-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
Ace Attorney 6: western release confirmed
- Thread starter L~A
- Start date
It would be a shame to miss out on the name puns at first glance, though. And while it's by no means impossible to appreciate the series without it, the Japanifornia contrivance is endearing.
And even then, Ryunosuke would be a few generations removed from Phoenix - the only change made would be an intermediate ancestor taking the name Wright through marriage; even as late as Phoenix's mother.
I agree with both of these points, and the indifference aspect is what has always made me say, in regards to DGS obviously taking place in a historical Japanese period: just say Phoenix Wright's ancestors were Japanese or something. Again, no one cares; come up with some bullshit excuse and we'll take it from there.
Our fanbase isn't so stupid that they'll make an excuse like that and we'll go, "Now, wait a minute, this doesn't work because of X, Y, Z... you guys ruined everything!" DGS takes place in Japan and the main games are in America? Fine, screw it. We're not here to think about that, we're here to enjoy the characters, story, music, intrigue and mechanics of an Ace Attorney game, and DGS appears to have all of that.
And casual fans? They'll care even less than we do if they made up some throwaway excuse. Seriously, I want to know where this idea of it being set in Japan making a localization so troublesome came from.
yea, who gives a shit about the setting. they could pretend it's on a future colony on Mars for all I care. I just like the stories and characters.
Yeah, I understand. Thanks for all your hard work.
Doing some lazy google searches it looks like it's really easy to extract text files from the game as opposed to before. However I'd do a wait and see.
Capcom USA's relationship with this series is really weird.
ShockingAlberto
Member
Capcom assumes the only way AA will hit it big is if no aspect of it ever appears foreign.
But the problem is that AA will never hit it big. It will not be this big international series. It will sell to AA fans, who will happily buy this game, and may expand further on word of mouth. And that is a good number of people.
You know how you get those people to stop buying your games and stop evangelizing them to other people? By treating that audience like shit.
But the problem is that AA will never hit it big. It will not be this big international series. It will sell to AA fans, who will happily buy this game, and may expand further on word of mouth. And that is a good number of people.
You know how you get those people to stop buying your games and stop evangelizing them to other people? By treating that audience like shit.
People did care when Phoenix wasn't in AAI and AA4. There were fans who said they won't get the game, and sales for non Phoenix game did worst
GAA is a fitting acronym because it's the noise I make every time Capcom announces something that isn't a localisation
I foresee this game as being a Phoenix adventure. I bet it being set somewhere else is in part an excuse to leave behind the ever-growing cast of main characters and sidekicks. Like, I don't think we'll see Trucy much in this. Apollo deserves to have his story finished, though.
While this is a different issue, this is probably true (to an extent). I would like to know just how much "Phoenix Wright" matters when it comes to this series in the West, because AAI as a single data point doesn't work. Again, AA4 sold far more than any Phoenix Wright game ever did in Japan (though, he does appear in it, I'll give it that).
If we had some more data for AA sales in the West, we could make some meaningful comparisons. I find it hard to believe that there's so much importance on Wright that any AA game not featuring him has to be immediately dismissed. It's an odd thought to me.
Velcro Fly
Member
3DS continues to deliver quality
But that one was way easier to localize. How can an Ace Attorney set in feudal Japan be relocated to the US? Unless they admit Phoenix's ancestors come from there, I can't imagine how it could be done. If Investigations 2 didn't make it, there's absolutely no way this one will
Why should it relocate to the US ???
Just translate the damn thing 1:1 and give the characters and places names we can understand.
Ugh, I'm reminded of this premise... I was fine with Wright no longer being the main star after AA3. Apollo Justice in AA4 was a poor replacement, but I thought what they did with the cast in AA5 showed a lot of promise and worked well.
Going back to a PW solo adventure after that? That can't be the case. And, if it is, he has to act in a way that is different than his AA1-3 self, and his AA5 self when the player was in control.
QuiteWhittle
Member
I certainly don't care. With as much discussion as they get in these threads, I was surprised that these changes only amounted to a couple of lines about Japanese immigrants in AA5 at most.
I know there are a lot of people who only know the series as "Phoenix Wright", not Ace Attorney, but I can't imagine those being big on the series in the first place
They had to change a good amount in previous games. For example in AA2, they had to reverse the way they were driving due to Japanese driving on the left side of the road, and the Americans on the right. I remember the urn of the founder of the fey school had to be changed a good amount as well. Translocating these games into America isn't an easy process.
Why is it false hope? I personally think it's possible. It's why I haven't imported DGS and played it in Japanese yet, because I'd rather play it in English if it does get localized.
hosannainexcelsis
Member
There was that clever moment when they had one witness plead the Fifth in the localization as a reason to stop talking on the stand.
Why have they announced the localization for AA6 before they've even acknowledged the existence of DGS?
Honestly, I'm not sure I'll end up getting AA6 if we don't get GAA. It's not a matter of being insulted. If I can't get the game that I actually want to play, it's just harder to remain interested in the rest of the franchise.
Because they did the same thing with PLvAA and AA5?
Why are you bringing up PLvAA when Capcom didn't publish or localize that?
I think it's more that Great Ace Attorney doesn't feature the main cast, so it's automatically a spinoff.
I actually forgot about that.
Is it possible that another company could localize Great Ace Attorney? Like, they could outsource it to XSeed or something (see what Nintendo did with the Last Story and Pandora's Tower).
Yeah, but Apollo Justice pushed Phoenix to the side and only kept a few other tertiary characters like the Judge or Emma (Who had a greater role than before). I felt that, if that could work as a mainline game, a several centuries-old prequel could count, too.
I mean, now we know it doesn't, but I just assumed they gave up numbering the entries and that Great Ace Attorney was part of the series proper.
Extremely doubtful. Operation Rainfall was a unique case, and if a company like Capcom wanted to see this released in the West, they'd definitely do the work themselves.
If anything, I could see 8-4 doing it, considering the working relationship the two companies have. Guess we'll just have to play the waiting game to see if that hint they dropped about working on something AA-related during the podcast was about this, though.
Did they do that during the latest episode? Still gotta listen to it; I know that Project X turned out to be Xenoblade Chronicles.
No, it was a few months ago, when Hiroko opened the episode by shouting "Objection!" Granted, it might not mean anything, but since I'm pretty sure there was no actual discussion of AA in the episode, it seems like a weird thing to throw out randomly.
Good to see this announced so early, but yeah, shame that this hints pretty strongly that we're not getting DGS. Still going to hold off a bit longer on the off chance that it may still come over before importing (plus I honestly don't have time to play through an AA game in Japanese again right now anyway. AAI2 took like 80-90 hours for me or something crazy, IIRC. Though of course my Japanese has improved a good bit since then, but still... these are some text heavy/focused games...)
hersheyfan
Member
Ace Attorney 6 in English! :-D
Wonderful news, want a physical copy of this so bad.
I also really want Dai Gyakuten Saiban, but I've gotten so used to getting disappointed by Capcom that I'll take what I can get at this point. If that's all they can manage, no Objections here.
Wonderful news, want a physical copy of this so bad.
I also really want Dai Gyakuten Saiban, but I've gotten so used to getting disappointed by Capcom that I'll take what I can get at this point. If that's all they can manage, no Objections here.
What? Are you saying that the localization for Apollo Justice was announced at Tokyo Game Show, a convention aimed primarily at the Japanese audience? If not, then you realize that Ace Attorney 6 has been announced today for TGS 2015?
It was, I remember it clear as day.
AAI2 is the best damn game in the whole franchise. Not even PW3 holds a candle. It trumps in everything. Characters, story, settings, evidence, literally everything
Sumio Mondo
Member
Echoing many people's sentiments here with the last vestiges of hope for a localisation of The Great Ace Attorney slipping away
But I guess more Ace Attorney is better than nothing.
Eh. Out of the two, I'd prefer we got the more original AA game from the creator of AA (Shu Takumi is da gawd), personally, but that's just me.
The date I'm finding for the announcement of Apollo Justice's North American localization is November 9, 2007.
TGS 2007 took place on September 20th to the 23rd.
TGS isn't the place to get English localization announcements, and especially not in the case of DGS where Capcom has stated that we'll be getting NA release news "soon" for AA6.
Yeah, I've only played the AA games directed by Shu, so I really, really hope DGS becomes localised as well
He's the only one who can create magic in AA properly being the creator and all...
If only I had saved it to my computer back then. But I remember very specifically an English logo was revealed at Tokyo Game Show back in the day. I guess 3DS isn't dead yet
NegativeCero
Banned
Woot! Need to get to 5, but great news.
...or perhaps release it later (like how Ace Attorney 5 came out before Layton VS Wright).
For the Japanese release, Puzzle & Dragons Z was already a game that existed, so throwing that in with Mario Bros. Edition 2 years later wasn't a big deal.
For North America... I'm sure the localization of that package doesn't even come close to the effort it would take for AA6 and TGS, being aesthetically a light RPG on one end and a Mario game on the other.
Have to stop bringing up Layton vs Wright. It's not semantics: two entirely different companies handled both games, each with their own unique release and localization methods and schedules.
I'm all for hope, but these aren't making logical sense. People will grasp onto it until the inevitable is right in their face, while I think we should face reality and try to change it now.
Hell yes. Can't wait to point the hell at shit!
Capcom's refusal to localize DGS is a little strange, since this series is about as niche a major series can be - a rabid fanbase that will absolutely buy everything, and a trickle of new buyers based on word of mouth. I really wouldn't think that it would sell that much worse than AA6.
But I'll take what I can get, deffo excited for AA6. I like the new setting - the hanging threads from AJ and DD aren't particularly interesting to me. That said, I hope they don't completely abandon the Apollo / Athena / Phoenix dynamic. That trio and how they interacted was one of the best additions from DD.
Capcom's refusal to localize DGS is a little strange, since this series is about as niche a major series can be - a rabid fanbase that will absolutely buy everything, and a trickle of new buyers based on word of mouth. I really wouldn't think that it would sell that much worse than AA6.
But I'll take what I can get, deffo excited for AA6. I like the new setting - the hanging threads from AJ and DD aren't particularly interesting to me. That said, I hope they don't completely abandon the Apollo / Athena / Phoenix dynamic. That trio and how they interacted was one of the best additions from DD.
Similar threads
- Locked