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The Frame Rate of Fallout 4 in Interiors is horrible [PS4]

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Lucreto

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I watched the videos in the OP and my standards must be low as I am completely fine with how those video ran.

PlayStation versions of Bethesda games usually suffer from far worse than framerate.
 

hwy_61

Banned
Finally watched the indoor video. The scope video is way more damning.

If you're looking for where the FR drops on the indoor video, its at the :09 mark.
 
Is the day one patch already out? I know people are playing before the street date, is it possible the day one patch could address some of this? The game went gold over a month ago, the build that's on the disc is probably antiquated by now.
 

funkypie

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I don't understand the need to buy a game from this developer at launch. Wait sometime for the game to be playable, wait for the mods that can improve it and at the same time it will be cheaper.
 

Red Hood

Banned
Hilarious, amazing customer support right there folks.

Well that's a good sign

This should be quoted in the OP lol

Yikes.

I guess this means not to expect massive patches like CDPR does?


Could be they have a policy regarding talking about games that officially haven't released yet? Isn't the day one-patch (or any other substantial patches for that matter) only available on, you know, the day it actually releases (10 November)?
 

Afrodium

Banned
Framerate dips don't bug me too much so I'm sure I can live with what's seen in the video, but it's becoming very clear at this point that this is a game worth sleeping on for a month or two until the major issues are patched.

Now it's up to what the reviews say tomorrow to decide if I'm willing to wait that long...
 

Syf

Banned
I just hope this shit isn't ignored in reviews. That looks brutal to play. Not surprising Bethesda would call it done though.
 
I'm curious as to where the 60fps or bust craze came from? I only like it in particular games and when I went to see certain movies that had it I couldn't take certain scenes too seriously because the actors moved too quickly. It feels slighty cartoonish to me.
skyrim at 60 fps is much nicer than skyrim at

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To people asking how this can happen in 2015:

You need to understand that resolution is will always scale on top of everything else.

Playstation 5 is not going to make this problem any less if they keep pushing the system to the brink with effects, shaders, animations and models that leave little for extra frames.

You cannot beat "low framerate". It's not a technical hurdle like you can get rid of jaggies or pop-up by using sophisticated AA, blur or increase the draw distance. framerates is always relative to how much you push it.


They've it since Xbox. Xbox 1 was going to be free 60 fps in everything. Bigger claims with PS3 and 360. Theoretically you could run Fallout 4 at 200 frames per second if you just dialed some of that shit down.

Is the shadows worth it? or their lighting engine? When I play games on PC, shadows is the first thing I reduce to make sure I never get below 60 FPS.
My feeling is that console gamers should be able to turn off these sorts of effects as well. It's dumb that gamers should have no control over this. Give them a option box that says "Disable Shadows" or let them reduce to medium or low quality.
 

Eusis

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Overreactions to frame rates and resolutions. That's definitely what this gem should be remembered for.

Is it a younger gamer thing? My teenage years were spent playing through 10-15 FPS games across Saturn, Nintendo 64 and PplayStatin and I loved them. Occasional dips from 30 and 60 in today's games is the videogame equivalent of first world problems.
I think a lot of us who are older also have little tolerance for FPS issues. I can see some of us being worse actually; back in those days you had to make huge concessions in order to create games with a larger scope, or games had to give up A LOT to actually be 60 FPS. The very next generation (nevermind PC gaming in the late 90s) brought in the baseline of 30 FPS with a lot of 60 FPS games so it seemed like these sort of issues SHOULD have been largely buried in the following generations, yet even a locked 30 FPS seems to be an issue for them. Comes off to me as possibly being too greedy for a bit of graphical oomph when it'd possibly be more subtle than not and when you have the resources to still make the game look great.

I don't know if this instance REALLY matters much but it would be nice at least to use a SCOPE FOR AIMING without the FPS screwing itself up.
 

K.Jack

Knowledge is power, guard it well
So glad I didn't bite on the GMG 20% off.

A game this ugly has no business running this bad.
 

Hoje0308

Banned
For paedophiles it's normal to abuse children, but it doesn't make it any less acceptable. And that's coming from a big Bethesda fan.

I understand your need for an analogy, but Jesus, you just brought child torture into the conversation to make a point about a videogame.
 

Rival

Gold Member
I'm really interested in how the Xbox and PC versions play. Still don't know what platform to buy it on. My brain tells me PC but my ass tells me Xbox or ps4 So I can sit on the couch and play on my65" tv. I guess I could hook the PC up to that. Hopefully any issues people are experiencing are fixed by patching. Shouldn't be a surprise to anyone that a Bethesda game may be experiencing issues.
 

rjinaz

Member
Could be they have a policy regarding talking about games that officially haven't released yet? Isn't the day one-patch only available on, you know, the day it actually releases (10 November)?

Yeah they likely have a blanket ban on any posts indicating you have played the game before release. Whether or not that is just is debatable but likely explains what happened there.
 

Chariot

Member
I'm curious as to where the 60fps or bust craze came from? I only like it in particular games and when I went to see certain movies that had it I couldn't take certain scenes too seriously because the actors moved too quickly. It feels slighty cartoonish to me.
Most games aren't movies. There is no benefit of having stable 30fps vs stable 60fps in gameplay, unless of course the developers don't manage to keep a steady fps rate.
 
Could be they have a policy regarding talking about games that officially haven't released yet? Isn't the day one-patch (or any other substantial patches for that matter) only available on, you know, the day it actually releases (10 November)?

permaban tho?
 
Press kits are PS4 afaik, based on a few tweets I've read and the leaked review.

pretty sure the press got all 3 copies. There was guy in the gone gold thread that said on friday that he has all 3 version and will be posting comparison videos and article on Monday after the review embargo lifts.
 
This sounds even worse lol

Keeping footage away from prospective customers.

I get the logic, but if this is releasing along with a day one patch that fixes potential known issues like this, then it isn't indicative of the final product, just what's on the physical disc/ initial download. They have a right to protect themselves.

You have to remember they're still working on the game even after its gone hold and the first discs are printed.
 
This whole thing is hostile as FUCK.

All I did was mention they took Skyrim from completely broken to playable and damn those responses. I'll just be over here.
 

Shpeshal Nick

aka Collingwood
I think a lot of us who are older also have little tolerance for FPS issues. I can see some of us being worse actually; back in those days you had to make huge concessions in order to create games with a larger scope, or games had to give up A LOT to actually be 60 FPS. The very next generation (nevermind PC gaming in the late 90s) brought in the baseline of 30 FPS with a lot of 60 FPS games so it seemed like these sort of issues SHOULD have been largely buried in the following generations, yet even a locked 30 FPS seems to be an issue for them. Comes off to me as possibly being too greedy for a bit of graphical oomph when it'd possibly be more subtle than not and when you have the resources to still make the game look great.

I don't know if this instance REALLY matters much but it would be nice at least to use a SCOPE FOR AIMING without the FPS screwing itself up.

I understand that and I guess maybe it's just a standard internet thing, but I don't get why it's always one extreme or the other with reactions. Almost exclusively hyperbole in one direction or the other.

We've even started bringing up peadophiles abusing children in this thread for fucks sake.
 

Wagram

Member
Made a thread in bethesda forum asking if this would be patched got instadeleted and i am permabanned xD

Baffles my mind how anyone could state this company cares one single bit about their customers. Constantly release games in a piss poor state, and stuff like this as well?

OP i don't know if you have ever played a Bethesda game before but this is NORMAL for a bethesda game....

Yeah it is normal, and that's because defenders and blind ass critics let this nonsense slide. If it was EA or Ubisoft everyone would be up in arms. They need to be reprimanded.
 
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