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Iron Man 3 is a decent movie

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The Technomancer

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Its a great movie. Its one of the best of the MCU. On reflection, I think it edges out Winter Soldier, its basically tied with the first Captain America for me for "best MCU" movie
 

The Technomancer

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Killian is even closer to Tony as a character. A twisted mirror image of Tony. He is a man who, by his own ingenuity and willpower, overcame a disability to create an empire like Tony's and managed to beat Tony (albeit temporarily) by doing the one thing that no one thought was possible: he created tech that was better, even more cutting edge than Tony's. It's a tech that Killian relies on, like a crutch. Tony had Iron Man, Killian had Extremis. And the only way Tony could beat Killian was to believe that he was more than his tech, that he, Tony Stark the person, was Iron Man.

Yes, fucking thank you. This is what I've been saying for ages.
 

mernst23

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You reversed the order of those scenes broski. He infiltrates the mansion and then he saves the people on Air Force One.

And jarvis is the one who tells him the "mandarin" is in miami. The point of my first sentence regarding the airplane rescue is that he only needed jarvis online to send him a suit, which at the time before the Miami scene, was online.
 

The Technomancer

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And jarvis is the one who tells him the "mandarin" is in miami. The point of my first sentence regarding the airplane rescue is that he only needed jarvis online to send him a suit, which at the time before the Miami scene, was online.

No, he needed the rubble cleared away from his house to get his suits, which they both mention in dialogue and show on screen
 
I liked Iron Man 3. One thing's for sure, it was a hell of a lot better than #2. The race track scene was the only good part of that movie.
 
I also don't get the criticism that Killian is "just another corporate suit." We see very little of him in that role, if any (just that scene with Pepper). He's a scientist that is backing a terrorist. I suppose that's a little like Jeff Bridges (the terror part), but I think they are quite different.
 

Greenzxy

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Its a great movie. Its one of the best of the MCU. On reflection, I think it edges out Winter Soldier, its basically tied with the first Captain America for me for "best MCU" movie

For it to be tied to Winter Soldier that means you liked it better than Iron Man 1?

I haven't seen Winter Soilder yet so I don't know how that movie compares.
 

~Devil Trigger~

In favor of setting Muslim women on fire
the movie was shit

the worst in MCU, literally everything(except maybe Tony's PTSD) was handled HORRIBLE bad; the fight scenes, Mandarin reveal/twist, the Mandarin himself, Pepper, the ending.

By far the most useless movie in the overall MCU plot.
 

The Technomancer

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For it to be tied to Winter Soldier that means you liked it better than Iron Man 1?

I haven't seen Winter Soilder yet so I don't know how that movie compares.

Yeah I do like it better than Iron Man 1. Iron Man 1 has some great stuff, but it basically feels like its building towards the moment in the middle where he flies the armor to Gulmera. Everything after that is a bit of an afterthought.
 
He literally at one point in the movie around the airplane rescue just says "Jarvis should we enact the house party protocol?" That means he just needed jarvis active to be able to dispatch a suit to him. The entire Miami mansion scene Sam fisher scene is done with Tony having access to the other suits except for mark 42 because Jarvis is online by that point.

Add to the fact that the entire movie has Tony in a start of a metroid game situation for no discernable reason.

Because that's the entire point of the fucking movie. He's still Iron Man regardless of whether he's inside or out of the suit.
 
This is one of the worst movies in MCU. I don't really mind the fake Mandarin, but the Extremis were horrible villains. Final fight scene with Pepper was horrible too.

I prefer even Ironman 2 and Thor: The Dark World to this movie.
 

rexor0717

Member
I liked this movie more than Iron Man 1, thats for sure. I thought the Mandarin reveal was great and it was just so different than anything else the MCU had offered up to that point. Tony being a DIY superhero was fun and I liked his scenes with the kid. I never took the ending as Tony retiring, it was more "I don't need all these different suits. When shit gets real, all the world needs is Tony Stark."
 
I didn't like the villains. The Mandarin was a waste. However, exploring Tony Stark outside of his suit was pretty good.

Winter Soldier still trumps it easily
 
I'm a huge Shane Black fan anyway, so really enjoyed IM3.

It's funny as hell, the set pieces are great (the barrel of monkeys one is thrilling), and I loved Trevor.
 
I thought it was okay when it came out but on rewatch it's just bad.

Yeah, I liked Kiss Kiss Bang Bang, but this isn't it and even if it was, it wouldn't fit

Villain was super boring, give me kung fu guy with magic space rings over lame white guy in a suit

Also fuck that shitty kid
 
Doesn't this movie have a scene where Tony Stark goes in without armor and kicks a ton of ass by himself and then a few scenes later he is all scared to fight anyone and tries to sneak around?
 

Tookay

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Killian is even closer to Tony as a character. A twisted mirror image of Tony. He is a man who, by his own ingenuity and willpower, overcame a disability to create an empire like Tony's and managed to beat Tony (albeit temporarily) by doing the one thing that no one thought was possible: he created tech that was better, even more cutting edge than Tony's. It's a tech that Killian relies on, like a crutch. Tony had Iron Man, Killian had Extremis. And the only way Tony could beat Killian was to believe that he was more than his tech, that he, Tony Stark the person, was Iron Man.

That's way more interesting than a vague terrorist who may or may not have any magic powers.
I agree that the movie intended this thematic comparison and maybe it would have been interesting if the movie had been executed properly, but they blew it. His turn to villainy turns on the flimsiest reasoning I've seen in a movie in ages (because Tony didn't want to talk to him on News Years Day?).

And I don't really think the "white corporate dude was actually the real bad guy, not some boring terrorist" twist is some subversive or even original commentary either. The first IM's villain did that too for God's sake. Almost any given season of 24 does that. It'd almost be more original for a terrorist to actually be a competent villain these days than some twist.
 

Korigama

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Really disliked this movie (the only MCU film I could say that about so far), and would also rank Iron Man 2 above it. Extremis was overpowered garbage, basically amounting to the equivalent of giving an Infinity Stone to everybody who wielded it in how the concept was executed, making even the most throwaway of fodder every bit as dangerous as the main villain (who was also lame as hell, his character and his motivation). And yes, regardless of his state of mind at the time, Tony telling them where he lived was one of the stupidest ideas ever.

That said, I actually liked the Mandarin twist, the gadget improvisations without the suit were interesting, and I really enjoyed the airplane rescue.
 

MedHead

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I really liked the movie. I like seeing heroes with weaknesses and fears.

I don't understand why people like The Winter Soldier. That felt like such a generic action movie.
 

SolVanderlyn

Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
It's the best Iron Man movie.
 

CloudWolf

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I did not like how completely incompetent Tony Stark became in the movie. Why does he give his home address to a terrorist group? Why does Tony Stark have hundreds of extremely fragile suits lying around? In Avengers his suit withstood Thor's hammer and now one falls apart after being hit by a truck?

Also, the villian and his mooks were awful. I'm not a comic reader and I was actually kind of glad they didn't go with the Chinese criminal stereotype baddie, but Killian was not a good replacement.
 
It was a plot element on Agents of Shield. My bigger problem with it in IM3 is how it turns random people into super badass unkillable soldiers capable of ripping apart Iron Man suits with their bare hands like tin foil. Not even Thor does that shit in this universe, but take a shot of Extremis and you're apparently stronger than Thor.

Their fight in the forest in Avengers 1 indicates that he can do it if he wants
 

MrBadger

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I liked it. But it does feel more like a comedy or a satire than a legit entry to the MCU. The Mandarin thing was hilarious though.
 
I love Iron Man 3 but hate the Mandarin twist and I absolutely despise Iron Man 2.

I think that's not only my opinion but I think most of the people I know share the same sentiment.

The Mandarin twist really is a mess and brings down the quality of the film but I'm willing to say it stands with the best of the MCU installments otherwise.

Besides,
the twist was redeemed in the One-Shot from Thor: The Dark World where they revealed that the real Mandarin was still out there. Even if it goes nowhere else in the movies, it's sort of reaffirming to know that in the canon, he's still a threat.
 

ElTopo

Banned
I thought it was a great movie and not just decent. But whatever, I'm sure there's a loud minority that whine about the Mandarin and ignore everything else about the movie.
 

reKon

Banned
I'm shocked that people think this is the best Iron Man movie let alone, top MCU. Just wow..

The film was closer to mediocre to me than decent. I would have to rewatch again to remember why it left a bad taste in my mouth. I usually remember a lot of details from films I enjoyed so it's not surprising that I don't remember much. I just know that it had way too many issues for me.
 

Dai101

Banned
the forced loveable kid helps saves the day aspect(where the hell were his parents again?)

Why people spout this bullshit? The kid was there just as a mini punching bag for Tony. Also, he clearly states that his mom was out working and his dad abandoned them a few years ago.

Aren't they just melting through them? I don't remember anyone literally ripping the suits apart.

YES: People forget this every fucking time, for some reason

Ben Kingsley watching a Liverpool game took me by surprise xD

Ole ole ole ole!!

There were something missing to make this the best movie ever, Rodhey spouting how he's too old for this shit.
 
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