wesleyshark
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Perfectly stated!
Though- if you're both in agreeance to see other people- then what are you doing on Ashley Madison lol.
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Ashley Madison infidelity site's customer data stolen
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Perfectly stated!
Though- if you're both in agreeance to see other people- then what are you doing on Ashley Madison lol.
old manatee
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ITT: guilty consciences
You don't have to be cheated on to see how much damage it does. You can also try to date someone that has been cheated on.
You don't have to be cheated on to see how much damage it does. You can also try to date someone that has been cheated on.
News headlines was a bad phrase - my bad. What I mean is: in the current world, if this data is posted online (which, article says, some of it has), it's going to get picked up by people looking through the lists and will inevitably lead to spouses finding out in some horrible ways. There is no ideal way that a spouse finds out their SO is cheating, but in a media circle is definitely on the low end. It's fucked to me people in here are laughing at this when so many innocent people (the spouses) are going to go through the mess that are divorces. They deserve out or to work through it, depending on their prerogative. But people here, looking on gleefully and depicting the hackers as righteous is completely fucked. Privacy is important, regardless of the situation, for better or worse, especially in the current times, and to have people just dismiss it now because it suits them is irritating.
Cabbagehead
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wesleyshark
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Crappy group of people got exposed by a different kind of crappy group of people.
Cabbagehead
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That's the just of it.
-duskdoll-
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Yes it was wrong to hack the site, yes it's wrong to get those people's information, but honestly? I don't really care. If this was any other site then i'd be upset, but you signed up to this website specifically with the intention of cheating on your partner. I'm not congratulating the hackers nor am i praising them, but i'm not going to cry over people who have no problem screwing with their partner's feelings, karma is a bitch after all.
I hope they catch the people who did this, but in the meantime ¯\_(ツ
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I hope they catch the people who did this, but in the meantime ¯\_(ツ
_/¯.Yes it was wrong to hack the site, yes it's wrong to get those people's information, but honestly? I don't really care. If this was any other site then i'd be upset, but you signed up to this website specifically with the intention of cheating on your partner. I'm not congratulating the hackers nor am i praising them, but i'm not going to cry over people who have no problem screwing with their partner's feelings, karma is a bitch after all.
I hope they catch the people who did this, but in the meantime ¯_(ツ
Yeah, basically this. Ambivalence is my response. Don't support hacking and hope they catch people because stealing money and posting details is gross, but I guess this is one of those "acceptable targets" situations in my head.
ReturnOfTheRAT
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Not my problem. I used Okcupid, POF, and Match, when I was single. Deleted my accounts on both and now I'm waiting for my hidden Match account to expire.
I'd never use a dating site while married or in something official.
I'd never use a dating site while married or in something official.
Just_myles
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ruh roh. Man I wonder what they can do with that? Just publish it for a ransom fee?
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
They want the site shut down, not money.
The hackers have no way of separating bad people from good people; everyone on the website wasn't cheating.
The worst thing about the site is their business practices.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashley_Madison#Business_model
Punishing the users to get the website shut down is shitty.
I was just curious about how someone decides to go there if they're not cheating, I always thought of it as a site for cheaters. I'm not trying to out you or something for fucks sake.
Of course it's not evil. While a dick move I don't consider cheating "evil". Like you said it often actually happens because of some pretty human, understandable feelings. Understandable but not right as I'm sure you'd agree. Being ambivalent/nonchalant at the victims of this hacking is maybe not right but it is pretty understandable.
Scientist Supreme!
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For people saying this is ok can you answer the question for me. What if some of these people were in open relationships and use this service for their fetish?
Also you do know when this information is released it not only effects the "cheater" but also the wife/husband, family and friends, right? Or do they also deserve this.
Also you do know when this information is released it not only effects the "cheater" but also the wife/husband, family and friends, right? Or do they also deserve this.
Yeah AFF used to be good about 6 years ago,I got a fair bit of action on that site. This was pre social media explosion. So you could still keep it fairly discreet. I also used Fling as well before that became shit.
FabSwingers is like the most depressing sex site in the world. The only real women on there are god awful ugly. Tons of fake profiles on there made by the admins to keep the chumps busy. And the saddest webcam room ever that shows that some men will throw compliments at the most hideous of women as long as they can maybe see a saggy boob.
Me and my SO bailed on that place. We actually had more luck on OKC finding new threesome friends.
I mean criminal prosecution and civil lawsuits.
Gemüsepizza
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Doesn't really matter if you are in an open relationship, or if you are single. You have registered yourself to a site which promotes cheating. You are willing to date people who are cheating. You support cheating.
They deserve to know the truth.
And lol @ some of the desperate attempts here to justify cheating by constructing some bizarre cases where it is supposed to be ok. Cheating is never ok.
Scientist Supreme!
Banned
So people who aren't cheating also deserve to info leaks. I'm I reading that right?Gemüsepizza;172507235 said:
For the children thing:
They deserve to know privately not leaked on to internet for millions to see.
Dyson Industries
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Who are you to judge people's decisions?
LOL yeah! And like, if single people want a date around, what the hell are they doing on OK Cupid am I right?
Real answer to your question:
Trying to find them.
Trying to find them.
Did you even read what you were responding to?
The acts are done in secret. The reasons for the act itself may not be as clear cut as you'd like to believe but you'd have no reason to tell someone that news beyond scratching your own moral itch. Giving someone that news may devastate them and it might not be your place to do so.
Also- if I had a sister and I found out that she was being cheated on, I'd certainly have a word with her husband. But even then, I'd tread lightly. There's no blanket approach to what is potentially an extremely complex emotional situation that I'm not even a part of. And I certainly wouldn't want her to find out from a bloody website.
I'm not fluffing anything up. I had a relative that cheated during her marriage because her husband was emotionally (later physically) abusive. She confided in somebody else that she had started sleeping with, because that person provided her with intimacy that her husband no longer did. He didn't know but it ended up demonstrating to her that her relationship wasn't normal and she was able to end it after the affair. If she'd been outed on a website I think that the marriage would've ended a lot worse than it did. I've seen (exposure of) cheating tear apart sections of my family but I've also seen it help some of them to fully grasp the difficult situations that they found themselves in and to act accordingly.
I'm not surprised that GAF has a group of people that feel morally superior to some people whose situations they mightn't fully understand. But here we are. People are quick to condemn the act, without questioning why it even took place. Sometimes it's the symptom of a wider problem in a relationship, as opposed to being the problem itself. If my wife cheated on me, my first question would be "why did you?", not "how could you?" And if she felt that she needed to go that far, I suspect that I'd already know the answer to that question.
I don't think that cheating is the best course of action to tackle the problems that someone might encounter in a relationship but I'm also not going to sit in judgement of someone else's decision to do so, nor will I applaud it being dragged into the public domain for all to see.
NobleGundam
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The Karma is strong in the force
No captain, you are the sociopath. Shyamalan.gif
Really depends. Sometimes it's the "right" thing to do. Being happy is right. If the person you're with doesn't feel sexually attracted to you anymore yet you both agree you don't want to divorce for whatever reason, I don't see why you shouldn't find sexual happiness elsewhere. Life is short.
uncelestial
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So, everyone agrees that leaking the CFO of Conde Nast's intention to "cheat" was bad, but some portion of you want 37 million nobodies to go through that same thing. Right on.
Dusk Soldier
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Obviously can't speak for everyone in this thread, but I think it sucks that it happened; at the same time, it's naive to think you can cheat on your spouse and that no one will go behind your back and tell them what you did. So I don't really feel sorry for any of the Ashley Madison clients.
Also, with 35 million accounts found, I don't really think any cheaters will really get exposed through this, except for maybe a few high-profile celebrities. Who is really going to sift through the list of accounts to identify all the users?
From what I can tell of the story, the "Impact Team" isn't trying to wreck marriages. If they had really hacked the site for the purpose of releasing identities or identity theft, they would have released the information or kept the hack quiet to use the info.
What they're demanding is that the site close down. It seems that they don't approve of cheating and are attacking the people who make money off of desperate people in sad situations. They aren't attacking those desperate people, they're trying to help them. The article i read mentioned something about "Impact Team" being mad about the tricky pay-to-delete aspect, especially because it is totally untrue.
Ashley Madison has a legal obligation to protect that information and they will be absolutely fucking destroyed by class action lawsuits coming from clients who've been exposed. Even if they can do some sort of legal maneuvering and prove that they couldn't reasonably expect to be hacked, they will be buried in legal fees fighting the suit. The hackers are pretty much holding the information hostage, and Ashley Madison knows they will be in some serious legal trouble if they call the hackers' bluff.
Here's the article I read on this: http://money.cnn.com/2015/07/20/technology/ashley-madison-hack/
What they're demanding is that the site close down. It seems that they don't approve of cheating and are attacking the people who make money off of desperate people in sad situations. They aren't attacking those desperate people, they're trying to help them. The article i read mentioned something about "Impact Team" being mad about the tricky pay-to-delete aspect, especially because it is totally untrue.
Ashley Madison has a legal obligation to protect that information and they will be absolutely fucking destroyed by class action lawsuits coming from clients who've been exposed. Even if they can do some sort of legal maneuvering and prove that they couldn't reasonably expect to be hacked, they will be buried in legal fees fighting the suit. The hackers are pretty much holding the information hostage, and Ashley Madison knows they will be in some serious legal trouble if they call the hackers' bluff.
Here's the article I read on this: http://money.cnn.com/2015/07/20/technology/ashley-madison-hack/
Scientist Supreme!
Banned
They are still willing to hurt people if Ashley Madison doesn't do what they say.
That's the problem here.
That's the problem here.
I understand, but they told people if they paid $x, their data would be deleted.
I can confirm there's a lot of people on AM that are in open relationships or are swingers. They go there because the first huuuuuuuge issue with meeting new people, being married, is already assumed and accepted.
1. Identity theft is NEVER justified, no matter what the people who have their data srolen have done.
2. While I agree cheating isn't good, it does not automatically make a person a scumbag. You shouldn't make that kind of judgement without knowing the whole story. If after you know the whole story, you still think they're a scumbag, that's fine. What isn't fine is to immediately jump on them and accuse them of being the worst person alive, without hearing the whole story.
2. While I agree cheating isn't good, it does not automatically make a person a scumbag. You shouldn't make that kind of judgement without knowing the whole story. If after you know the whole story, you still think they're a scumbag, that's fine. What isn't fine is to immediately jump on them and accuse them of being the worst person alive, without hearing the whole story.
That's like, your opinion. For others cheating is cheating and that's a valid opinion too.
Scientist Supreme!
Banned
I didn't I even think of that. Good point.
The median age on GAF is way too young for this to resonate with many people. But it is true.
Tinfoilhatsron
Banned
HAHAHAHAHA.
Single people on that site who just use it to get dates deserve getting their info stolen amirite?
What the fuck am I reading.
Not really. Making baseless acusations that someone is a scumbag, is inherently morally wrong and more so then the even the initial act of cheating. Don't generalize. You don't know the situation, so you should reserve judgement like a reasonable person. Life isn't as black and white as you see it.
It absolutely does. Instead of being a fucking grown up and telling the other person you aren't happy or want to see other people, you decide to violate the trust of the other person so that you can have sex with someone else (maybe even more than one person). And because you don't have the balls to say you want to see others, you smile in your partners face and laugh with them all the while knowing you haven't been faithful and probably gonna be fucking someone else in the near future. Sounds like the definition of a scumbag to me.
It could be that way. It could also be more complicated.
Atraveller
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Says don't judge the cheaters, yet judges people who are not sympathetic to cheaters, what?
IrishNinja
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nicest way i could've said it, yeah...this thread is pretty gross
seriously, that dude in particular was disgusting
yuupppppp
who's got time for context when you're ridin high on righteous indignation
see above
Good, hope all these cheating bastards get exposed.
Damn straight. If you're not happy in your current relationship then fucking end it. Don't betray someone's trust and possibly put them in harms way with STDs and shit.
Damn straight. If you're not happy in your current relationship then fucking end it. Don't betray someone's trust and possibly put them in harms way with STDs and shit.
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