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WB offering full refund on Batman: Arkham Knight on PC till the end of the year
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dunno, do Ubisoft offer refunds?
your not sorry you rushed the game when it was not ready you got greedy suffer for your crimes
The man is right. This is truely sad for the franchise.
Decade at least
Nvidia Inspector worked better than RTSS to me.
Eh, 60 FPS with drops is still better than a constant 30. The older batman games had frame pacing issues and FPS drops so this one pushing the same engine to its absolute limits means you're not going to get more than a constant ~50 fps with the best hardware on the market right now.
I hate drops, I need a locked framerate :-/
Anyway... I won't be playing this anytime soon.
semiconscious
Gold Member
thanks!...
Standard 1/2 refresh rate in inspector and 30 fps limit in rtss. Locking fps to refresh when vsync is on gives you a bit less input lag, try it out. It's a lot smoother than ingame vsync and limit options.
Adaptive 1/2 refresh + 30 fps limit gives me a lot of tearing, and if you remove the limit there's a lot of input lag and no more tearing, so standard 1/2 + limit works the best for me.
Set ingame to 60/90 fps limit and vsync off, so it doesn't conflict with rtss.
I'm not even able to reach 30 fps on high-end machine without heavy stuttering.
Basically no matter what settings, performance isn't satisfactory.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJPJHN_toh0
PC:
i7 3960X + 16GB DDR3 + GTX 970 on High
If you have a beast system the game runs stutter free, but the price of entry to that is pretty high. I played through the game and enjoyed it, it even ran better than Arkham City did on my older machine.
Eventually future PC system will be able to brute force the game without issues. At least we are not looking at NO PC version ala Red Dead.
Eventually future PC system will be able to brute force the game without issues. At least we are not looking at NO PC version ala Red Dead.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
Member
Why do I get the funny feeling that their solution to this will be to stop making pc versions?
You might want to clean install drivers with DDU or try reformatting your pc. I think there's something wrong on the OS side if all your temps are fine and the hardware isn't throttling. I've got a 4690k, 8gb ddr3 and gtx 970 and I can play it flawlessly at a 30 fps lock with everything on, but textures set to normal @ 3440x1440.
Delete all your old settings and let the new patch rebuild them. Run the game off an SSD as well, you basically brute force your way. 4 GB VRAM, put the textures on medium.
Despite the debacle, Arkham Knight is estimated to have sold almost half a million copies on the PC. WB isn't going to abandon the platform.
keltickennedy
Member
Man, Rocksteady's last Batman game and it goes down like this. Man...what a train wreck. It sure will be their most memorable one so far, but for all the wrong reasons.
Auto-Reply
Member
I doubt they will be going into detail (technical) with what they can't fix. But I'm very curious on what that is and why it isn't fixable even if I wouldn't understand the technical explanation.
They must have developed themselves into a corner early on and it would require a completely different designed engine to resolve those issues I guess.
I'm only speculating of course but if true I wonder how such a decision can be made in the first place.
Maybe similar to the missing splitscreen in Halo 5. You'd think game development would have less restrictions the more advanced it becomes, guess that is not always the case.
They must have developed themselves into a corner early on and it would require a completely different designed engine to resolve those issues I guess.
I'm only speculating of course but if true I wonder how such a decision can be made in the first place.
Maybe similar to the missing splitscreen in Halo 5. You'd think game development would have less restrictions the more advanced it becomes, guess that is not always the case.
FF Seraphim
Member
I am so god damn glad Steam has refunds now. Can you imagine what fuckery we would have to go through if it didn't?
TheRealJakoozie
Member
Huh. Wow. Hate to be that guy, but I haven't had any issues with it after the patch. I've played for about three hours, and I'm really enjoying myself. Playing the game mostly maxed out in 1440p,near constant 60 fps. Have no intention of returning it. (Does the two hour playtime limit still count?)
Jawmuncher
Member
This Batman Arkham Knight PC launch and relaunch better be disappointment of the year.
WhateverItTakes
Banned
Refund rejected by steam, even included a link of the community post. Any ideas?
Oldest Snake
Member
If Steam didn't have refunds WB probably would have never have pulled the game in the first place and now, 4 months after release most people would have likely forgotten about it and moved on.
Contest it. Their policy is to offer refunds for anything unless you're abusing the system.
Well, then good. Their absence will only enrich the presence of others.
It was likely automatically rejected based on your playtime. Contest it via a ticket (if you have to, that is; I'm not entirely sure how the refund system works as I've never used it).
There's a post on the steam community from valve saying they are working on a solution and please wait until they post it is fixed before submitting for a refund past the normal playtime limit.
Green Yoshi
Member
The streaming system is completely designed for the shared memory of the consoles and the middleware is not suited for ports. Exchanging the middleware and restarting the port would have been the only feasible solution.
So patches can never fix all issues.
Destiny is also available for PS3 and Xbox 360. So the engine can't be too wrapped around PS4 and One. I think they were too afraid of hacks and cheaters.
ashecitism
Member
updated the OP
your not sorry you rushed the game when it was not ready you got greedy suffer for your crimes
Not sure why people keep bringing up that quote. It doesn't make logical sense. A delayed game is not eventually good. A delayed game has a chance to eventually be good.
iceblade997
Member
Wow this just keeps getting worse and worse for them. Has this happened before on such a high profile release?
I mean it's not totally unexpected given the game still runs horribly seemingly for those with not that much VRAM especially, but still - you'd think they would've been more cautious with announcing a release date given how badly things went... Wow. Just wow.
I mean it's not totally unexpected given the game still runs horribly seemingly for those with not that much VRAM especially, but still - you'd think they would've been more cautious with announcing a release date given how badly things went... Wow. Just wow.
Don't use the in-game cap. Use RTSS.
WB probably concocting a Sony hack to take attention off them right now
THPS5 was bad but last I checked it didn't really have any hype behind it.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
I'm on the fence about trying for a refund. I probably would get shot down anyway since I got it with my GPU.
I wonder if WB would give me a different key?
I wonder if WB would give me a different key?
ss_lemonade
Member
Has it ever been explained how nvidia got that nvidia fx trailer running at a perfect framerate back then?
iceblade997
Member
Wasn't at least part of the trailer sped up?
PHOENIXZERO
Member
They might have had Steam's refund policy been in place a year ago but ACU's problems were across all platforms and good luck getting a refund from a PSN, XBL or retail, at least in the U.S.
That was debunked, IIRC.
gigantor21
Member
This is the worst handling of a big PC port I've ever seen.
- Port done by external devs rather than in-house
- Reports of litany of bugs ignored outright before release
- Performance issues are so bad that the game gets pulled from markets for months, only to showcase many of the same issues upon rerelease
- Dev announces that several issues will never be resolved...mere days after rereleasing the game
And all of this is in the wake of several piss poor efforts on PC by the same publisher on the same damn franchise. Yet they have the gall to say that they did everything in their power to do things right? If that were true it never would've gotten to this point in the first place.
- Port done by external devs rather than in-house
- Reports of litany of bugs ignored outright before release
- Performance issues are so bad that the game gets pulled from markets for months, only to showcase many of the same issues upon rerelease
- Dev announces that several issues will never be resolved...mere days after rereleasing the game
And all of this is in the wake of several piss poor efforts on PC by the same publisher on the same damn franchise. Yet they have the gall to say that they did everything in their power to do things right? If that were true it never would've gotten to this point in the first place.
"Won't someone think of the
I think the UE3 and its limits like all engines have is the core of the performance issue. Though afaik no one has ever come straight out and said it. devs prob thought lets throw in the batmobile and make it really fast and hope the codies can make it work in UE3. They prob pushed way past its 'spec' for game performance and 60fps being the sought after for PC. Now throw in Nvidia gameworks and then add on top memory being gobbled up and bingo you got a shitfest of a problem to try and patch. They simply pushing it too hard and only beast machines can do it justice but that is really only brute force that wins :/
Neuromancer
Member
This has to be the #1Giant Bomb Hottest Mess of the Year candidate right now. I can't think of anything that came close.
nextgeneration
Member
Yup, and what's just as alarming is the number of people who actually still bought this shitty ass product on pc. Consumers sure aren't helping their cause by supporting WB here. Sigh....
Cpt.Underpants
Member
So....you could get a refund regardless of when you purchased the game and time you spend playing it?
Or is it just for recent purchases?
Or is it just for recent purchases?