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The lack of posting since joining the game yesterday has made me assume he is one of the mentioned four replacements.
What's phrasing?
Any particular reason you left it up to chance at this point? If you have qualms about someone, you could just speak up. No reason to hide behind a RNG.
Yeah I would like to know what's up with LoC. Did he actually understand Blarg's message or not? I was under the impression that he had, and he didn't seem to deny it after people assumed so too. Then he says yesterday he was joking all along and he didn't actually understand it? If that isn't cause for suspicion I don't know what is.
LoC: were you actually able to decipher Blarg's message or not?
Huh? I doubt that, he last posted 9 hours ago and said he was heading to bed...
LoC: were you actually able to decipher Blarg's message or not?
Huh? I doubt that, he last posted 9 hours ago and said he was heading to bed...
Blargonaut
Banned
Finally some activity again! After Fireblend and Charleston's posts ages ago and then Zatoth's post about replacements I thought I had offended people out of the game :'(
Come back everyone... I'm not crazy, I promise :3
IF I HAVE TO WEAR YOUR AVATARS AS HATS AND TURN THIS INTO A CHILD'S PLAYTHINGS TEA PARTY I TOTES HELLA WILL
Come back everyone... I'm not crazy, I promise :3
I don't really have qualms about anyone besides Blarg, and I'm willing to see where that goes. But lists are so hot right now.
I guess I would like Lord of Castamere to clarify what he did or didn't understand about Blarg's message. And creating very explicit ties between himself and other players (Blarg and the new players) seems kind of odd at this point.
Vote: Lord of Castamere
Correct me if I am wrong but Blarg's original puzzle post reads as 4 small puzzles as opposed to 1 big puzzle. I could be wrong there and LoC is still kind of odd because he said he didn't know the answer to the first "solute" then proceeded to post the answer. I think Blarg also seemed confused at what LoC was on about:
Either that or Blarg was linking him back to Solute 4 of the original puzzles.
Finally some activity again! After Fireblend and Charleston's posts ages ago and then Zatoth's post about replacements I thought I had offended people out of the game :'(
Come back everyone... I'm not crazy, I promise :3
IF I HAVE TO WEAR YOUR AVATARS AS HATS AND TURN THIS INTO A CHILD'S PLAYTHINGS TEA PARTY I TOTES HELLA WILL
Some of us have to sleep man, we don't all run on the energy of madness.
Lord of Castamere
Member
So you want me to potentially reveal the role of another player?...
Well yeah, I agree about the 4-puzzles rather than a big one thing. I'd like him to clarify the extent to which he understood the other messages.
So you do know Blarg's role then? And anyone who solves the puzzle would also know it? Help me out here with my sticking point that I just posted though. Did you solve 100% of the puzzle?
Maybe also consider the possibility that the message might not reveal Blarg's role but someone else's.
You don't have to. And it wouldn't really be you revealing it, if Blarg already has in these puzzles that I expect that Cultists will be able to solve since they can freely collaborate on them.
I'd at least like to know what you said you were lying about in regards to solutions.
True but I have a hard time figuring out how Blarg could possibly know someone else's role already. It's possible but it just seems so unlikely.
In regards to Sorian, he's looking town to me. Most everything he's done has had the town's best interest in mind. He's playing very pro-town right now. Prodding random people to speak up, initiating discussion, contributing to the dialogue, giving reads on players as they come. That being said, anyone could be mafia. I don't think going after Sorian night one is wise, though, as he's driving a lot of our discussion.
I agree with your read on Neuromancer. Had pretty much our first bandwagon out of the gate, came out to defend himself, and then disappeared into the background. It does seem like he's keeping up with the game but not posting. I read this as one of two things:
a) he's too afraid to make any more substantive posts, in fear of getting bandwagoned again
b) he's mafia, and afraid of slipping up
I'm leaning towards him just being new and town. Like this.
He doesn't back down and stands by his logic all the way through. To me, that reads town, as he's not flip flopping for the sake of saving his ass until...
Enough heat came on him that he was forced to change his vote. But not it was after he tried to say his peace, like he was trying to stand by his original stance. My opinion is that if he were mafia, he'd have realized he was being bandwagoned for his no lynch and flipped back on it much sooner. For, it seemed he truly did believe (as town) no lynch was in their best interest.
Anyone, still suspicious but I lean towards new townie.
What can I say, I'm an infinite mystery.
Blarg remains my strongest candidate for reasons I've enumerated. LoC could play a part of that, but I'm not sure. But the question does remain how does LoC know? But, like you said, why would two cultists associate with each other like that right out of the gate. It's too obvious. Or maybe that's exactly what they want us to think. Dammit, Blargonaut.
Lord of Castamere
Member
What?
No, I don't think I have 100%, but I've solved enough. Explaining anymore wouldn't be good, unless everyone wants me to reveal it.
Mind explaining this post to me. I read it as you saying you couldn't figure out solute 1 then you appear to be posting the answer to solute 1. It seemed to me like the first solute was only there to give a minimum number of cultists playing the game.
Yeah, I agree. I mentioned others have said he's playing like they would play mafia, and well, that means being useful to the town early on, which is good for the tourists. I just don't want everyone to take his innocence tonight for granted and skip out on placing him on the same level of inquiry as he places others, even if there's little chance he'll get lynched today.
Right now I want to keep the focus on LoC though.
Yeah, sure. I just don't want LoC's post to paint a target on Blarg's back and keep people guessing. It's not like Blarg hasn't done it himself already though
This seemed to suggest you hadn't figured it all out. Obviously you have some of it at least.
OrangeYouGlad
Banned
Did I miss something or had you actually implied or made mention that knowing a role was the outcome of solving the puzzle?
Lord of Castamere
Member
That was sarcasm. Internet needs a sarcasm button.
Lord of Castamere
Member
ID_Solution
OrangeYouGlad
Banned
Ah, the painfully obvious ID_Solution line. [internet sarcasm button]
I believe that means that Solute 2 would be the key puzzle to answer your question.
Blargonaut
Banned
Lord of Castamere
Member
I think his role gave him that info, if my deductions are correct.
Matt Attack
Member
I agree that, based on my precious experiences, this is pretty suspicious, but would a cultist really out themselves so easily? Even if there's no precedent in GAF Mafia for non-scum players to know the opposing faction's player counts (as far as I can recall), we really can't be sure how Zatoth set this game up.
It's still worth considering though.
Never Forever
Member
What else could 'ID Solution' mean?
It was easy to guess the outcome and the information that solving the puzzle could give you, even if you couldn't actually solve it.
Never Forever
Member
Okay, maybe not 'easy'. It took me a bit of time too. That sounded a bit rude.
That's a reasonable thought, I suppose. My paranoia about Blarg is still higher than it was before, though.
I agree. Also, it's not like Blarg outing himself as Mafia when he's actually town has never happened before.
I'm a big enough man to admit that I totally missed that, even though it seems incredibly obvious in retrospect.
If your deductions are correct Blarg's role is either insanely powerful. He'd have gathered some barebones information during the first day (maybe before set-up even?). Keep in mind the traditional information gathering role can only operate at night.
the question is, if you're right is he able to gather even more information in consecutive nights or is this the scope of his abilities?
Blargonaut
Banned
Coppanuva (3)
Never Forever
Darryl
Coppanuva
Lone_Prodigy (2)
Rats Off To Ya
Droplet
Blargonaut (2)
Matt Attack
Timeaisis
Flame_AC (1)
Lone_Prodigy
ultron87 (1)
Sorian
Lord of Castamere (1)
ultron87
13 votes are need to end the day early.
@Zatoth: That's probably my vote under Coppanuva there, not Coppanuva's for himself?
(I didn't retract after my convo with Sorian, although I haven't checked back if Coppa had ever voted for himself though) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyFVG4VfPmg
@Zatoth: That's probably my vote under Coppanuva there, not Coppanuva's for himself?
Eh... yes. Sry about that.
Blargonaut
Banned
@Zatoth: That's probably my vote under Coppanuva there, not Coppanuva's for himself?
Yeah I never voted for myself, nice catch. I know this place is supposed to be insane but it's still day 1, I'm not that insane yet
Oh, and while we're at it:
VOTE: blargonaut
I'm not fully convinced you're town-aligned. I don't necessarily think you're a cultist at this point, but I'm not convinced you're not a possible third-party.
I'm very much up for switching my vote to someone else if someone can make a reasonable case for them, but at the same time I'm fully willing to tie this so I don't lose a majority vote at this point.
VOTE: blargonaut
I'm not fully convinced you're town-aligned. I don't necessarily think you're a cultist at this point, but I'm not convinced you're not a possible third-party.
I'm very much up for switching my vote to someone else if someone can make a reasonable case for them, but at the same time I'm fully willing to tie this so I don't lose a majority vote at this point.
Lord of Castamere
Member
Btw voting for the person mentioned in the puzzle and not the maker of said puzzle is a dic move. Also kinda shady. Like a roundabout way to get Blargs role revealed. "No no, I don't want Blarg to reveal his role. I'm just gonna threaten you until you reveal his role."
Blarg's presumed role actually isn't that powerful as long as the only information he received was before the game started. It certainly sounds like this is a new one for Gafia but it doesn't sound OP in the grand scope of things. I suspect that Blarg, who is known for providing information behind riddles and confusion, was the one to happen to randomly get this early information which is why I'd like to bring up a counter possibility.
Someone has a role that allows them to choose someone else to receive certain information. If that person is town, it would be hard to know who to trust this early on so why not choose to have information go to Blarg who was obviously going to play games with the info.
I know why you are voting for him now purely from a numbers stand point but I urge you to not keep that vote when it comes time for the actual lynching. My feeling is that Blarg isn't cult but that is only just a feeling so I won't try to convince you because that. Instead, I want to point out that the best way to handle day 1 is to eliminate someone who has portrayed themselves as useless or an ineffective tourist. Blarg may speak in riddles but he has not portrayed himself as useless in my eyes. I'll be making a much bigger post sometime tonight to explain exactly who I am voting for and why I want to vote for them.
As someone who does not know the answer to the puzzle and is kind of on the outside looking in to this whole argument. I'm forced to suspect you for having answers and not sharing and I'm forced to suspect those that are pressuring you instead of Blarg for going for what I would consider is the "easier" target. I can't actually blame either side though, both strategies are sound.
Don't worry about it, the game is still working. Keep us posted on any developments and we will make sure the game stays on its tracks.
I don't think Coppa is suggesting Blarg is a cultist but a third party. Think about it, he could have been provided with information he can use to gain our trust and drive us towards whatever win condition he has. I find his post containing "instructions" on what night actions to to use and on whom very suspicious in that sense.
His status as a "discussion-driver" also makes me think we shouldn't lynch him today. Speaking of which, he's painted such a large target on his back I find it unlikely the mafia won't kill him. I agree a vote was unnecessary though. What is he going to do in response, reveal his role?
Lord of Castamere
Member
...but can they?
Something came up in my personal life yesterday that will cause me to be inactive for the next couple days. I've notified Zatoth and in the case that I don't come back by the beginning of the next day phase (if I'm not dead, of course), then I've requested to be replaced. Sorry about this.