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[Poodlestrike]

I'm cautiously optimistic about AR/Pistol starts. The AR is an actual gun now, and if they can bring the pistol up to the point where it's a viable utility weapon in its own right, it could work.

Especially since the spawns are pretty generous with the rifles. IIRC, Truth had three of the things inside each base, and more scattered around the map. If you get totally locked out of precision weapons, that's... kind of on you.

 

[FUNKNOWN iXi]

Been saying it since the beginning of time, AR/Magnum starts is the way to go. I'll be twirling my invisible mustache if Halo 5 proves that to be correct.

Next up is convincing more people about #NoMotionTracker and a #CustomGamesBrowser. Shoot me a PM Frank/Josh, let's discuss these strats over a nice beer/bowl (whatever you're into) on Skype. Reading Josh's responses got me hyped to talk/think critically about Halo, one of my favorite things to do in gaming.

 

[Welfare]

Has it ever been considered to include a short tutorial mode in? I think I remember seeing that CS:GO had a target shooting mode that explicitly teaches a lot of the mechanics. I know it's not ideal to force players to play a learning mode but there's definitely been stuff in previous Halos that can be tough to learn without reading up online (Halo 3's non hitscan BR for example)

A CS:GO like obstacle course should be a thing in Halo 5 for new players to quickly learn the new systems.

Titanfall had one for the movement and was done really well, and not everyone plays the campaign. People just want to play multiplayer.

 

[Tawpgun]

The "map movement" argument for AR starts is null in Halo 5 because of all the movement options.

"Weapon variety" has always been suspect. Me spawning with a crap gun to only discard it for a better weapon isn't variety, it's the developer spawning me with a crap gun.

If the AR is actually a good weapon in H5, than I should have to think if I want to drop it or not, not go immediately to the nearest BR/DMR/LR/SMG and swap it.

#2cents

T H I S

The AR's role in previous halo has been the Garbo gun you want to get rid of. Or in the lower skill brackets, the ez mode pew pew beat down.

Just goes to show how different skilled players want different things out of the game

 

[Ramirez]

Any day Ram.

Now I need a more disturbing avatar.

I am open to all suggestions.

<3

I really liked the Halo 5 Magnum and didn't care much for the BR, so I'm kinda indifferent.

 

[Prinz Eugn]

Joystick on the back of my head. Push up, tilt my head down. Push down, tilt my head up. It does make sense, but the fact is that if I play default for say five minutes, it's really confusing to go back to inverted. However, I never get good with default, just passable.

Just like you pivot your head to the right to look left?

 

[Tawpgun]

Hold up to look up down for down left for left right for right.

Simple clean easy

 

[HTupolev]

Joystick on the back of my head. Push up, tilt my head down. Push down, tilt my head up.

Push left, tilt your head right. Push right, tilt your head left.

Inverted always gets weird when you consider both axes, unless you're also inverting horizontal.

 

[Ragnarok Flames]

T H I S

The AR's role in previous halo has been the Garbo gun you want to get rid of. Or in the lower skill brackets, the ez mode pew pew beat down.

Just goes to show how different skilled players want different things out of the game

And lest we forget the ez mode people will Leave the game in a week for CoD anyway so why listen to anything they say?

 

[kittens]

And lest we forget the ez mode people will Leave the game in a week for CoD anyway so why listen to anything they say?

On the other hand, the AR and SMG feel more like military FPS weapons than ever before. And I personally think they look really fun to use (I never played the H5 beta tho, so I don't actually know). So who knows, maybe more COD kids will stay around this time. And I still think 343 is gonna go berserk with a drastic BTB overhaul. Maybe COD kids will like that more, too.

 

[Impala26]

Bunker was best Goldeneye level

Spoiler

Fite me

For MP, Complex and Temple were GOAT

They were also in Perfect Dark, so I guess I'm biased.

 

[User 73706]

Joystick on the back of my head. Push up, tilt my head down. Push down, tilt my head up. It does make sense, but the fact is that if I play default for say five minutes, it's really confusing to go back to inverted. However, I never get good with default, just passable.

Push left, tilt my head right.

wait-

 

[YourExWife]

I play vertical inverted, but when a game has horizontal inverted (especially if I can't change it back to default) I get beyond annoyed. That shit is so wrong.

 

[FyreWulff]

Goldeneye was pretty bad tbh. It was the best FPS on consoles, which wasn't saying much at the time. I still played the hell out of it, though. Perfect Dark was a good step up, and Halo CE was a HUGE step up.

What made Goldeneye fairly innovative, imo, was less the controls but more the mission layout and how the game played completely differently on Agent compared to 00 Agent with the changing objectives and usage of the level.

Perfect Dark took it so far that Agent and Perfect Agent on PD are practically 2 separate campaigns in the same game, even though they're on the same levels (and even then, Deep Sea changes it's layout completely on Perfect Agent)

No other console FPS, or any FPS has really done that before or since. Hell, we haven't even gotten Counter Agent as a regular feature, and we were almost sorta there with Firefight Versus in Reach. but it's one of the reasons I can go back to PD and actually want to play the lower difficulties.

Halo also shares the same history with GE in that multiplayer was bolted on at the last second under the table.

 

[darthbob]

inverted 4 lyfe

fuck y'all haters /s

 

[kittens]

What made Goldeneye fairly innovative, imo, was less the controls but more the mission layout and how the game played completely differently on Agent compared to 00 Agent with the changing objectives and usage of the level.

Perfect Dark took it so far that Agent and Perfect Agent on PD are practically 2 separate campaigns in the same game, even though they're on the same levels (and even then, Deep Sea changes it's layout completely on Perfect Agent)

No other console FPS, or any FPS has really done that before or since. Hell, we haven't even gotten Counter Agent as a regular feature, and we were almost sorta there with Firefight Versus in Reach. but it's one of the reasons I can go back to PD and actually want to play the lower difficulties.

Halo also shares the same history with GE in that multiplayer was bolted on at the last second under the table.

I have wayyyyyy more positive things to say about PD than GE. The mission objectives stuff was great and innovative, definitely, but it was the vast feature set and options in PD that really wowed me. I played the multiplayer in that game endlessly. Still, when you realize Halo CE came out just a year after PD, it shows how clunky and unsophisticated the core gameplay in GE and PD was. The movement and controls in Halo were just light years beyond the Rare games. Still, the overall package GE and PD offered were great at the time, especially if you were a console exclusive gamer.

 

[Mix]

Inverted is for scrublords and BKs

All hail default!


What we should be talking about is look sensitivity.

 

[Prinz Eugn]

Push left, tilt my head right.

wait-

thou art too slow

 

[RSB]

Ah, the classic Inverted/Non-Inverted debate. For me, it depends on the game:

Shooters (Halo, Gears) Y inverted X Normal

Shooters where you move the cursor across the screen (Rez HD, Child of Eden) Y Normal X Normal

Third person games where you move the camera around the character (Okami, FFXII) Y Inverted X Inverted

Edit: On Halo I play Inverted Bumper Jumper at 4 sensitivity (and hold crouch)

 

[Poodlestrike]

Inverted is for scrublords and BKs

All hail default!


What we should be talking about is look sensitivity.

Agreed on all counts!

I say start at 4, work your way up.

 

[Forerunner]

I play on one, not even joking.

 

[User 73706]

thou art too slow

 

[Tawpgun]

I play on one, not even joking.

Togglecrouch.jpg

 

[YourExWife]

Togglecrouch.jpg

 

[kittens]

Button Layout: Bumper Jumper
Look Controls: Default
Sensitivity: Default
Crouch Behavior: Toggle (don't hate)
Clench Protection: On

 

[jailbird20022]

I play on one, not even joking.

HOW

 

[Slightly Live]

I made the switch from Inverted to non-Inverted.

I don't know how. I confused myself.

 

[Shadders]

Inverted is for scrublords and BKs

All hail default!


What we should be talking about is look sensitivity.

7! It is the Halo way!

 

[Forerunner]

HOW

I left it on default for awhile, but I was really inconsistent in my BR fights, so I decided to lower it. If someone gets the jump on me close, I'm kind of fucked, but other than that I really like it.

 

[FUNKNOWN iXi]

Inverted is da bes, and more people need to try 10 sensitivity; it's great once you get used to it

biggy was the nerd crouching at training, literally staring into the wall while watching my red dot appear with that Rocket. Go ahead bruh, post the gif. ujustmadthatibestylin

#HuntTheTruth

 

[kittens]

Yo Frankie/David/Tashi/Melad/Grizz, what are the chances of Halo 5 copying Destiny's motion tracker?

 

[The Real Napsta]

Yo Frankie/David/Tashi/Melad/Grizz, what are the chances of Halo 5 copying Destiny's motion tracker?

Slim to none.

 

[singhr1]

Yo Frankie/David/Tashi/Melad/Grizz, what are the chances of Halo 5 copying Destiny's motion tracker?

Destiny's motion tracker is ok but there is one thing that I hate and that is you still show up even when crouched. I don't care if it's less often... it's dumb.

 

[kittens]

Destiny's motion tracker is ok but there is one thing that I hate and that is you still show up even when crouched. I don't care if it's less often... it's dumb.

In a game that lets you spawn with shotguns I'm pretty okay with knowing where other people are camping. On the other hand, the motion tracker helps them camp, too...

 

[Leyasu]

In a game that lets you spawn with shotguns I'm pretty okay with knowing where other people are camping. On the other hand, the motion tracker helps them camp, too...

Well hopefully the boltshot will be a pick up this time around. I liked the radar in the beta

 

[kittens]

Well hopefully the boltshot will be a pick up this time around. I liked the radar in the beta

I was talking about Destiny lol, but yeah, I think 343's learned from the boltshot fiasco.

 

[Granadier]

Any day Ram.

Now I need a more disturbing avatar.

I am open to all suggestions.

I feel like I need to find something for you, since I seem to remember that I found your butts one.

 

[ElzarTheBam]

I feel like I need to find something for you, since I seem to remember that I found your butts one.

Pls

 

[VincentMatts]

Might be a dumb question but, is there no way to do firefights in the ODST update?

edit: i dont think i posted this in the right thread.

 

[Haruko]

Goldeneye, the pioneering console FPS, shipped with the default control scheme inverted. Goldeneye was my first console FPS, so inverted has been programmed into me ever since.

Super influential though - and a lot of its failures inspired "fixes" you see in other games. And it had twin stick support (I didn't know this till years later).

I stick with either default controls on Goldeneye/PD, or make use of the 2-controller 2-stick schemes on the rare occasions i'm playing with just 1 friend. There's something so hilariously goofy about dual wielding N64 controllers, too.

But for modern 2-stick gamepad controls, I have to have non-inverted schemes. I got used to Halo CE with Default everything/5 sens, and that's carried on until HMCC where i've begun rewiring my brain to use Universal Bumper Jumper for everything.

For H5B, I used the Halo 4 scheme.

 

[Fata1moose]

Might be a dumb question but, is there no way to do firefights in the ODST update?

edit: i dont think i posted this in the right thread.

There is no firefight.

 

[Akai__]

Might be a dumb question but, is there no way to do firefights in the ODST update?

edit: i dont think i posted this in the right thread.

Firefight was unfortunately not included.

Totally posted the right thread. We answer all questions regarding Halo.

 

[Mistel]

Might be a dumb question but, is there no way to do firefights in the ODST update?

edit: i dont think i posted this in the right thread.

You did believe it or not. There's is no way to play firefight in ODST update campaign only, probably will never have it either.

 

[VincentMatts]

Damn, ok thanks.

 

[FyreWulff]

Might be a dumb question but, is there no way to do firefights in the ODST update?

edit: i dont think i posted this in the right thread.

Nope. They didn't bring over Firefight.

 

[Impala26]

What made Goldeneye fairly innovative, imo, was less the controls but more the mission layout and how the game played completely differently on Agent compared to 00 Agent with the changing objectives and usage of the level.

Perfect Dark took it so far that Agent and Perfect Agent on PD are practically 2 separate campaigns in the same game, even though they're on the same levels (and even then, Deep Sea changes it's layout completely on Perfect Agent)

No other console FPS, or any FPS has really done that before or since. Hell, we haven't even gotten Counter Agent as a regular feature, and we were almost sorta there with Firefight Versus in Reach. but it's one of the reasons I can go back to PD and actually want to play the lower difficulties.

Halo also shares the same history with GE in that multiplayer was bolted on at the last second under the table.

Damn, just had to remind me about this one... ouch.
I STILL talk about counter-operative because I've not seen any other game come close to emulating how it played.

 

[FUNKNOWN iXi]

Speaking of Firefight, Firefight Versus was awesome and has the potential to be a huge mode for Halo if fleshed out.

 

[VincentMatts]

Speaking of Firefight, Firefight Versus was awesome and has the potential to be a huge mode for Halo if fleshed out.

Was that in ODST? I cant even remember that.

 

[Welfare]

Was that in ODST? I cant even remember that.

Halo Reach

 

[FyreWulff]

Imagine you could play campaign in a Halo game and random Elites were actual humans


PDXBLA had matchmaking for Counter Op. So you would select counter op online, and try to finish the level without the other human controlled AIs killing you. Was pretty tense. In the original game it was splitscreen only, so you could screenlook to see where they were setting up on you.