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Xbox One adds Xbox 360 backwards compatibility

Chris1

Member
saw someone mention this last night, but didnt get a chance to see if they got a reply...now cant find their post.

Would it be possible for EA access to put up 360 games on xbox one now? Or does it not work that way at all
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Yes, it would be possible due to the way the Xbox One DRM works and the way the Xbox 360 licensing works.

EA could, in theory (and with Microsoft's agreement as I'm assuming the VM is all MS), have a VM with a 360 game in it. The 360 game in that VM would be flagged as licensed to that virtual console. Every virtual console could have the same ID in this case. It wouldn't matter. The game would run for whoever ran the emulator, regardless of it they owned a digital copy due to the console license.

Now the emulator itself is an Xbox One app. So it was setup to be a permissive rental (like XBO GWG or Vault titles) then it would only start up if you had the proper entitlement.
 

Orca

Member
Isn't that what you do to a Pinata?

I mean the stones, frying pans, etc... Clearing new space gets tedious when you have to whack stuff five or six times - same for clearing hard-packed ground. If you were able to hold the button down and have it hit repeatedly it would have been better - instead it's a 'powered up' hit that doesn't seem to have any more impact than a regular one.
 

VE3TRO

Formerly Gizmowned
Lets hope Rockstar are willing to allow Red Dead. It's at 22,500 votes and going up every second. This, Gears 3 and Fallout: New Vegas will make me happy for the time being.


Edit: Oh and PGR4! Does anyone play PGR4 still? Wondered if the servers are still active.
 

cool_dude

Banned
Lets hope Rockstar are willing to allow Red Dead. It's at 22,500 votes and going up every second. This, Gears 3 and Fallout: New Vegas will make me happy for the time being.


Edit: Oh and PGR4! Does anyone play PGR4 still? Wondered if the servers are still active.

Red Dead and PGR4 will be the end of all my free time.
 
Lets hope Rockstar are willing to allow Red Dead. It's at 22,500 votes and going up every second. This, Gears 3 and Fallout: New Vegas will make me happy for the time being.


Edit: Oh and PGR4! Does anyone play PGR4 still? Wondered if the servers are still active.

PGR multiplayer servers are still active, but the photomode and stuff is dead AFAIK.
 

mcrommert

Banned
My favourite:

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What I'm wondering is, since the Xbox One is running the Xbox 360 OS in a wrapper, and the 360 OS could emulate some OG Xbox games, could this run OG Xbox games? I wonder... Star Wars Battlefront 2 and Halo CE, 2 would be awesome. I'm curious if that's even possible - they'd probably have to pay Nvidia - and it would probably be more efficient to just emulate OG Xbox hardware on the Xbox One. If they could do that I'd be floored.

Haha I started that thread

Told you all :)
 

Figments

Member
My favourite:

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What I'm wondering is, since the Xbox One is running the Xbox 360 OS in a wrapper, and the 360 OS could emulate some OG Xbox games, could this run OG Xbox games? I wonder... Star Wars Battlefront 2 and Halo CE, 2 would be awesome. I'm curious if that's even possible - they'd probably have to pay Nvidia - and it would probably be more efficient to just emulate OG Xbox hardware on the Xbox One. If they could do that I'd be floored.

It wouldn't be too difficult to have them run natively, rather than simply rely on the 360 emulator.

In an ideal world, they'd be selling Xbox Classics on the store and the Live service would be re-enabled for OG titles that used it.
 

Cheech

Member
People will vote for what they own, so it's not a huge surprise big selling titles are at the top.

That said, who the fuck is voting for ME3 above ME2. Seriously.

Multiplayer. ME3 multi is still one of my favorite experiences in the last few years.

Edit: beaten, but hell, I'd rebuy it!
 
Posted this the other day but it got buried:

Would be great to see a recycle your old games (discs) get an upgrade to digital BC version for $5. Would be a great way for MS to get some PR points from the green part of it and hopefully generate some digital sales/further lock users in on the digital ecosystem on the business side.

I know Disney and Warner Bros did something like this for DVD to Blu Ray.

I'm sure that it'd be a nightmare to process via mail in and would require publisher participation but it would be a good way to get people to rebuy games and would generate some revenue from all of those preowned GameStop purchases they missed out on over the years.
 

Ascenion

Member
So excited for this, decided to re-buy my first Xbox 360 game to celebrate. Even found a brand new CE of it too for $9:

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It wouldn't be too difficult to have them run natively, rather than simply rely on the 360 emulator.

In an ideal world, they'd be selling Xbox Classics on the store and the Live service would be re-enabled for OG titles that used it.

This is my dream. Use those Azure servers for OG Xbox games!
Don't forget about Rare Replay this August. $30 for 30 games, and PDZ is one of them.

Of course, the PDZ CE is pretty sweet.
Will Rare Replay have online play for PDZ?
 

KieranD

Banned
saw someone mention this last night, but didnt get a chance to see if they got a reply...now cant find their post.

Would it be possible for EA access to put up 360 games on xbox one now? Or does it not work that way at all

Don't see why not EA and MS have a good relationship. I also think BC is good for gamers who never owned a 360.
 
saw someone mention this last night, but didnt get a chance to see if they got a reply...now cant find their post.

Would it be possible for EA access to put up 360 games on xbox one now? Or does it not work that way at all

On the topic of Mass Effect, i think it is a safe bet to assume EA will add 360 games to EA Access Vault soon. A nice way to add value since they have so few new games launching this gen.

That would be brilliant. Fingers crossed.
 

Woffls

Member
I've not been able to get any of my discs to work with this yet. Digitial is fine, but PDZ, Kameo and Banjo are just noooppee. Anyone else?

Posted this the other day but it got buried:

Would be great to see a recycle your old games (discs) get an upgrade to digital BC version for $5. Would be a great way for MS to get some PR points from the green part of it and hopefully generate some digital sales/further lock users in on the digital ecosystem on the business side.
That's actually a super cool idea. Just post a box of like 40 discs and your gamer tag, then wait for all the games to appear on your Xbone. I assume the boxes can just be chucked in recycling as well.
 
Posted this the other day but it got buried:

Would be great to see a recycle your old games (discs) get an upgrade to digital BC version for $5. Would be a great way for MS to get some PR points from the green part of it and hopefully generate some digital sales/further lock users in on the digital ecosystem on the business side.

I know Disney and Warner Bros did something like this for DVD to Blu Ray.

I'm sure that it'd be a nightmare to process via mail in and would require publisher participation but it would be a good way to get people to rebuy games and would generate some revenue from all of those preowned GameStop purchases they missed out on over the years.

Also brilliant.
 

ShogunX

Member
This is my dream. Use those Azure servers for OG Xbox games!

Will Rare Replay have online play for PDZ?

Perfect Dark Zero (released in 2005, 1-4 players locally, up to 32 players online) – A prequel to Perfect Dark that delves into Joanna’s origins and fuses first-person shooting with third-person.

Certainly looks like it.
 
Perfect Dark Zero (released in 2005, 1-4 players locally, up to 32 players online) – A prequel to Perfect Dark that delves into Joanna’s origins and fuses first-person shooting with third-person.

Certainly looks like it.

So it sounds like if you run PDZ through BC you're playing with Xbox 360 players, if you're running through the Rare Replay collection you're playing with Xbox One players

Cool!
 

Raide

Member
I wonder if this holds out hope for some of the games where the online has been dead for a while. Would love to see MS dedicate some Azure time to keeping more games alive.

Sure would be sweet to stomp around in ChromeHounds Phil!
 

Fox Mulder

Member
Wow.. That list........... I'm just at a loss for words

People want popular games.

I'd hope the results dont matter that much, as stuff like cod obviously gets more votes over smaller stuff like deadly premonition or vanquish.

The whole point of BC is wanting to play games you own, which is why people are voting for 360 Minecraft or halos when there's better versions out.
 

Erasus

Member
So this works like PS2 backwards compatability on all PS3 models, where you download the game + specific game emulator fixes. Then the emulator is in the PS3 system emulating the PS2 OS and loads the game.

Pretty friggin amazing how they are emulating a 360 on xbox one hardware 0_o
MS truly are software masters.
 
People want popular games.

I'd hope the results dont matter that much, as stuff like cod obviously gets more votes over smaller stuff like deadly premonition or vanquish.

The whole point of BC is wanting to play games you own, which is why people are voting for 360 Minecraft or halos when there's better versions out.

Vanquish already showed up in the game image rolls at the conference so it is pretty much confirmed it is coming.
 
While I like the idea of Microsoft adding only backwards compatible 360 games to Games With Gold, I really hope they don't use this as an excuse to not offer true XB1 games anymore. The first program is shitty enough as it is, don't cheapen it.
 

Fox Mulder

Member
Vanquish already showed up in the game image rolls at the conference so it is pretty much confirmed it is coming.

I figured they just scrolled through a bunch of Xbox 360 games and wasnt really a confirmation of anything. Especially since it sounds like they can get pretty much anything to work beyond peripheral based games, but the hold up will be publishers.
 

Mindwipe

Member
Because that multiplayer was solid, and progress would be maintained. I'd love a good reason to play it again.

I did think about that and that it would be valid, but I thought it's population was pretty much zero, and more importantly are EA still even running the servers so it works?
 
So this works like PS2 backwards compatability on all PS3 models, where you download the game + specific game emulator fixes. Then the emulator is in the PS3 system emulating the PS2 OS and loads the game.

Pretty friggin amazing how they are emulating a 360 on xbox one hardware 0_o
MS truly are software masters.

Sort of but not really. Xbox One runs Xbox 360 OS as an app, which runs the game. No specific fixes required for each game, apparently, but the full game does need to be downloaded (with emulator) and it runs off the hard drive. Discs are simply used as authentication method.

Pretty sure early PS3 had PS2 hardware built in for backwards compatibility.

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Just testing out some Hexic HD with Twitch snapped for some pre-E3 gametrailers before the live shows start kicking off this morning.

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Works perfectly. Pretty spiffy.

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Edit: Oh, and here it is with the Guide overlay:

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Kinsella

Banned
Since the only way to get these games digitally is to either own an Xbox 360 already or buy them from the web store, is MS finally going to get around to removing the fuckery behind not allowing you to buy games from the 360 web store without having a credit card on file even if you have enough credit on the account to buy the game?
 

Noema

Member
That's almost enough to make me go out and get an xb1 right now.

If it weren't for Bloodborne and SFV getting an Xbone would be a no brainer for me.

It's comforting to hear that, other than multidisk games, there's no work to be done to get 360 games on XB1 now that the heavy lifting of getting the emulated VM running is done. Hopefully this will encourage publishers to aprove as many games as possible since they can benefit from digital sales in the long run by having their games available in a current platform.
 
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