so for about a millisecond and then returns to 30. That is not really an issue.
Very odd about the cutscene framerate.
the gameplay framerate seems fine. When it does drop, it does so for about a millisecond and then returns to 30. That is not really an issue.
Very odd about the cutscene framerate.
It is indeed.
Why would you assume that the game can't be further optimized post launch? It happened to GTA V without any visual sacrifice.
It's historically been the case with console development that you extract better performance over time as familiarity with the hardware increases.
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
The world is broken up and I wouldn't say it's that big either, as I've not played TPP I can't really comment on its area sizes but I was constantly coming to the world's end in the Witcher which confused me as I thought due to it being advertised that it was just one big map with no loading, which isn't the case.
Don't mind him. He seems to think that some of us console peasants are delusional to expect any performance improvements as the gen progresses.
Yeah, blame DF for people not reading. That makes sense.
hemo memo
Gold Member
Is it the engine or world size? I'm very interested to know how could Kojiteam going for an open-world at 60FPS.. And the game looks beautiful too.
Not necessarily. Lowering the resolution would improve performance if the GPU was the cause of the frame rate drops, but that may not be the case.
Usually, I don't blame a site for people's terrible reading comprehension and trust me, there are countless of them, but this article seemed to be weirdly written.
Cthulhu_Steev
Member
GTAV managed it without sacrificing visuals on PS4, same thing here, in game it will be a streaming problem like the city junctions used to be, and the videos will be a vsync bug.
Yeah, I usually skim read his posts, there's not much depth to him once you get past the 'console peasants' snark. I think he has a duff API.
Audioboxer
Member
Yeah...
It clearly states
To start with cut-scenes
and the next paragraph
Actual gameplay paints a slightly different picture
Not DF, but people not reading properly.
Pop
Member
Every thread ever.
27-30fps during gameplay when the game is capped at 30, not going to notice them drops. 25fps in Novigrad for a second, again, is no big deal. The cutscene issue seems like a bug.
No offense taken since I didn't write it but I thought the wording was perfectly clear. Readers seemingly spotted that 20fps bit and went crazy without reading the entire thing or watching the videos.
Lion Heart
Banned
Another clear winner for ps4, sucks for the bone, I can't imagine playing this in 900p. The crisp visuals really help suck me into the world it's really beautiful.
TechMaster360
Banned
Hopefully they will, I just think DF always find a way to give the PS4 the nod no matter what - just my opinion
Really digging deep for anti sony conspiracy angle this time .
Ha ha, I love this quote.
TechMaster360
Banned
thanks
Cthulhu_Steev
Member
Buh?! Out of interest, for what reasons wouldn't you give the PS4 version the nod here?
And DF have hardly hammered the xbone version here, they've pointed out positives and negatives for both and not made any major recommendations at this point.
I think the winner of this one (as usual) is in the eye of the beholder, there's no losers really - it's an impressive achievement by CDPR that just needs a few tweaks on consoles.
I read this as 'PS4 wins!'. Typical DF subterfuge.
Chobel
Member
smh, DF just can't take a break.
Of course, my good man, of course.
It's almost always accusations of Xbox bias around here so seeing the opposite definitely makes me chuckle.
Jakartalado
Member
After playing for 20 hours, I'm not convinced by this analysis.
The beginning of the game doesn't push the engine to it's limit. Fighting through the swamps with explosive gas while raining is probably the worst case scenario, and for me it feels worse then 20 fps.
They should analyse those situations. Although the entire quest with Keira inside the cave looking for Ciri performed perfectly, and was amazing.
The beginning of the game doesn't push the engine to it's limit. Fighting through the swamps with explosive gas while raining is probably the worst case scenario, and for me it feels worse then 20 fps.
They should analyse those situations. Although the entire quest with Keira inside the cave looking for Ciri performed perfectly, and was amazing.
Chobel
Member
He works for DF.
Man I remember last generation when they were Xbox fanboys, and now they're sony ponies.
Why can't they be impartial!!!!!11
Cthulhu_Steev
Member
Fixed
ethomaz
Banned
What comparison?
Green Yoshi
Member
As they did with the 360 last gen? I wonder what might be the reason for it. Oh yes, facts. Almost forgot it.
mario_O
Member
It's kinda strange to start the article with the performance of the cutscenes, and then go for the most important part of the game, the gameplay. It's bizarre.
Begaria
Member
Sounds like both console versions need some extra work to nail down the performance. A capped frame rate on XBO and checking in on that 30 to 20 insta drops on PS4 would be nice. In other news, misterxmedia's blog is having a field day with this one compared to any other analysis DF has put up. It's quite entertaining.
What. The. Fuck.
TechMaster360
Banned
uh oh - I see the hounds are after me - guys i'm not going to get into an argument - move on
ShadowSoldier89
Member
its not all sunshine and rainbows on PC either, if you fix the config that locks cutscenes to 30FPS then it is mostly perfect, however crossfire and SLI flicker abounds
People that buy crossfire and SLI setups never learn.
Cthulhu_Steev
Member
Everyday is a field day at the misterxmedia refuge retreat.
Now, you say 'hounds' but that's not the four-legged animal whose adult form begins with 'H' that you really mean, is it? I think you'll find on this one, everybody and Nelson is laughing at you.
ShadowSoldier89
Member
1 card isnt strong enough for higher resolutions. Not much I can do but buy 2-3
Yeah, because jumping straight to conclusions and acting concerned is more fun than reading the article. It's pretty annoying tbh and we get all kinds of shit post because of this.
Well, if that's what you got from my post, have it your way.