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[Alrus]

Its not the system that matters, its the titles.

3DS has been selling due to it having some big name titles that has a large market following behind them.

To go even further, big sellers are important but having a steady stream of middle and lower tier titles coming in between is also very important to keep your platform afloat. As shown by the Wii U.

Having a nice amount of titles announced for the platform is also great because it bolster consumers confidence and makes them more likely to buy.

 

[Jigorath]

If NX is great Nintendo will own Japan, those 3DS sales are crazy and to think it has already sold close to 20 milion is just crazy.

That handheld? Sure, that's pretty much a given even though it will almost definitely sell worse than the 3DS. The WiiU successor on the other hand is going to be selling WiiU/PS4 levels at the rate the console market is going in Japan. They better hope they can accomplish what Sony did with the PS4 and sell it to a worldwide audience. Else they're going to have another WiiU on their hands.

 

[Maniel]

If NX is great Nintendo will own Japan, those 3DS sales are crazy and to think it has already sold close to 20 milion is just crazy.

Yup in a few weeks it should hit 19 million

 

[sörine]

That handheld? Sure, that's pretty much a given even though it will almost definitely sell worse than the 3DS. The WiiU successor on the other hand is going to be selling WiiU/PS4 levels at the rate the console market is going in Japan. They better hope they can accomplish what Sony did with the PS4 and sell it to a worldwide audience. Else they're going to have another WiiU on their hands.

I'm not sure it's a given. Depending on what NX is exactly (for example an OS across a range of devices, mostly crossplatform games) I could see a higher total enduserbase than 3DS+Wii U worldwide.

In Japan alone I'm not sure, but 3DS is on track to be the 3rd best selling system ever in the region so less than 3DS could still mean more than every Famicom or PlayStation.

 

[thestopsign]

It is really selling great.

230% over last year.

Catching the console leader (it will pass it early next year at this rate).

Doing 18k in the slowest month of the year (August) is really great... even more when you compared with these 5k last year.

Great improvement.

I want to see a comparison with PS3 in the same time period... seems like it is really getting some stream.

You are pretty off-base here on a lot of points besides the overall fact that the PS4 has improved yoy.

August and late July are definitely not the slowest parts of the year in Japan with the school holidays going on. The PS4 is catching up to the Wii U, but at such a slow pace that it can't really be considered a positive. I am sure someone who isn't at work and has time can do a full analysis of this. It has been mentioned before, but I believe that PS4 is currently bundled with a free copy of Bloodborne and is having additional marketing done currently because of this.

I'll be interested to see how MGSV effects the PS4s sales, what else is there for the rest of the year?

 

[sörine]

MGSV and DQ Builders seem like the main big ones on PS4 for the rest of 2015. Both should be 300k+ territory.

 

[Kresnik258]

even great selling IPs like Taiko underperform on the system.

Taiko Vita (2015), sales by 3rd week: 68,298
Taiko 3DS (2012), sales by 3rd week: 116,867
Taiko 3DS (2014), sales by 3rd week: 108,046
Taiko WiU (2013) sales by 3rd week: 33,261
Taiko WiU (2014) sales by 3rd week: > 14,224 (game didn't chart the 3rd week)

Just over half of the 3DS numbers and more than double the WiiU numbers.

Depends what you're comparing to I suppose. But if they need a second platform to release it on (since they seem to be doing twice-yearly releases), Vita seems a much better platform going forward than WiiU.

As always with Taiko games though, it's far too early to call anything yet. These things seem to sell for months and months afterwards.

 

[Jigorath]

I'm not sure it's a given. Depending on what NX is exactly (for example an OS across a range of devices, mostly crossplatform games) I could see a higher total enduserbase than 3DS+Wii U worldwide.

Which part? The handheld decreasing from 3DS or the WiiU successor bombing in Japan? Because I'm pretty confident on both. The 3DS is on track for what, 70m, maybe lower? Solid sales but it doesn't come close to the DS and not counting the Virtual Boy, it's the lowest selling Nintendo handheld ever. Only one that comes close is the GBA at 81m and that was only on the market for three years before getting replaced so it was special circumstances. Mobile is eating the handheld market's lunch and I don't see why that would change.

As for the WiiU successor bombing in Japan, that seems pretty obvious. It's a dying market for consoles. Like I said, they're going to need to find a way to push it outside Japan where consoles are actually selling a la PS4.

MGSV and DQ Builders seem like the main big ones on PS4 for the rest of 2015. Both should be 300k+ territory.

Persona 5 as well.

 

[Parakeetman]

MGSV and DQ Builders seem like the main big ones on PS4 for the rest of 2015. Both should be 300k+ territory.

Am curious to see if MGSV can beat MGS4's first week numbers of 465,000 units.

 

[Chris1964]

If Sony does the expected and kills handheld line after PSP, NX has good chances to top 20m again.

 

[test_account]

Guess who was the market leader (software LTD):

PS2: 181M
GBA: 56M
GC: 22M

DS: 177M
PSP: 76M
PS3: 69M
Wii: 66M

3DS: 73M
Vita: 11M
WiiU: 7M
PS4: 4M

Damn, PS2 is crazy, especially concdering that its usually one copy per household. Vita also seems good concidering the games that its getting. The biggest single seller is around 400k, isnt it? Seems that many smaller games adds up.

 

[Exterminieren]

Which part?

The handheld and home successors being that easily divisible, for a start off.

If Nintendo are doing what I and many others suspect they will be doing, the home console SKU of NX will be little more than a token in Japan, without much in the way of unique software.

 

[noshten]

10 Best selling games of the year so far, famitsu numbers retail only.

1. [3DS] Yo-Kai Watch Busters: Red Cat Team / White Dog Squad: 1.140.426
2. [3DS] Yo-kai Watch 2: Shinuchi: 604.748
3. [WIU] Splatoon: 516.485
4. [3DS] Animal Crossing: Happy Home Designer: 516.381
5. [3DS] Fire Emblem Fates: Black Kingdom / White Kingdom: 502.836
6. [PS3] Dragon Quest Heroes: 444.018
7. [3DS] The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask 3D: 439.268
8. [3DS] Pokémon Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire: 384.692
9. [3DS] Rhythm Heaven: The Best+: 384.575
10. [PS3] Tales of Zestiria: 370.264

Also:

[WIU ] Super Mario 3D World: 613.693
[WIU] Splatoon: 536.466

This one is including retail + digital, famitsu as well; 3D World numbers are a little old.

Half a million and we haven't even had the Obon boost yet, it's going to be difficult for any other Wii U/PS3/PS4 game to knock Splatoon off it's perch.
Biggest Console game of the year pretty much confirmed - question is can Splatoon sell a million in Japan by 2016.

 

[BronzeWolf]

It is really selling great.

230% over last year.

Catching the console leader (it will pass it early next year at this rate).

Doing 18k in the slowest month of the year (August) is really great... even more when you compared with these 5k last year.

Great improvement.

I want to see a comparison with PS3 in the same time period... seems like it is really getting some stream.

230% of nothing is still nothing. I think it will do much better when the next wave of games arrive but right now I don't think it's DA BOMB

 

[Jigorath]

The handheld and home successors being that easily divisible, for a start off.

If Nintendo are doing what I and many others suspect they will be doing, the home console SKU of NX will be little more than a token in Japan, without much in the way of unique software.

So you think Nintendo will just send out a console SKU to it's death? Why would anyone buy it if the handheld is getting all the same games? Nintendo is not just gonna cut off one of their revenue streams like that.

 

[Anth0ny]

splatoon is fucking killing it

 

[Elios83]

PS4 is doing much better than last year.
It's still not an ideal situation but with MGSV, Persona 5, Dragon Quest Builders and a price drop coming things can only go up.

 

[Exterminieren]

So you think Nintendo will just send out a console SKU to it's death? Why would anyone buy it if the handheld is getting all the same games?

For the West, primarily, where handhelds are likely to continue dying in much the same way that consoles are in Japan.

 

[sörine]

Persona 5 as well.

It'll be big but I'm not sure if I see it doing 300k+ on just PS4.

So you think Nintendo will just send out a console SKU to it's death? Why would anyone buy it if the handheld is getting all the same games?

You're still thinking about this is the hahdheld/console binary, it wouldn't be 2 platforms but 1. The console formfactor might not even release in Japan.

 

[allan-bh]

It is really selling great.

230% over last year.

Catching the console leader (it will pass it early next year at this rate).

Doing 18k in the slowest month of the year (August) is really great... even more when you compared with these 5k last year.

Great improvement.

I want to see a comparison with PS3 in the same time period... seems like it is really getting some stream.

18k now is great?

Japan is really dead.

 

[Jigorath]

For the West, primarily, where handhelds are likely to continue dying in much the same way that consoles are in Japan.

The WiiU should be a proof enough that a console is not a guaranteed success in the West. Especially if it has no exclusive software at all.

You're still thinking about this is the hahdheld/console binary, it wouldn't be 2 platforms but 1. The console formfactor might not even release in Japan.

Still not buying that there's going to be a hybrid platform.

 

[RM8]

I forget Animal Crossing is huge.

 

[sörine]

Still not buying that there's going to be a hybrid platform.

Not a hybrid, just one platform with an array of devices that can run it. Maybe more than just a traditional handheld and console too.

 

[Ōkami]

Do we know for sure if DQ: Builders is a 2015 release?

I've read post from people here speculating it coming in February as it was simply stated as Winter.

Even so I imagine the most sales from that game would be on Vita rather than on PS4.

 

[anexanhume]

Great numbers for PS4 and hardly any games in the top 20. I guess that's a good thing that shows it has a healthy base growing. Are people going digital or are they that satisfied with the pack-ins?

 

[Mory Dunz]

Also, since Gamescom ATR just ended, and considering the game is relevant for Japan as well, even if Kagari says FFXV will be released on Fall 2016...I dare to say I'm starting to really, really doubt that.

I've been saying this for years.


Well...I've been saying late 2017 since E3 2014 was skipped. So one year.

 

[Mory Dunz]

Which part? The handheld decreasing from 3DS or the WiiU successor bombing in Japan? Because I'm pretty confident on both. The 3DS is on track for what, 70m, maybe lower?
.

Will it even hit 60?

 

[Vena]

Will it even hit 60?

It was at 53.07 as of June 15th. Price cut + holiday would push it towards 60 mil.

 

[Nirolak]

Also, since Gamescom ATR just ended, and considering the game is relevant for Japan as well, even if Kagari says FFXV will be released on Fall 2016...I dare to say I'm starting to really, really doubt that.

I believe Fall 2016 is the target date, but I don't think it's very likely they make it either.

 

[flaviusconstantius]

I'm not sure it's a given. Depending on what NX is exactly (for example an OS across a range of devices, mostly crossplatform games) I could see a higher total enduserbase than 3DS+Wii U worldwide.

In Japan alone I'm not sure, but 3DS is on track to be the 3rd best selling system ever in the region so less than 3DS could still mean more than every Famicom or PlayStation.

The global handheld market has really collapsed to such a degree that convincing a an audience who only occasionally use their 3DS to shell out for an entirely new system is going to be hard. Especially when the alternative is an upgrade/replacement for their phone tablet which is outdated/lost/cracked.

Simply put it is not possible to carry that many electronic products with you. And any handheld system comes after a phone, and likely tablet(and maybe even laptop).

I think the transition is going to be quite challenging for Nintendo to handle. Not impossible, but challenging. And I can easily imagine a PSP>>>>>Vita level drop-off for 3DS>>>NX.

It also will remain to be seen whether or not even in Japan the transition is used as an excuse for another chunk of the remaining customer base to exit the market entirely.

 

[Jigorath]

Will it even hit 60?

3DS is at 53m shipped and getting replaced next year. Might just barely hit 60m shipments but won't go very far over that.

 

[sörine]

Will it even hit 60?

It should hit 60m near the end of the fiscal year if Nintendo's projections hold. I think we're looking at around ~65m lifetime. Not great overall, but the only dedicated platform with any likelihood of doing better is PS4.

The global handheld market has really collapsed to such a degree that convincing a an audience who only occasionally use their 3DS to shell out for an entirely new system is going to be hard. Especially when the alternative is an upgrade/replacement for their phone tablet which is outdated/lost/cracked.

Simply put it is not possible to carry that many electronic products with you. And any handheld system comes after a phone, and likely tablet(and maybe even laptop).

I think the transition is going to be quite challenging for Nintendo to handle. Not impossible, but challenging. And I can easily imagine a PSP>>>>>Vita level drop-off for 3DS>>>NX.

It also will remain to be seen whether or not even in Japan the transition is used as an excuse for another chunk of the remaining customer base to exit the market entirely.

For a PSP->Vita level dropoff NX would have to do basically everything wrong and utterly collapse in all regions. It'd have to be another Wii U essentially, but even worse.

Japan alone probably prevents that massive degree of decline from happening. NX in Japan alone will probably outpace Vita or Wii U worldwide.

 

[Busaiku]

After 1,5 month Fates has outsold Awakening LTD sales at Famitsu and is 10-15k behind at Media Create. When nintendo gives dlc we'll see how further it has gone.

DLC in this case doesn't really indicate a growth in users (new players), just Nintendo capitalizing on their whales.
It's really a hard comparison with previous titles.

 

[vinnygambini]

DLC in this case doesn't really indicate a growth in users (new players), just Nintendo capitalizing on their whales.
It's really a hard comparison with previous titles.

Nintendo commented at TGS 2012 that Fire Emblem Awakening DLC had been downloaded over 1.2 million times and revenue gross exceeded 380 million yen (price-point of 300 yen).

Revenue growth per user is a definitive for Fire Emblem If as the DLC purchase price (2000 yen scenario) far exceeds the 300 million yen.

 

[theprodigy]

DLC in this case doesn't really indicate a growth in users (new players), just Nintendo capitalizing on their whales.
It's really a hard comparison with previous titles.

For that matter, when talking about number of players, special edition definitely counts as just one.

(I wonder how Nintendo will report sales for this game)

 

[And_Gignac]

[WIU] Splatoon: 536.466

Coming for that million LTD sales when NX is out.

 

[vinnygambini]

In regards to SE, This fiscal year is all about Eidos & SE mobile bringing in the dough; next year is all about SE Japan.

March 2016 - Dragon Quest Heroes 2

July-August 2016 - Dragon Quest XI*

October 2016 - Dragon Quest Joker 3*

November-December 2016 - Kingdom Hearts 3

March 2017 - Final Fantasy XV

That's what I think will happen. I don't think FFXV development has progressed enough to release in 2016.

Feel free to add, or modify the dates to your liking.

*Usually mainline Dragon Quest release in the summer but I could also see it releasing in October, switching with Joker 3.

For that matter, when talking about number of players, special edition definitely counts as just one.

(I wonder how Nintendo will report sales for this game)

If I'm not mistaken, Media Create counts it as two, and Nintendo refers to Media Create for #'s, so most likely they will count it as two as well?

 

[Xbro]

If I'm not mistaken, Media Create counts it as two, and Nintendo refers to Media Create for #'s, so most likely they will count it as two as well?

I believe it's Famitsu that counts it as 2.

 

[Eolz]

Wow those Splatoon legs. Long enough to make the WiiU stand above 10k permanently.
IA/VT doing better than I thought too.

 

[theprodigy]

If I'm not mistaken, Media Create counts it as two, and Nintendo refers to Media Create for #'s, so most likely they will count it as two as well?

Media Create: combines Birthright/Conquest, separates special edition

Famitsu: combines everything, special edition counted as 2 sales

Dengeki: everything is separated

There's two different things Nintendo could go either way on: whether the special edition is 1 or 2 sales, and whether DLC purchases of the other route count as a full sale or not (my money's on 2 sales and no; the answer to # of players is clearly 1 and no).

 

[Eolz]

It is really selling great.

230% over last year.

Catching the console leader (it will pass it early next year at this rate).

Doing 18k in the slowest month of the year (August) is really great... even more when you compared with these 5k last year.

Great improvement.

I want to see a comparison with PS3 in the same time period... seems like it is really getting some stream.

Lol. I remember some of those posts for the WiiU's second year. Or the Vita.

If NX is great Nintendo will own Japan, those 3DS sales are crazy and to think it has already sold close to 20 milion is just crazy.

To be fair, their next handheld will own the traditional market (or rather what's left of it), whether it's great or not.

 

[Gwarf]

Damn, PS2 is crazy, especially concdering that its usually one copy per household. Vita also seems good concidering the games that its getting. The biggest single seller is around 400k, isnt it? Seems that many smaller games adds up.

Na, most people I know ended up with like two to five PS2's. Most people didn't send them in for repairs, they just bought new ones or the next slim model etc.

I had four PS2s personally. I doubt we have any idea what the actual numbers are, but I would guess you could at least cut the number of households in half.

 

[Chris1964]

Famitsu Sales: Week 31, 2015 (Jul 27 - Aug 02)

01./00. [3DS] Animal Crossing: Happy Home Designer # <ETC> (Nintendo) {2015.07.30} (¥4.320) - 516.381 / NEW <60-80%>
02./01. [3DS] Yo-Kai Watch Busters: Red Cat Team / White Dog Squad <ACT> (Level 5) {2015.07.11} (¥4.968) - 109.238 / 1.140.426 <80-100%> (-8%)
03./00. [PSV] IA/VT: Colorful # <ACT> (Marvelous) {2015.07.30} (¥5.184) - 30.014 / NEW <60-80%>
04./04. [WIU] Splatoon <ACT> (Nintendo) {2015.05.28} (¥6.156) - 29.146 / 516.485 <80-100%> (+28%)
05./05. [3DS] Rhythm Heaven: The Best+ <ACT> (Nintendo) {2015.06.11} (¥5.076) - 16.138 / 384.575 <80-100%> (-3%)
06./02. [PS3] Sengoku Basara 4: Sumeragi # <ACT> (Capcom) {2015.07.23} (¥6.469) - 13.869 / 60.160 <60-80%> (-70%)
07./00. [PSV] Date-A-Live Twin Edition: Rio Reincarnation <Date A Live: Rine Utopia \ Date A Live: Ars Install> # <ADV> (Compile Heart) {2015.07.30} (¥7.344) - 13.226 / NEW <80-100%>
08./08. [3DS] Fire Emblem Fates: Birthright / Conquest # <SLG> (Nintendo) {2015.06.25} (¥5.076) - 10.185 / 502.836 <80-100%> (-28%)
09./00. [PSV] Ray Gigant <RPG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2015.07.30} (¥6.664) - 9.742 / NEW <40-60%>
10./07. [WIU] Yoshi's Woolly World # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2015.07.16} (¥6.156) - 8.167 / 56.215 <40-60%> (-43%)
11./11. [PSV] Minecraft: PlayStation Vita Edition <ADV> (Sony Computer Entertainment) {2015.03.19} (¥2.592) - 7.990 / 259.123 <80-100%> (-12%)
12./16. [WIU] Mario Kart 8 # <RCE> (Nintendo) {2014.05.29} (¥6.156) - 7.396 / 1.082.084 <80-100%> (+0%)
13./03. [PS4] Sengoku Basara 4: Sumeragi # <ACT> (Capcom) {2015.07.23} (¥7.549) - 6.890 / 31.738 <60-80%> (-72%)
14./00. [3DS] Corpse Party: Blood Covered - Repeated Fear # <ADV> (5pb.) {2015.07.30} (¥6.264) - 6.829 / NEW <40-60%>
15./14. [PSV] Taiko no Tatsujin: V Version <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2015.07.09} (¥6.145) - 6.645 / 68.298 <80-100%> (-14%)
16./09. [PS4] Batman: Arkham Knight <ADV> (Warner Entertainment Japan) {2015.07.16} (¥8.208) - 6.232 / 68.599 <80-100%> (-56%)
17./18. [3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf # <ETC> (Nintendo) {2012.11.08} (¥4.800) - 6.155 / 4.376.681 <80-100%> (+13%)
18./17. [3DS] Pokemon Omega Ruby / Alpha Sapphire # <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2014.11.21} (¥4.937) - 5.694 / 2.849.542 <80-100%> (-8%)
19./13. [3DS] Great Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - Naruhodou Ryuunosuke no Bouken # <ADV> (Capcom) {2015.07.09} (¥6.264) - 5.276 / 173.105 <80-100%> (-37%)
20./12. [3DS] Super Run For Money Tousouchuu Atsumare! Saikyou no Tousou Monotachi <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2015.07.09} (¥5.119) - 5.179 / 35.647 <40-60%> (-39%)
21./00. [PSV] Fushigi no Chronicle: Furikaerimasen Katsu Madewa <RPG> (Spike Chunsoft) {2015.07.30} (¥3.758) - 5.059 / NEW <40-60%>
22./00. [PSV] Prince of Stride # <ADV> (Kadokawa Games) {2015.07.30} (¥6.912) - 4.838 / NEW <40-60%>
23./06. [PSV] Makai Shin Trillion # <RPG> (Compile Heart) {2015.07.23} (¥7.344) - 4.654 / 21.341 <80-100%> (-72%)
24./00. [PS4] F1 2015 <RCE> (Ubisoft) {2015.07.30} (¥8.618) - 4.184 / NEW <20-40%>
25./00. [PSV] KLAP!! Kind Love And Punish # <ADV> (Idea Factory) {2015.07.30} (¥6.264) - 3.893 / NEW <60-80%>
26./00. [3DS] Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate [1/1][Best Price!] <ACT> (Capcom) {2015.07.30} (¥3.769) - 3.423 / NEW <0-20%>
27./20. [3DS] Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS <FTG> (Nintendo) {2014.09.13} (¥5.616) - 3.228 / 2.357.691 <80-100%> (+7%)
28./00. [PSV] Natsumegu # <ADV> (Technical Group Laboratory) {2015.07.30} (¥5.378) - 3.076 / NEW <60-80%>
29./00. [PSV] Zettai Meikyuu: Himitsu no Oya Yubi Hime # <ADV> (Views) {2015.07.30} (¥6.264) - 2.901 / NEW <60-80%>
30./22. [3DS] Style Savvy 3: Kira Kira Coord <ETC> (Nintendo) {2015.04.16} (¥5.076) - 2.858 / 179.934 <80-100%> (-1%)

Top 30

3DS - 12
PSV - 11
PS4 - 3
WIU - 3
PS3 - 1

HARDWARE

+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+-------------+
|System | This Week  | Last Week  | Last Year  |     YTD    |  Last YTD  |     LTD     |
+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+-------------+
| 3DS # |     51.171 |     26.208 |     41.183 |  1.092.540 |  1.288.892 |  18.939.596 |
|  PS4  |     13.192 |     15.256 |      5.243 |    618.287 |    643.912 |   1.543.857 |
| PSV # |     12.847 |     12.737 |     20.149 |    563.677 |    770.001 |   3.986.752 |
|  WIU  |     12.589 |     11.421 |      8.722 |    334.665 |    332.287 |   2.457.948 |
|  PS3  |      2.120 |      2.379 |      6.528 |    146.903 |    336.610 |  10.165.437 |
|  XB1  |        120 |        133 |            |     11.065 |            |      57.023 |
+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+-------------+
|  ALL  |     92.039 |     68.134 |     82.320 |  2.767.137 |  3.466.948 |  37.150.613 |
+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+-------------+

 

[Windom Earle]

Splatoon is just that good, happy to see it rewarded in sales.

 

[NateDrake]

Splat-boom. The squids will takeover the world.

 

[Gwarf]

You are pretty off-base here on a lot of points besides the overall fact that the PS4 has improved yoy.

August and late July are definitely not the slowest parts of the year in Japan with the school holidays going on. The PS4 is catching up to the Wii U, but at such a slow pace that it can't really be considered a positive. I am sure someone who isn't at work and has time can do a full analysis of this. It has been mentioned before, but I believe that PS4 is currently bundled with a free copy of Bloodborne and is having additional marketing done currently because of this.

I'll be interested to see how MGSV effects the PS4s sales, what else is there for the rest of the year?

Also, I think Mario Maker will be a system seller. I think it will kick the can down the road into early 2017.

 

[Gwarf]

Famitsu numbers show a huge difference in PS4 vs WiiU...

 

[sturgboski]

If Sony does the expected and kills handheld line after PSP, NX has good chances to top 20m again.

I'd love them to take a shot at a Vita 2.0. They also need to support it content and not just content that needs to sell millions to do well, but games that cost in the same range as most of the titles out and coming out (assuming most are under $5m and probably way less with low sale number titles being constantly greenlit).

*sigh* its going to suck though since I doubt that happens. Vita is it and there goes my handheld ecosystem.

 

[Spiegel]

Na, most people I know ended up with like two to five PS2's. Most people didn't send them in for repairs, they just bought new ones or the next slim model etc.

I had four PS2s personally. I doubt we have any idea what the actual numbers are, but I would guess you could at least cut the number of households in half.

Those are software sales.

 

[Gwarf]

Those are software sales.

Ouch... someone needs to pay more attention!

:-(