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[Spieler Eins]

I wouldn't be surprised if it did sell like crap everywhere. This was probably a quick and dirty game in terms of development time and cost, like Animal Crossing HHD. Whilst the latter has done well, I'm not sure Zelda will do too hot. Basically, Nintendo needed to pad out the release schedule, and all the heavy hitters have been released already.

Four Swords has already shown what's gonna happen. I guess they have blamed the awful gaming conditions/requirements for the disinterest on the previous game on GCN (although the multiplayer is still somewhat crippled in this title), but clearly, people everywhere simply don't care about Zelda Party. I imagine they could have easily made another SP title on lower budget with the ALBW engine too.

 

[Alrus]

The "zelda is completely dead" recurring talk is strange considering a Majora's Mask remake sold quite well earlier this year.

The series obviously shrunk in sale in recent years but calling it dead because of one mediocre looking multiplayer spin-off is a bit heh.

It's never been huge... And this game just seems like a quick thing they did to have a "Zelda" game in Q4 2015.

Series got multiple entries selling close or over a million in Japan. Let's not pretend Zelda wasn't a massively successful franchise at some point.

 

[tanasten]

The problem with Trifoce everywhere is due to being considered an Spin off. However, the game is awesome and should be selling like hotcakes! I hope that word of mouth makes the deal with the awesome game... and that Nintendo gives supports extending the game in the future with extra dungeons.

Really, the only thing that feels not in place as a Zelda game, it's the lack of interaction with NPCs. They really missed the opportunity there!

 

[Kresnik258]

Vita's holding okay. Better than last year until Phantasy Star Nova hit, at least. Wonder if Minecraft will make it a more desirable prospect during the holidays.

Sellthrough for Zelda is pretty low on Famitsu, guess it'll have holiday legs though. Also interesting that it's only the Vita version of Utawarerumono that's getting legs from the anime.

 

[Kid Ying]

06./05. [WIU] Splatoon <ACT> (Nintendo) {2015.05.28} (¥6.156) - 13.159 / 737.478 (-10%)

I mean on the superior tracker.

 

[Vena]

Also, PS4 has reached baseline. 20K average now.

Not yet. This is still expected decay. (Also this is a terrible baseline when all you've gained is 2-5k sales after a price-cut.)

Let me quote myself from last week:

Right. But right now, the trajectory is pretty much pointing right back to where it started from because we're only on week three of the cut (which is still when you have an upward shift from the norm) and are already at only 7k above the old baseline. That's bad.

Another 2-3k drop should be expected next week, and by the fifth week we are strongly looking at being right back to 18-20k, which is back to where the Bloodborne "soft-drop" was hovering, though sometimes dipping down to 14-15k. The release schedule just offers nothing to keep momentum of the price cut going in any meaningful way and, as can be seen from these charts, the software isn't exactly flourishing either.

If anything, we may just see it stabilize at the high point of the previous baseline.

It actually dropped a little more than I expected on week 4.

 

[Garou]

Is the 3DS able to get to 20m in the remaining weeks in Japan?
It would have to average around 87,5k/week to make it - but there isn't really a release left to drive sales for the holidays, right?

Monster Hunter X

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Although that still won't be enough for 20m this year.

 

[Cripshay]

Xbox One is one fire!

DontCallItAComeback.mp3

 

[ArkhamFantasy]

When does attack on titan come out?

 

[Scum]

Is already over 850k

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including digital

Should be 1.2/1.25 million by end of year.

Ah yes. Forgot about digital sales.

 

[Xbro]

Is the 3DS able to get to 20m in the remaining weeks in Japan?
It would have to average around 87,5k/week to make it - but there isn't really a release left to drive sales for the holidays, right?

Monster Hunter and Monster Strike.

 

[Takao]

I know this is partly due to a depressed market allowing 3k to chart, but GTA V's budget reprint is having impressive legs.

 

[Ryng_tolu]

I think this number doesn't tell us anything about Wii U baseline. The drop was expected. From now is about to increase.

Agree. like i said, i think Wii U will be at this level or a bit less for the nexts two weeks, then, is the bundle week.
Last year Wii U sold 14k with Mario Kart 8.
I think we will see >20k that week.

 

[Dystify]

Hmph, didn't expect / hope for such low numbers for Zelda... It might seem like a quick cash in, but IMO it's actually a really fun game. Hope more people will give it a try in the next weeks.

 

[Exterminieren]

Triforce Heroes is a cheap, low-effort spinoff almost exclusively using reused assets, willed into existence to bulk up 3DS's anemic, end of life software lineup.

Frankly, I'd have been shocked if it had been a success.

 

[Vena]

Triforce Heroes is a cheap, low-effort spinoff almost exclusively using reused assets, willed into existence to bulk up 3DS's anemic, end of life software lineup.

Frankly, I'd have been shocked if it had been a success.

By the definitions provided, any sales for this title are a success.

 

[Escalario]

I see PS4's sales are still going down. Looks like the pricedrop didn't do anything outside of the first 2 weeks. I say it will stop going down around 15k.

 

[deleted]

Monster Hunter X

Spoiler

Although that still won't be enough for 20m this year.

Monster Hunter and Monster Strike.

Oh, I forgot about that - that will at least make it interesting!

 

[Taker666]

This game will bomb everywhere. They should have done a normal game like OoX or MC for a quick buck and schedule filler, but certain people at Nintendo refuse to understand that not everything should become a party game and people don't want multiplayer Zelda period.

Indeed. They tripled down on the mistake with Metroid Prime:Federation Force and Animal Crossing : Amiibo Festival as well.

3 of the most boneheaded games Nintendo has ever approved. All 3 doomed the second they were commissioned.

 

[anexanhume]

Nice hold by PS4, but is everyone going digital mostly on it?

 

[Litri]

Triforce Heroes is a cheap, low-effort spinoff almost exclusively using reused assets, willed into existence to bulk up 3DS's anemic, end of life software lineup.

Frankly, I'd have been shocked if it had been a success.

Exactly, I wonder how cheap has been for Nintendo to make this game. Any money they make will be gold.

 

[1st Course]

Metal gear 600k

Zelda did ok

Splatoon, Minecraft, Yokai still holding well

Uncharted still in the charts

PS4 doing good

Decent week. Next week wil have God eater, should give vita a decent boost.

 

[Katana_Strikes]

I see PS4's sales are still going down. Looks like the pricedrop didn't do anything outside of the first 2 weeks. I say it will stop going down around 15k.

What? With no new releases its doing fine and will certainly be doing better than it would have been if they didn't price cut. It wouldn't be doing close to 20k+ a week without the cut.

 

[Sterok]

Oof for Zelda. Lower than I expected. Just keep in singleplayer. Pretty good for idols. PS4's hold is okay, so that's nice.

 

[Eolz]

Wow, that poor week.
How long has it been since WiiU was under 10k? First time since Splatoon isn't it?

 

[test_account]

PS4 will pass 1 million this year even without Final Fantasy 15. It might see growth or similar result next year due to FF15, DQXI and other titles, and perhaps another pricedrop.

 

[Vena]

Nice hold by PS4, but is everyone going digital mostly on it?

Used.

PS4 will pass 1 million this year even without Final Fantasy 15. It might see growth or similar result next year due to FF15, DQXI and other titles, and perhaps another pricedrop.

Not really all that surprising, and I think a lot of us have expected it since the soft-drop. It will depend on how it does, overall, during the holidays but it shouldn't be impossible to get decently far into the million.

 

[Dystify]

Triforce Heroes is a cheap, low-effort spinoff almost exclusively using reused assets, willed into existence to bulk up 3DS's anemic, end of life software lineup.

Frankly, I'd have been shocked if it had been a success.

Sure, what you're saying may be right, but I don't think they're very good reasons for why the game couldn't sell... I think it's actually much more important how fun a game is, rather than how much money/time was spent on creating it...

 

[Ryng_tolu]

Metal gear 600k

Zelda did ok

Splatoon, Minecraft, Yokai still holding well

Uncharted still in the charts

PS4 doing good

Decent week. Next week wil have God eater, should give vita a decent boost.

How is Zelda ok? :-|

 

[Chû Totoro]

my "expert" comments too

PS4 dropped less than I thought, nice.

MGS V is out of top ten for good it seems... even if people are buying PS4 !!!

Splatoon keeps going. It's going to be interesting to see numbers in the upcoming weeks.

Super Mario Maker may sell a lot during the holiday period too and if they push the game like they're doing with Splatoon each time there's new content it'll have legs for sure.

3DS will do 20M easily imo

Zelda doesn't sell a lot but it's a small "filler" type game. It's sad because it's a decent game in solo and a very good one in multi even if it seems short (didn't finished it yet so assumptions only here).

Chibi-Robo is definitely a mobile game now...

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maybe dead even for mobile plans

 

[NeonZ]

I still think they should have used a 3d Zelda engine for a project like this. Even with a top down game they still need fully modeled areas, differently from a Mario platformer. So, a 3d game only would add... ceilings.

The 3ds has OoT 3d and MM 3d, so it's not like they lacked assets compared to the top down view games (which had aLbWs). It just seems like Nintendo for some reason wanted to push 2d Zelda for portables, keeping the 3d games limited to rereleases.

 

[horuhe]

Last year Wii U sold 14k with Mario Kart 8.
I think we will see >20k that week.

Totally agreed, however. Maybe the bundle doesn't cross the 20k mark during its first week. I expect a little bit less, but relatively high in those terms. What is true is that Wii U has a great opportunity to sell quite well during holidays despite the bundle being more expensive each time.

 

[Effect]

I don't think multiplayer Zelda needs to or would naturally sell bad. How they went about it in Tri-Force Heroes though isn't the way to do it.

 

[Dargor]

Ps4 is really holding it, huh?

 

[1st Course]

How is Zelda ok? :-|

I thought it was 84k at first galance. Not sure how I read the 5 as 8.

Still the game is a spinoff and looks cheap, don't think anyone (inc nintendo) was expecting much from it

 

[test_account]

Not really all that surprising, and I think a lot of us have expected it since the soft-drop. It will depend on how it does, overall, during the holidays but it shouldn't be impossible.

I remember seeing some predictions earlier this year about it not being able to reach 1 million without FF15, but looking at more recent sales, its probably not that unexpected, true. Its just predictions though, hard to know exactly what will happen.

 

[anexanhume]

Used.

Thanks.

 

[Vena]

I remember seeing some prediction earlier this year about it not being able to reach 1 million without FF15, but more recently, its probably not that unexpected. Its just prediction though.

Dunno. Expectations tend to be pessimistic (and in general have been). I mean, just look at this thread right now, everyone was expecting some *big* drops on the PS4 and, instead, since a more normal drop occurred we're now talking about "impressive holds" or "dropping less than I expected" where, in reality, its just going through the motions of a price drop.

That or everyone is giving extremely pessimistic outlooks just so that the subsequent decay looks better in comparison.

 

[Ryng_tolu]

Totally agreed, however. Maybe the bundle doesn't cross the 20k mark during its first week. I expect a little bit less, but relatively high in those terms. What is true is that Wii U has a great opportunity to sell quite well during holidays despite the bundle being more expensive each time.

I think it will definitive sell better than last holidays.
It will be:
MK8 / Smash Bros VS Splatoon / Mario Maker
...Smash didn't even get a bundle and is released even on 3DS, and Splatoon is way bigger than Mario Kart. Mario Maker has strong legs too.
Will be easy up YOY imo.

I thought it was 84k at first galance. Not sure how I read the 5 as 8.

got it. Yeah, even 84k was not great, but surely better than this...

 

[Madao]

calling Zelda dead over TFH doing bad is as silly as claiming Mario is dead because Mario Golf flopped.

everyone knows this is a spin-off that only attracts the most hardcore Zelda fans.

i'm willing to bet that Skyward Sword was a bigger bomb in japan considering that was an actual mainline Zelda and whose LTD is lower than some other Zelda game's first weeks.

 

[KillerMan91]

PS4 will pass last years total sales next week (970k). From week 43 to week 52 last year PS4 sold 262k units so with similar sales totals for this year would be 1214k. Considering that PS4 will probably keep outpacing last years numbers for the rest of the year totals for this year will be probably somewhere between 1.3-1.4 million.

 

[ZSaberLink]

How is Zelda ok? :-|

Triforce Heroes opened a bit better than Four Swords Adventures on GC, so yeh it's ok. The hyperbole on Triforce Heroes is strong in this thread since people expect it to sell like a mainline Zelda lol. Also, the budget wasn't likely that large, so I'm sure they'll recoup their investment.

 

[Nirolak]

So looking at Nintendo's fiscal year documents, they list the following games for 2016 in Japan.

3DS:
1. Mario & Sonic at the Rio 2016 Olympic Games
2. Metroid Prime: Federation Force

Wii U:
1. Star Fox Zero
2. Mario & Sonic at the Rio 2016 Olympic Games

For Wii U, Zelda and Project Giant Robo are listed as TBA instead of 2016, so I'm guessing they're good candidates for also being on NX.

Obviously the Pokemon games are missing, but I get the sense they're all in on NX at this point, with probably only a couple of announcements left for their existing systems.

 

[Ryng_tolu]

Considering that PS4 will probably keep outpacing last years numbers for the rest of the year totals for this year will be probably somewhere between 1.3-1.4 million.

No way for 1.4 million. Maybe 1.3 million, but i still doubt.
Don't forget last year PS4 sold nearly 70k the week of Dragon Quest bundle, which is not gonna happen again.

I still expect 1.25 million for PS4.

 

[rpmurphy]

This game will bomb everywhere. They should have done a normal game like OoX or MC for a quick buck and schedule filler, but certain people at Nintendo refuse to understand that not everything should become a party game and people don't want multiplayer Zelda period.

Meh, I don't like Zelda games much except for the MP games, particularly because there's no overworld BS that takes away from me hitting the dungeons (which is the main appeal of the series to me). I've already put more time into TFH than ALttP and OoT combined. If this doesn't sell well, it doesn't matter much since Nintendo will always get around to making MP co-op games again eventually.

 

[test_account]

Dunno. Expectations tend to be pessimistic (and in general have been). I mean, just look at this thread right now, everyone was expecting some *big* drops on the PS4 and, instead, since a more normal drop occurred we're now talking about "impressive holds" or "dropping less than I expected" where, in reality, its just going through the motions of a price drop.

That or everyone is giving extremely pessimistic outlooks just so that the subsequent decay looks better in comparison.

I'm not sure if anyone here are undershooting their predictions if they believe that it would sell more. Then there probably would be more gloating i think, like "wow, i didnt expect to to sell that well!" etc. I sometimes suspect that pessimism and focusing mainly on negative things when it comes to certain brands can be due to bias though. Not always of course, but in some cases. But the market overall is also shrinking, so i cant really blame anyone if they have a bit pessimistic outlook when it comes to future sales.

EDIT: I added some text for clearification.

 

[omonimo]

Ps4 a bit better than expected but surely it's not something to be extremely happy. Unfortunately I don't think it's over yet. I'm expecting 15k per week. Home console are dead I have accepted this from awhile.

 

[Vena]

I'm not sure if anyone here are undershooting their predictions if they believe that it would sell more. Then there probably would be more gloating i think, like "wow, i didnt expect to to sell that well!" etc. But i do think that some likes to be pessimistic and focus mainly on negative things when it comes to certain brands due to bias though. The market in general has also gone down, so i guess that is also one reason if someone is pessimistic about future sales.

Well we've been all over the place this year in sales predictions. From 2m PS4 (YTD not LTD) to <1m, from Splatoon being lucky to sell more than W101 to >2m, etc.

We've been on one hell of a rollercoaster.

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Not that it really matters, the 3DS is the only thing actually keeping the software market afloat outside of mobile. Its kind of like the last loser battle everywhere.

 

[Nouzka]

Well we've been all over the place this year in sales predictions. From 2m PS4 (YTD not LTD) to <1m, from Splatoon being lucky to sell more than W101 to >2m, etc.

We've been on one hell of a rollercoaster.

Spoiler

Not that it really matters, the 3DS is the only thing actually keeping the software market afloat outside of mobile. Its kind of like the last loser battle everywhere.

I wonder, could PS4 sell over 2 million next year? It has some big games at least and price is lower.

 

[KillerMan91]

No way for 1.4 million. Maybe 1.3 million, but i still doubt.
Don't forget last year PS4 sold nearly 70k the week of Dragon Quest bundle, which is not gonna happen again.

I still expect 1.25 million for PS4.

Outside of that DQ bundle week PS4 sales were pretty crappy last holiday season. From week 43 last year it took to the week 50 that PS4 sold more than it sold this week . Even with that DQ bundle week PS4 will easily made up for it during other weeks this year. Maybe 1.4 million is tad high but it should hit 1.3 million.