But the Playstation TV was geared towards gamers and even came with a "bundle" if I'm not mistaken with Resistance 2 or something like that.
Because Xbox under Microsoft's Nadella is more than the Xbox from a few years ago. Some of the stuff they do at Xbox influences the Windows teams, such as the Preview Program. Nadella was at the E3 conference in person for a reason, the company is more unified under him. What and how Phil and Co. do their jobs will have a more direct effect on the rest of the company and vice versa. It makes perfect sense to unify their new product across the gaming and business platforms as they did with Windows. Have you seen Nadella's statement on the Minecraft purchase? It will answer your question perfectly.
Okay, so you've caught some posters in a contradiction. That's still not the crux of the overall argument, but I guess you "win" there?
Yes, I agree it was geared towards gamers....contrary to what Nadella is saying now. Therefore, some people in this thread have pointed out that Microsoft needs to get their messaging straight because it appears they are trying to mislead people as to what future tech will be available for Xbox One. EDIT: I should clarify. Sorry, for the "Xbox platform" which is apparently a thing that has zero chance of being ambiguous. Parents attempting to play Wii U games on Wii say "Hi."
If that is your point, then you are wasting your time. NO ONE is arguing that you aren't allowed to show off non-gaming tech at E3. What people are pointing out is that Nadella's comments seem to contradict with what they were implying on the stage show.
2/3rds of that article talks about how Hololen's gaming application is awesome and then goes on to discuss other ways it could be used for gaming.
What's wrong with that? The device looks promising for games like Minecraft and RTS games. Or do you think everyone loves the trio announced by Sony?
It's because some choose to be selective in their understanding. It's easier to create negative arguments that way.
What I imagine I will do the most with HoloLens is use the projector. Yea, I will probably play some Minecraft or some RTS games directly on it, but I would rather do some of the stuff shown in the concept video, like put up a projector of a game/tv on the wall, have my email/calendar icons next to it...etc.
Never said it couldn't be both. Most of us who've been introduced to Hololens' concept already assumed it would be a bit of both.
Uh huh. "Look at this gaming application for our new tech" followed by "our new tech isn't focused at gamers" is what you would consider clarification....ONE MONTH after the events of E3. When Nintendo messed up the messaging with Wii U and people thought it was a Wii peripheral, Nintendo at least had the decency to tweet about it the next day and clarify "The Wii U is a new system". But I guess Microsoft's clarification got backburnered. They were too busy clarifying how they'd "won E3" in social media on certain websites in the UK.
You honestly think that Microsoft is having a change of heart and is silently taking our advice? When has Microsoft actually done this?
Dude, that's like Microsoft saying that Windows' primary functionality is for games. No, it's for business and productivity because that's where most of the money comes from, but it does excellently for gaming too. Do you see everyone losing themselves over the fact that Microsoft isn't saying that gaming is the primary purpose for Windows?
Cool. Any stage show watched by millions and analyzed by dozens if not hundreds of websites?
But Windows 8 still wasn't really fixed, if you're implying Windows 10 was Microsoft listening to people's complaints. I acknowledge that Microsoft can listen to people and release the product they wanted several years later. That doesn't bolster your claim that they're listening to people now regarding a product they're showing off now.
No, actually, that's like Microsoft saying that they are all about PC gaming and showing off Windows at a gaming convention. And then when the games don't show up gamers say "Uh, hello?"
Maybe I misunderstood the question pointed at me, but I was referring to Hololens being shown off in tons of youtube videos, which supposedly should clarify its purpose for the average watcher of E3.
Nope. Surely then you can understand why Average Joes like me got the impression that Hololens was aimed at gamers when I watched E3, huh?
No, it's really not. HoloLens as a platform is exactly like what Windows as a platform is. It can do games but it was not built for that. You act as if the device was built for gaming and then shown at a gaming conference as if it was a gaming device. It's not, and it was at the gaming conference because it is a Windows product, as Windows is being unified with mobile and gaming. It was shown there because it will do games very well, as shown by the Minecraft demo, in the same way that Windows does gaming well.
That's your fault. Do you think that Windows' primary purpose is for games, too?
Hate to break it to you mate but average Joe doesn't watch E3 either.
Like others have already pointed out in this thread, maybe I don't have as firm of a grasp on Microsoft's Gordian Knot of interconnected products. Simpleton that I am, when I see a device prominently showcased at "the greatest gaming lineup in Xbox history" stage show at E3, I am going to infer that it might have something to do with the console called "Xbox One" or at the very least the brand called "Xbox" on display.
I didn't see Windows 10 at the Xbox show with games running on it, nor was I later told "Windows 10 is aimed at Enterprise Users, not gamers". So no, I don't think that Windows' primary purpose is games, but nothing about their marketing would really lead me to believe that in the first place.
Do you see HoloLens being marketed as Xbox's future? You are just making stuff up as you go, aren't you?
