I will say they did show a lot of PC games at the Sony show, but this was a show designed for PC gamers and it hit the nail on the head. Not one designed to sell console gamers on the concept.
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I will say they did show a lot of PC games at the Sony show, but this was a show designed for PC gamers and it hit the nail on the head. Not one designed to sell console gamers on the concept.
I'm pretty sure it is playable on the show floor?
Begaria
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If so, that's cool, but I would've liked to see it in the conference with a gameplay trailer or something.
jim2point0
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The Last Guardian and Horizon.
And even though it wasn't at Sony's conference, I also REALLY want Kingdom Hearts 3.
Well, as a PC Gamer, that show did absolutely nothing for me. I felt like it was just too much talking, which really made it drag on when they talked about something I didn't care about. They gotta find a way to move people through faster and show more news. Very few things felt like the kind of announcement you'd want to save for E3, which is the kinda thing you watch E3 for.
Honestly the only thing I really enjoyed watching was the engine showcase for the new Deus Ex. Looks pretty. And Day9 was great.
It isn't meant to "sell" pc gaming - it isn't even hosted by a platform holder.
yep. people went into it with the wrong expectations and have no one to blame but themselves
The interviews and just casually talking to devs while a trailer or gameplay runs is perfect. Fiveish minutes for a wide variety go devs to talk about their game and show off something small here and there. I think the schedule might need tweaked some but I hope they don't mess with the format.
There are definitely some criticisms to be levied at the show, but by and large I thought they did a very good job and I enjoyed the format overall.
For the most part, they just trotted out games that people should be interested in if they are PC gamers. Taste is subjective, but they brought out enough variety to keep me interested until the end, and dropped some bombs as well.
BlastProcessing
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Valve has released 10 Games in the last decade. There are few studios that can claim that output.
Immortal Technique
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I'm more into PC than console anyway these days, so I'm a little biased going in, but for sure, count me in with the group that prefers this kind of conference to the over-scripted, blustery ones from the AAA publishers. I quite liked it. Relaxed format, lots of info, they featured a ton of devs/games, what's not to like? It wasn't perfect but I'm really hoping it becomes an institution.
Half Life 3 was never possible. Even if Valve participated, and even if HL3 was coming along, there is no way they were making an announcement of that magnitude tucked away in a PC-stravaganza show
Half Life 3 was never possible. Even if Valve participated, and even if HL3 was coming along, there is no way they were making an announcement of that magnitude tucked away in a PC-stravaganza show
Poetic.Injustice
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You guys should get some Japanese games on the conference next year.
Highlights for me:
Everything else. The only games that remotely interested me were Beyond eyes and Tacoma, both of which were announced and seen already.
This entire show could have easily passed off as breakout sessions scattered throughout the week instead of a single 2.5 hour chunk. This was just an informal hodgepodge of developer interviews glued together to be called a "show". There was no cadence or theme to it at all. You could have arranged this in any order and it would still be the same. Very, very underwhelming.
- Dawn engine demo
- KI announcement for PC (not that I care for the game, but it was cool)
- AMD Dual Fury reveal
Everything else. The only games that remotely interested me were Beyond eyes and Tacoma, both of which were announced and seen already.
This entire show could have easily passed off as breakout sessions scattered throughout the week instead of a single 2.5 hour chunk. This was just an informal hodgepodge of developer interviews glued together to be called a "show". There was no cadence or theme to it at all. You could have arranged this in any order and it would still be the same. Very, very underwhelming.
Pc gaming in Japan is way more obscur than in the west... thanks to Steam they're begining to see there is a real big market for them... so I think next year might be too soon for Japan pc devs.
TouchMyBox
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BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZT wrong.
Please insert 25 cents. Thanks for playing!
How is GabeN ever going to recover from that loss of karma?
I can believe MS is turning it around for PC gamers, DX12 is gonna really change PC gaming and that is MS's baby (Win10), It's gonna make things so much easier for many developers.
I have a PS4 and a gaming PC and it is a very nice combo to have. Couldn't live with just a PC gaming rig honestly nor could i live with just a PS4. I would like to see more AAA PC exclusives though, some of those niche PC games are just not appealing to the masses.
I think the PC show was good but too long, they need to keep it to about 1 hour but to be fair it is the first ever PC show at E3 which is great to me and also understanding that there things needing ironed out. Next year should be better.
If you liked the show or want to give them advice, I think it would be nice to directly tell the authors about it : https://twitter.com/pcgamer
Bry0
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Perhaps i did not clearly state my point.
There has been a very evident shift in focus, especially in the last couple of years. I was trying to imply that in my previous post, they will continue to hold this "dont make games" stigma because despite their output, they seem averse to releasing information about an IP by which they built their company and fanbase. Valve and their priorities today are very different from their priorities 10 or even 5 years ago.
It's a funny GIF, but it's also kind of funny because:
- Didn't Day9 say he tried to argue against wearing the hat, but finally gave in?
- That part of the show was about a world premiere of a sequel to a game that's very successful and beloved by fans on Steam, with very high ratings. That seems pretty audience-positive to me.
Definitely ironic for the reasons you stated. What was more funny was seeing the game trailers staff not realizing that PC gamers love talking about hardware. AMD was right to be there though the way they went about it was similar to talking up your console without announcing a price drop.
What was sad was that game devs who were guests on GT show were so behind or unsure on how well AMD, NVidia and Intel compared with each other.
You could literally say the same for just about every developer in the industry.
Bry0
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No, not quite in the same way. Not every developer runs a massive platform like steam, runs a market like steam, or has begun to invest in hardware/vr like valve has, or has a franchise mia like valve does.
Their situation is quite unique for a "developer".
Literally post the opposite of that. Or announce Half Life 3, or even a Portal map pack.
Not a bad show, and Day9 is fantastic as usual, but there was just something amiss with it. Maybe it's just the games shown? Maybe it was that ridiculous Sony show from last night? Maybe I was really deep down hoping that HL3 would be shown? I don't know. Regardless, wasn't a bad show. Maybe next year they'll have some clout to pull off something special with the devs. Most PC games are shown off on a whim across the year, not saved for attention like the other shows for more "console" and "AAA" titles. Maybe that'll change.
Enosh
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not him but uncharted 4 and horrizon both looked amazing
plus previous stuff like killzone and infamous and the promise of another god of war
I'll probably pick one up after GoW and a price drop are out
edit:holy shit gears remastered on the PC! is that all 3 games or just the first one
edit2: oh just gears 1, meh :/
diggmcbadass
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Just catching up myself, and thought it was hilarious. Went back in this thread to see reactions, and it seems like half of gaf wasn't in on the joke.
During the new Killing Floor gore section, they said they were using a hardware solution. Does that mean they were using PhysX and just couldn't say it due to the AMD sponsorship or is it some other technology? I'd be bummed if that good stuff was locked out for me.
Edit: Did a 1 second google search. Bummer. http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/ar...oes-next-gen-with-nvidia-gameworks-physx-flex
Edit: Did a 1 second google search. Bummer. http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/ar...oes-next-gen-with-nvidia-gameworks-physx-flex
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Also watching the recording here, I'm at the Phil Spencer section... I'm not sure he will be back next year lol
FFVII for PC was announced?
Wiktor
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Microsoft's annual embarassing pcgaming support aside it was pretty fun showw. Much more laid back. I don't think we'll ever get a console-like conference, simply because it doesn't seem like a good idea for most developers to reveal their games in big batch as oppossed to doing it on their own, especially with gamescom incoming. Plus Sony and MS has been pillaging PC indie devs for games to show off during their conferences.
No, people are jumping the gun. One of the mods that seems to have an "in" with FF news suggested it's a SFV situation so that the "first on PS4" would mean a PC version eventually but not Xbox.
But nothing close to confirmation.
Just watching now.
Is there a thread anywhere discussing that new Dean Hall project, what was it called, Ion?
A game taking its influence from Space Station 13 is incredibly exciting, if only for its potential. Gods, I hope it can deliver.
For anyone unaware, SS13 is a fucking crazy weird PC game running on a clunky and schizophrenically designed game suite. I compartmentalise it on the same level as Dwarf Fortress in terms of it being near impenetrable initially (both in terms of "what do i do?" and "how do i do it?"), but having incredible scope for possibility, largely thanks to how deep and granular all its systems go, how it attempts to model things down to their minutiae. As I started to learn how to play SS13 the common thought was "wait, what, i can do that?"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Station_13
Gameplay is essentially dozens of players all spawn on an ill-fated Space Station and are assigned roles on board ranging from Head Of Security, to Botanist, to chef, down to janitor. A fail state, a calamity of some sort, is determined, unknown to players, but essentially meaning that, at some point as the game progresses, the station is going to catastrophically explode and everyone will need to evacuate. Aside from that basic set-up, players are just left to their own devices to role-play their given profession. What happens in practice is that, alongside say, an evil shapeshifter going around murdering everyone, the station simply falls apart itself through a bevy of players all fucking up their jobs somehow. You *will* need to get somewhere fast and you *will* slip and fall over because the bastard janitor left soapy water all over the place. It's essentially a Spaceballs simulator. Yes, there's a deadly threat aboard, but the real threat is always the ridiculous calamity of errors that stack up and snowball.
Is there a thread anywhere discussing that new Dean Hall project, what was it called, Ion?
A game taking its influence from Space Station 13 is incredibly exciting, if only for its potential. Gods, I hope it can deliver.
For anyone unaware, SS13 is a fucking crazy weird PC game running on a clunky and schizophrenically designed game suite. I compartmentalise it on the same level as Dwarf Fortress in terms of it being near impenetrable initially (both in terms of "what do i do?" and "how do i do it?"), but having incredible scope for possibility, largely thanks to how deep and granular all its systems go, how it attempts to model things down to their minutiae. As I started to learn how to play SS13 the common thought was "wait, what, i can do that?"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Station_13
Gameplay is essentially dozens of players all spawn on an ill-fated Space Station and are assigned roles on board ranging from Head Of Security, to Botanist, to chef, down to janitor. A fail state, a calamity of some sort, is determined, unknown to players, but essentially meaning that, at some point as the game progresses, the station is going to catastrophically explode and everyone will need to evacuate. Aside from that basic set-up, players are just left to their own devices to role-play their given profession. What happens in practice is that, alongside say, an evil shapeshifter going around murdering everyone, the station simply falls apart itself through a bevy of players all fucking up their jobs somehow. You *will* need to get somewhere fast and you *will* slip and fall over because the bastard janitor left soapy water all over the place. It's essentially a Spaceballs simulator. Yes, there's a deadly threat aboard, but the real threat is always the ridiculous calamity of errors that stack up and snowball.
Dr. Buni
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The good thing is that unlike the PS4, the PC already had a lot of value before the PC conference. No one needed to prove the PC was worth buying because it is already a known fact
For the matter, Sony also made me interested on a PS4 for the first time (while Nintendo killed my interest on keeping my Wii U, heh).
Interesting concept but not buying into a Dean Hall Early Access ever again. Learnt my lesson, a good sales man doesn't necessarily make for a good developer.
If the game ever ship, I'll check it out.
Laieon
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Heroes of the Storm is actually fun though.
King Gilga
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Don't forget that it's also microsoft that is keeping the new tomb raider, a franchise that has always been on PC, from coming to PC for a while. Getting a port of a xbone launch game and a 10 year old gears game really doesn't close to compensate.
It's like ke they're punching you in the face with one hand, and offering you some pocket change with the other.
Doesn't really work and is just kind of insulting.
It'd be worth feeling insulted for sunset overdrive though.
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How is America not getting excited about American Truck Simulator?
Yeah but Insomniac doesn't have a history of PC ports/wanting to port to PC like Crytek (Ryse), or Capcom (Dead Rising). So that seems pretty unlikely.
Some of America hasn't experienced the comfort food-glory of Euro Truck Sim 2. I pray for these people, they need
Wiktor
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They have history of making pc exclusives though.
You mean that VR title? That's the first PC-focused title of theirs isn't it? To my knowledge they haven't made a PC (AKA: Non-VR/gimmick, PC platform "focus"/target) version of ANYTHING before, so my argument still stands.
ACH1LL3US
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Wiktor
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They also made Outernauts - a pokemon-like game for browsers. Surprisingly good, shame they closed it down eventually. Altough it did get iOS port.
These days developers want their games everywhere if there's nothing preventing it.