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[LucidMomentum]

Cheating is victimless and perfectly legal, so cheat away!

And if you're going to cheat, cheat with ME! Sex is meaningless and it's just sex, but boy howdy do I put such a priority on it that I don't care if I bone someone in a relationship because SEX MEANS NOTHING BUT I WANT IT SO I'LL DO WHATEVER I CAN TO GET IT!

 

[Cybrwzrd]

There are so many ways that people break trust in a relationship but get over the fact. I dont understand why some many people get so hung up the sex part.

If a wife or partner just stop wanting to have sex, that should be ground for divorce, with them at fault and have them pay for the whole. Fuck those people, even if its medical and they refuse to let the partner fulfill a huge part of themselves.

Getting fucked and being wanted are something everyone deserves, and if your partner cannot or will not fulfill that. fuck them. They deserve to be cheated on.

The partner can still be a great person and you can love them. They cannot deny you that. Divorce is financially terrible for both parties. A little something on the side to keep an otherwise great marriage together is cheaper and better in the long run until your dick or pussy is useless.

of course all of this predicated that all relationships should work through problems if possible before resorting to gamesharking their relationship.

So much this. You are gonna get so much hate though.

 

[ElectricBlanketFire]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infidelity#Cultural_variation
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...ity-not-a-sin-Survey/articleshow/44353938.cms
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/20...unity-infidelity-comes-to-japan/#.VdTWU_lViko
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/02/04/inside-china-s-mistress-industrial-complex.html

Sorry but - http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/11/business/infidelity-ashley-madison-asia/

And how does a looking at infidelity through different cultural lenses support your initial argument that those who take a strong stance against it are irrational?

 

[Herbs]

And how does a looking at infidelity through different cultural lenses support your initial argument that those who take a strong stance against it are irrational?

Exactly.

Sidenote:
Love that the study cited for India was commisioned by Ashley Madison. Bottom line is cheaters are cowardly scumbags. Always were and always will be.

What is a victim of infidelity? Is it the person doing the cheating because of a lack of intimacy in a relationship or is it the person being cheated on due to a lack of intimacy in the relationship? Cheating (and I don't mean on a boyfriend or girlfriend, because that is not real) does not happen in a void. I place as much blame on the cheated on side as on the cheater when a relationship breaks down to the point that one side feels the need for that.

I would have to say that divorce is a hell of a lot harder emotionally and financially on a person than letting a spouse get a little on the side. Let alone what happens to the kids. Divorce creates victims, infidelity just causes butt hurt.

Here's the original slice of irrational delusion. Bolded the junk alternate reality view. And apparently all cheating happens due to sexual dissatisfaction in his junk world-view.

Good thing is his brand of creepy ultimates isn't the norm and never will be.

 

[TheSpoiler]

There are so many ways that people break trust in a relationship but get over the fact. I dont understand why some many people get so hung up the sex part.

If a wife or partner just stop wanting to have sex, that should be ground for divorce, with them at fault and have them pay for the whole. Fuck those people, even if its medical and they refuse to let the partner fulfill a huge part of themselves.

Getting fucked and being wanted are something everyone deserves, and if your partner cannot or will not fulfill that. fuck them. They deserve to be cheated on.

The partner can still be a great person and you can love them. They cannot deny you that. Divorce is financially terrible for both parties. A little something on the side to keep an otherwise great marriage together is cheaper and better in the long run until your dick or pussy is useless.

of course all of this predicated that all relationships should work through problems if possible before resorting to gamesharking their relationship.

You are funneling all relationships into a fine point to prove your side. This is embarrassing.

Edit: Wouldn't getting a quick fix elsewhere be gamesharking the relationship? You aren't actively fixing the problem but prolonging the pain.

 

[Omegasquash]

There are so many ways that people break trust in a relationship but get over the fact. I dont understand why some many people get so hung up the sex part.

If a wife or partner just stop wanting to have sex, that should be ground for divorce, with them at fault and have them pay for the whole. Fuck those people, even if its medical and they refuse to let the partner fulfill a huge part of themselves.

Getting fucked and being wanted are something everyone deserves, and if your partner cannot or will not fulfill that. fuck them. They deserve to be cheated on.

The partner can still be a great person and you can love them. They cannot deny you that. Divorce is financially terrible for both parties. A little something on the side to keep an otherwise great marriage together is cheaper and better in the long run until your dick or pussy is useless.

of course all of this predicated that all relationships should work through problems if possible before resorting to gamesharking their relationship.

See, this I understand. I'm of the opinion that you gotta try fixing your relationship, and that you need to communicate hard and really put in the effort, but I'm also of the opinion that your spouse or SO can't lock your wants and needs away from you and demand to control that part of your life.

 

[Applebite]

You are funneling all relationships into a fine point to prove your side. This is embarrassing.

And this is what I was trying to say. If there is some sort of understanding in your relationship or in specific cultures that it's okay to cheat on your partner if you aren't being satisfied, fine, but having that as some sort of general "everyone should think this way" rule is what is irrational. More importantly, why you wouldn't just try and talk about how you're not being satisfied or why you wouldn't try and break it off is the real question, but I guess you're too complacent to even try and attempt to answer that, especially when this is your view on things:

I'm gonna get dogpiled in here for saying this - but if your spouse withholds sex or stops being intimate then it is perfectly acceptable to cheat. And it is completely the fault of the spouse for not putting the work into the relationship that makes their partner happy.

 

[Llyranor]

I don't understand how discussing an open relationship is so hard if one party isn't providing for the other. And if that party refuses such an agreement all while neglecting and disrespecting the other party, why are they still together?

If the argument is that it's just sex and it's not a big deal:
- Why can't the unsatisfied party just abstain?
OR
- Why would the other party refuse an open relationship?

In that context, I don't see how cheating can't be interpreted as lying and a breech of trust. Because if the other party is okay with 'it's just sex' and unable to provide, then why wouldn't already be in an open relationship?

If the argument is that the other party is a controlling abusive despot, then we are discussing a whole other issue than 'I am sexually unsatisfied, but as long as I can cheat everything will be ok' territory.

Can you point out the irrationality?

 

[TheSpoiler]

And this is what I was trying to say. If there is some sort of understanding in your relationship or in specific cultures that it's okay to cheat on your partner if you aren't being satisfied, fine, but having that as some sort of general "everyone should think this way" rule is what is irrational. More importantly, why you wouldn't just try and talk about how you're not being satisfied or why you wouldn't try and break it off is the real question, but I guess you're too complacent to even try and attempt to answer that, especially when this is your view on things:

Wait, that's not my view (I guess you were referring to the guy I'm responding to, but just in case).

Cheating is cheating. It's a breach of trust. There's no excuse. If your SO knows you are out there getting some, then it's not a breach of trust. If your SO is abusive or not fulfilling your needs, it doesn't give you leeway to cheat. Instead, you either work that shit out if possible or leave and find someone else.

To be in a closed relationship where both people are supposed to be faithful and one fucks around behind your back because of reasons is cheating. You have the option (in most cases) to bounce if you aren't happy and things aren't working out.

 

[SURGEdude]

There are so many ways that people break trust in a relationship but get over the fact. I dont understand why some many people get so hung up the sex part.

If a wife or partner just stop wanting to have sex, that should be ground for divorce, with them at fault and have them pay for the whole. Fuck those people, even if its medical and they refuse to let the partner fulfill a huge part of themselves.

Getting fucked and being wanted are something everyone deserves, and if your partner cannot or will not fulfill that. fuck them. They deserve to be cheated on.

The partner can still be a great person and you can love them. They cannot deny you that. Divorce is financially terrible for both parties. A little something on the side to keep an otherwise great marriage together is cheaper and better in the long run until your dick or pussy is useless.

of course all of this predicated that all relationships should work through problems if possible before resorting to gamesharking their relationship.

Fuck people who medically are unable to be a sex object? What is wrong with people like you who seem to lack a shred of empathy?

 

[RSTEIN]

Marital infidelity cannot be defended. When you get married, you make a contract with the other person that you will be faithful throughout the marriage (unless both spouses agree to an open marriage) or unless there's a fairly clear culturally-based expectation of cheating by either spouse.

 

[ElectricBlanketFire]

If a wife or partner just stop wanting to have sex, that should be ground for divorce, with them at fault and have them pay for the whole. Fuck those people, even if its medical

This is one of the worst things I've ever read on GAF.

So much this. You are gonna get so much hate though.

And you agree with it.

 

[piratepwnsninja]

Marital infidelity cannot be defended. When you get married, you make a contract with the other person that you will be faithful throughout the marriage (unless both spouses agree to an open marriage) or unless that's a fairly clear culturally-based expectation of cheating by either spouse.

Right, so what about those couples that might use a site like the hacked one to allow for this, but want to keep that part of their life private from friends, family, etc.?

 

[RSTEIN]

Right, so what about those couples that might use a site like the hacked one to allow for this, but want to keep that part of their life private from friends, family, etc.?

I have no problem with the site, never said I did.

 

[Wreav]

Is there a website set up yet to search for email addresses or domains? I need dirt on coworkers.

 

[Beefy]

Is cheating wrong? In 99% of cases yep. But that doesn't make it right for people to hack a site and dump peoples info in public.

 

[SURGEdude]

Is there a website set up yet to search for email addresses or domains? I need dirt on coworkers.

https://ashleymadisonleakeddata.com/

Punch in the email and well, just pray that your spouse/partner/work friend/your email isn't on it.

.

 

[ElectricBlanketFire]

Is there a website set up yet to search for email addresses or domains? I need dirt on coworkers.

Yep.

https://ashleymadisonleakeddata.com/

I'm clean as a bean.

 

[Wreav]

You da real mvps.

edit: damn, no per domain searching yet.

 

[markofhavoc]

whelp....Found my dads email on it

(He is divorced because of it before)

 

[NumberTwo]

X post:

I don't condone it and I will defend their right to privacy, especially as these types of attacks become more commonplace across a variety of different services. But, I ain't shedding a tear for a bunch of philanderers either...

 

[Jason's Ultimatum]

Apparently this was the image on the main server's site before being hacked:

 

[Blue Lou]

Front cover of the Metro, a British female MP was on the list:

 

[kinggroin]

There are so many ways that people break trust in a relationship but get over the fact. I dont understand why some many people get so hung up the sex part.

If a wife or partner just stop wanting to have sex, that should be ground for divorce, with them at fault and have them pay for the whole. Fuck those people, even if its medical and they refuse to let the partner fulfill a huge part of themselves.

Getting fucked and being wanted are something everyone deserves, and if your partner cannot or will not fulfill that. fuck them. They deserve to be cheated on.

The partner can still be a great person and you can love them. They cannot deny you that. Divorce is financially terrible for both parties. A little something on the side to keep an otherwise great marriage together is cheaper and better in the long run until your dick or pussy is useless.

of course all of this predicated that all relationships should work through problems if possible before resorting to gamesharking their relationship.

We talk about the age of entitlement, but gat fucking daaaaayum

 

[BobLoblaw]

Is cheating wrong? In 99% of cases yep. But that doesn't make it right for people to hack a site and dump peoples info in public.

I'm interested in the 1%. When is it right to cheat on someone?

 

[Shaanyboi]

There are so many ways that people break trust in a relationship but get over the fact. I dont understand why some many people get so hung up the sex part.

If a wife or partner just stop wanting to have sex, that should be ground for divorce, with them at fault and have them pay for the whole. Fuck those people, even if its medical and they refuse to let the partner fulfill a huge part of themselves.

Getting fucked and being wanted are something everyone deserves, and if your partner cannot or will not fulfill that. fuck them. They deserve to be cheated on.

The partner can still be a great person and you can love them. They cannot deny you that. Divorce is financially terrible for both parties. A little something on the side to keep an otherwise great marriage together is cheaper and better in the long run until your dick or pussy is useless.

of course all of this predicated that all relationships should work through problems if possible before resorting to gamesharking their relationship.

What the fuck am I reading

 

[jstevenson]

my e-mail is there but I never signed up on the site. Frustrating.

edit - if anyone does have access to the full DB, PM me, I want to pull the rest of the data on my e-mail to prove it wasn't me if needed in the future, etc.

 

[ElectricBlanketFire]

I'm interested in the 1%. When is it right to cheat on someone?

Obviously if the other person is too weak from a terminal illness.

 

[Uhyve]

https://ashleymadisonleakeddata.com/

Punch in the email and well, just pray that your spouse/partner/work friend/your email isn't on it.

Entering the usernames of the cheating defense force (with @hotmail.com and @gmail.com at the end) is pretty damn funny.

 

[Dyson Industries]

I can't believe this site has defence forces for both pedo-Jared and victim-blaming cheaters.

Welcome to NeoGAF, where there is a defence force for everything, no matter how low.

 

[Flo_Evans]

I feel bad for checking but it had to be done.

 

[SURGEdude]

Obviously if the other person is too weak from a terminal illness.

Hey Gaf is super diverse, gotta have a few sociopaths in the mix as well.

Entering the usernames of the cheating defense force (with @hotmail.com and @gmail.com at the end) is pretty damn funny.

Shocking.

 

[FyreWulff]

this is why people shouldn't pay attention to this leak, there's absolutely nothing stopping anyone from mass-registering emails they don't own to any site. Literally every site on the internet lets you input an email and account before making it 'full', and at that point it exists in the database.

For instance, I just did some checks by generating ashleymadison@ < domain that obviously never had the address> and they all turn up as being in there, which is 100% confirmation of botted keyword-as-username registration.

So there's going to also be a lot of emails in there that were just scraped off the general internet

 

[Vigilant Walrus]

Oh wow I am loving the hate here.

The unhappy one in the relationship - the one who is doing the cheating - is somehow always the monster, right?. No blame ever on the one being cheated on, right?

Adult relationships are never so cut and dry as to be black and white. There usually is a hell of a lot of gray in there that can more than justify cheating.

Replace the bull you just said with anything else. beating her, stealing her shit, emotionally abusing her. Your argument that because relationships are not "cut and dry" is not a meal ticket to validating your own terrible behavior.

This is why vigilante justice is bad. You're already assuming every single person leaked committed adultery (sleeping with a married person) without their partner's consent (cheating). To you, every single person in that database is guilty. People could be exploring an open marriage (aka adultery but not cheating). Their personal details and fetishes are now out in the open which is not OK.

1. I'm not being a vigilant justicar or saying "hah! they deserve it. What I am saying is, that the downplaying of people cheating on is embarrassing. People have their lives ruined by cheating.
It's like hitting someone with your car and then saying that it doesn't justify getting a ticket.

Again, it doesn't matter how you feel about it. It still doesn't make leaking their private information justifiable.

Of course it matters how I, or anyone else feels about it. You don't get to dismiss it just because you say it doesn't matter, jesus christ.



EDIT:

Getting fucked and being wanted are something everyone deserves, and if your partner cannot or will not fulfill that. fuck them. They deserve to be cheated on.
.

I've been with someone who just lost her sex drive, and it took a while for me to understand that it had nothing to do with me. But look- People don't choose to lose their sex drive. You look at them like they are punishing you. That is absolutely crazy talk.

 

[The Abominable Snowman]

I don't see why people are in a moral uproar. Cheaters are gonna cheat. It's been that way for thousands of years.

 

[FyreWulff]

If a wife or partner just stop wanting to have sex, that should be ground for divorce, with them at fault and have them pay for the whole. Fuck those people, even if its medical and they refuse to let the partner fulfill a huge part of themselves.

Your spouse or SO are not your fucktoy. You are not owed sex at any time by anybody. This is straight up sociopathic and a complete lack of empathy.

 

[Baki]

Oh wow I am loving the hate here.

The unhappy one in the relationship - the one who is doing the cheating - is somehow always the monster, right?. No blame ever on the one being cheated on, right?

Adult relationships are never so cut and dry as to be black and white. There usually is a hell of a lot of gray in there that can more than justify cheating.

If you are unhappy - leave. It's fucking simple.

 

[Ric Flair]

I don't see why people are in a moral uproar. Cheaters are gonna cheat. It's been that way for thousands of years.

I'm only "but, ehhh.." about the people who maybe signed up for the site in a moment of weakness and are now being lumped together with people who didn't mind cheating on their spouses one bit. Correct me if I'm wrong, but this list includes everyone who signed up just in general right? I know I've fucked up in past relationships at times, to think the world could be exposed to said fuck-ups seems like a much larger crime than anything I ever did.

 

[Deleted member 13876]

Front cover of the Metro, a British female MP was on the list:

First thing I thought about, people are going to be digging for as many notable names as possible.

 

[FyreWulff]

Continuation of proof of my theory:


noreply@microsoft.com is in the database and "considered valid".

this leak should hold zero water with anyone sane.

 

[Ragnite]

Looks like the leaked data website was taken down.

I created this site as I believed that users should have the right to know if their email and data was compromised. Unfortunately I received a takedown notice so I will be shutting down this site, sorry for the inconvenience.

 

[LumpOfCole]

Continuation of proof of my theory:


noreply@microsoft.com is in the database and "considered valid".

this leak should hold zero water with anyone sane.

Yes, this might get Microsoft's Nore Ply is a lot of trouble.

 

[Ric Flair]

Looks like the leaked data website was taken down.

Haha, I guess I could see why. Makes it easier for wives to check whether or not their husbands are on the site database

 

[Baki]

hm i think you're a bit off base here. i at least understand that my SO still loves me, she just gets what she needs from others, something i can't give. it's not a sad fake relationship, it's a fulfilling relationship built on communication on trust. if you open your mind and your potential relationships to this idea, you can get much much more out of them. we have a strong bond that you don't get out of a ordinary relationship.

That's not cheating. That's an open relationship.

 

[FinalStageBoss]

Oh well. Good fucking luck to them lol.

 

[ReAxion]

Haha, I guess I could see why. Makes it easier for wives to check whether or not their husbands are on the site database

no, it's because he was providing access to stolen material. it's like he didn't read their statement:

Furthermore, we will continue to put forth substantial efforts into removing any information unlawfully released to the public

like, no shit.

 

[IchigoSharingan]

is there another database site to check?

 

[NullPointer]

Is cheating wrong? In 99% of cases yep. But that doesn't make it right for people to hack a site and dump peoples info in public.

I have the world's smallest violin for those-- oh wait, nope, I don't give enough shits to have even that.

This is pure, uncut, karma-powered schadenfreude. Its also so convenient a target that its almost hard to believe the fix wasn't in from the get-go. Its too perfect.

 

[THRILLH0]

Yo cybrwzrd and krauser kat if we have to listen to your bullshit can you at least promise us you will never get married or have kids?

Cause you will guaranteed fuck their lives up.

 

[Archer]

is there another database site to check?

Yes, there are.