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Nintendo's reviews at an all time low for the past 10 years

Yoshi

Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
Considering they shat out Animal Crossing Amiibo Party, Chibi Robo and Mario Tennis just recently and PZ5 and Yoshi were (imo unfairly) shunned by reviewers, too, I'm surprised it's not so much worse than it is.
 

120v

Member
both of their systems are in their twilight years and they had two major delays. its just been a shitty year for nintendo in general... it happens
 

Rodin

Member
I really don't see Xenoblade X having a 90 metacritic rating.
Had you told me this in 2013, i would've laughed hard. Now, after seeing all the gratuitous hate the game is getting on the internet, i'll be very surprised if its metascore will be above 78-81. Luckily i don't give a damn shit about reviews, especially after last gen, so it won't really be a problem for me if reviewers will shit on my most anticipated game. Maybe then i won't like it, but i'll be the judge of that.

Yoshi (imo unfairly) shunned by reviewers.
Agreed.
 

redcrayon

Member
I'm always surprised at just how prolific Nintendo are, and how long-running some of their smaller franchises are. Mario Tennis has been around for what, over twenty-five years?
 

ReBirFh

Member
Considering they shat out Animal Crossing Amiibo Party, Chibi Robo and Mario Tennis just recently and PZ5 and Yoshi were (imo unfairly) shunned by reviewers, too, I'm surprised it's not so much worse than it is.

I would put Chibo Robo on the unfairly shunned too, it's a really nice platformer with solid controls.
 

Chronoman

Banned
Who cares. This does not take into account genre, who reviewed the game, anything. These numbers mean absolutely nothing
 

Sandfox

Member
If you told me this in 2013, i would've laughed hard. Now, after seeing all the gratuitous hate the game is getting on the internet, i'll be very surprised if its metascore will be above 78-81. Luckily i don't give a damn shit about reviews, especially after last gen, so it won't really be a problem for me if reviewers will shit on my most anticipated game. Maybe then i won't like it, but i'll be the judge of that.

A lot of reviewers seem to like the game so it should review fairly well, but we'll see.
 

TheMoon

Member
Considering they shat out Animal Crossing Amiibo Party, Chibi Robo and Mario Tennis just recently and PZ5 and Yoshi were (imo unfairly) shunned by reviewers, too, I'm surprised it's not so much worse than it is.

Might as well throw in Code Name STEAM being slaughtered at least in part by incompetent reviewers (yea, McElroy, shots fired :p).
 

Neo_Geo

Banned
When you have full priced shovelware like the two AC releases this year, you tend to look crappy in the review department. Hopefully the lukewarm reception of these two titles makes Nintendo put forth at least a tiny bit of effort before trying to extract $40-$60 from its users.
 

Qurupeke

Member
Yeah, the year is terrible. All the cool stuff is coming next year. Xenoblade X will hardly save anything. And I still remember 2010. Some great games.
 
Edge magazine
6.92 - 2015 - 12 titles
7.55 - 2014 - 11 titles
7.17 - 2013 - 16 titles
7.42 - 2012 - 12 titles
7.67 - 2011 - 13 titles
7.08 - 2010 - 18 titles
6.83 - 2009 - 16 titles
6.75 - 2008 - 15 titles
7.08 - 2007 - 22 titles
7.17 - 2006 - 20 titles

One more issue left which could change that. I could go back further if someone wanted but I got a bit bored.
 

JoeM86

Member
When you have full priced shovelware like the two AC releases this year, you tend to look crappy in the review department. Hopefully the lukewarm reception of these two titles makes Nintendo put forth at least a tiny bit of effort before trying to extract $40-$60 from its users.

Happy Home Designer has been well received. It's most certainly not shovelware.
 
I really think this is one of those pointless statistics.

As the average doesn't really matter, getting a bunch of 75's would then be better than a few 90's and a few duds.

I would rather have a few excellent games and some turds than just a bunch of mediocre stuff.
 

Kysen

Member
Corners had to be cut when Nintendo is the only one releasing software on that console. Gotta keep churning out software.
 
Its also a year where games like Codename STEAM, Kirby, and Yoshi got slaughtered by traditional outlets and are all excellent.

Also, stop including HHD in the apparent year end rushed titles. Game is great.
 

Fantastapotamus

Wrong about commas, wrong about everything
That's a weird way of saying "Nintendo sure put out a lot of shit games this year, huh?"
Weirdly enough as far as I'm concerned this is one of Nin's best years in recent history. Mario Maker is awesome, Splatoon is awesome and Yoshi is adorable.
 

Ridley327

Member
AND it's the year in which Other M released

averages across entire game libraries mean almost nothing
It's easy to forget that Other M reviewed pretty decently. It really wasn't until it was in the hands of gamers that you saw the vitriol and the retrospective articles about "hey, this did suck ass!" popping up a short time thereafter.
 

TI82

Banned
Its also a year where games like Codename STEAM, Kirby, and Yoshi got slaughtered by traditional outlets and are all excellent.

Also, stop including HHD in the apparent year end rushed titles. Game is great.

I'm not quite sure why people are including Codename Steam in a list of games that are hidden gems.

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redcrayon

Member
Corners had to be cut when Nintendo is the only one releasing software on that console. Gotta keep churning out software.
The OP stat is currently made up from the lowest number of software releases they've put out in a while though, I'd agree with you if they'd increased output by 25% and review scores had dropped in inverse proportion.

Even when you add in delayed titles and those yet to be released this year, it would still end up as about average in terms of number of titles released.
 

TI82

Banned
The OP stat is currently made up from the lowest number of software releases they've put out in a while though, I'd agree with you if they'd increased output by 25% and review scores had dropped in inverse proportion.

Even when you add in delayed titles and those yet to be released this year, it would still end up as about average in terms of number of titles released.

There's literally only 2 titles left from Nintendo in 2015. Pokemon Mystery Dungeon on the 3DS and Xenoblade Chronicles X on the Wii U.
 
Do this for other major publishers as well so Activision games can be averaged out with their licensed trash.

Its a bad metric.
 

Chastten

Banned
A minor difference, mostly because they put out some games everyone knew were gonna bomb to fill out their schedule before NX hits next year. Not really seeing an issue here. If this happened three years in a row, then something might be up.

Now, if your point was that they should've invested some of their Wii/DS-era money into getting some more developers onboard as to avoid this 'problem', then I'd agree with you.
 
A bad year for Nintendo games is reflected in the reviews, hardly a shocker.

They're clearly winding down in prep for the next console.
 

NotLiquid

Member
When two of the company's planned tentpole releases get postponed so that they don't have to be rushed, as well as one of the key titles released this year being less dependent on initial impressions as opposed to later impressions, it's going to look somewhat skewed of course. It is definitely a weaker year in general that is arguably compounded by Nintendo banking all of their chips in the preceding year when they had their biggest hitters. It's a loss that they can afford to take at the moment though.

It's a rather boring statistic regardless. Xenoblade, Paper Jam and most likely even smaller titles like FAST Racing Neo are bound to bump up the Metascore average by a few clicks to hit the 70s range. Although it still constitutes roughly five points lower than an average, it's not necessarily emblematic of a bigger issue.

I will say I got a laugh out of the oxymoron in the thread title.
 

phanphare

Banned
and they still managed to release the Game of the Generation

also lol @ "all time low for the past 10 years"

you could be a games journalist with that headline!
 
Do this for other major publishers as well so Activision games can be averaged out with their licensed trash.

Its a bad metric.
Activision would score bad because of Tony Hawk 5.
I am curious what Microsoft would have scored. They had a great year as publisher.
 

massoluk

Banned
I'm not even going to defend this as a big fan of their games. The overall quality of their games slipped hard this year even with stellar titles like Splatoon. Usually for me, it's just "Oh, a Nintendo game, automatic buy." Not this year, nope.
 
2010 really was the last amazing year from Nintendo all around, no lies detected. Even more so with actual 3rd parties, both DS and Wii were great that year. Ever since then, the best you could hope for was only their handheld not sucking.
 

Chronoman

Banned
Nintendo is still arguably publisher of the year this year even with some of the misses they had. They had 3 GOTY contenders.
 
The first two mystery dungeon games were stellar IMO, but they reviewed very poorly. If Super Mystery Dungeon is anywhere as bad as Gates to Infinity, I doubt it'll put a dent in that average.

Looking forward to seeing how it does though.
 

KingBroly

Banned
If Star Fox wasn't delayed, I doubt Mario Tennis would've come out this year. Amiibo Festival probably would have come out because of the amiibo, but I feel like there would've been less pressure to put it at a $60 price point. It's still not what people wanted, though.
 

TheMoon

Member
Its also a year where games like Codename STEAM, Kirby, and Yoshi got slaughtered by traditional outlets and are all excellent.

Also, stop including HHD in the apparent year end rushed titles. Game is great.

Yup, this.

Even ACAF I keep hearing more and more people say it's actually fun to play as a board game. Though it's clearly nothing to write home about.
 

ASIS

Member
I think it's fitting that 2015 is the worst in10 years. Seems completely deserved. I mean yeah there were some good/great games this year but nothing at all like 2014 or even 2013.


2010 though... 0_0 daaaaamn, and people said Wii was a critical flop.
 

Chronoman

Banned
With different reviewers reviewing all the games, when you say they had the lowest reviews in 10 years, the numbers mean absolutely nothing.
 

Sandfox

Member
The first two mystery dungeon games were stellar IMO, but they reviewed very poorly. If Super Mystery Dungeon is anywhere as bad as Gates to Infinity, I doubt it'll put a dent in that average.

Looking forward to seeing how it does though.
I think the new game is supposed to be a lot better, but I'm sure sure if that'll reflect in the score.
I think it's fitting that 2015 is the worst in10 years. Seems completely deserved. I mean yeah there were some good/great games this year but nothing at all like 2014 or even 2013.


2010 though... 0_0 daaaaamn, and people said Wii was a critical flop.

Anyone who calls the Wii a critical flop is insane.
 

maxcriden

Member
Some Nintendo games got unfairly wrecked in reviews this year. Triforce Heroes really had a messy reviewer setup from what I understand, with online MP being a mess for reviewers to get set up with. So that's really Nintendo's fault I guess, though I'm not sure what a good solution would have. been. Sigh. It's such a wonderful game, too. Then stuff like Stretchmo gets pretty much ignored, BOXBOY! also.

Considering they shat out Animal Crossing Amiibo Party, Chibi Robo and Mario Tennis just recently and PZ5 and Yoshi were (imo unfairly) shunned by reviewers, too, I'm surprised it's not so much worse than it is.

Oh. YWW is another one. I can't imagine how a reviewer could give the game anything less than an eight in good conscience.
 

ZeroX03

Banned
I was going to take the bait, and then I saw who posted this thread.

Some years slump. It happens to Sony, Microsoft and the other publishers too. With Nintendo it's just especially obvious as their first party titles have a bigger burden.
 

ASIS

Member
With different reviewers reviewing all the games, when you say they had the lowest reviews in 10 years, the numbers mean absolutely nothing.
If you want to take the numbers for accurate analysis in relation to quality, maybe. But I think for around estimation on the critical reception of their games I think it has enough merit to discuss it.
 

Danthrax

Batteries the CRISIS!
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Data derived from

And yes, I know that 2015 isn't over yet. But there are only two titles left for 2015, Xenoblade Chronicles X and Pokemon Mystery Dungeon.

So, let's assume both will match the scores of their previous titles (which Xenoblade is unlikely to do given import impressions) that would give us a +149 for total score (90 theoretical for Xenoblade, 59 theoretical for Mystery Dungeon) and a 29 for total hardware in 2015.

Which leaves us with 70.2 average, still the lowest in the past ten years. Just some food for thought, could be because the extremely low software output this year or because of low quality titles such as Amiibo Festival and Mario Tennis.

Devil's Third?
 

Chronoman

Banned
If you want to take the numbers for accurate analysis in relation to quality, maybe. But I think for around estimation on the critical reception of their games I think it has enough merit to discuss it.

I do not. Especially when a bunch of games got delayed, they still had a TON of excellent titles this year. Both in the US/EUR and in Japan.
 
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