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Media Create Sales: Week 46, 2015 (Nov 9 - Nov 15)

First Week is not that important here, since MHX is releasing during the best week of the year (for being benefited by Holiday boost).
MHX LTD numbers might eventually be higher than MH4G.

Btw, wasn't Famitsu MHP3 first week numbers higher than the shipment reported by Capcom?

honestly i don't remember... but it might be cause the only accurate tracker is Media Create, isn't? ;)



meanwhile even at Book-Off Shinjuku Splatoon (28) is doing better than Mario Maker (24) :D
 
I'm not saying it's impossible to make a successful game on a low budget. I'm saying that making a shameless knockoff with a seemingly lower budget is a good recipe to not reap the same success. I know Grand Knights History and Grand Kingdom (Inafune would be proud) share a common director, but MonoChro is no Vanillaware in terms of presentation.

Shameless knockoff might still sell well if audience is there - of course we're talking about a niche market which can be satisfied even by selling 35k units or so.

I really wouldn't call it low production values though. The game is one of the better looking titles on 3DS....

3DS_DisneyMagicalWorld_04_mediaplayer_large.png

That's a bullshot, but yeah the game definitely doesn't have low production values, it's a big game. Nothing at all surprising about its sales. Run for Money on the other hand, now that would qualify.

Playing the game didn't scream high production values to me. Graphics is nice because it's colorful but nowhere near one of the best looking games on 3DS. Gameplay is simple and quite limited - lots of contents though.
 
PS4 version of Grand Kingdom seems AWOL in every chart, though.

excuse me, but what does AWOL mean ? :D

english not my first language as you probably already noticed :)


UPDATE : found it on urbandictionary, ok, copy that


yes, I noticed on Tsutaya (didn't pay so much attention to weekly COMG tbh), but did the friday report say PS4 version was selling better or I just confused it with some other game? by the way, too many releases last week, indeed
 

hiska-kun

Member
The bomba of the week without any doubt is Animal Crossing. YSO predicted like 65k first week (I don't remember exactly). But with this position it might not sell even 20k.

The shipment seems to be big lol

yes, I noticed on Tsutaya (didn't pay so much attention to weekly COMG tbh), but did the friday report say PS4 version was selling better or I just confused it with some other game? by the way, too many releases last week, indeed

I think you're confusing with Atelier Sophie, PS4 version sell-through was better than the other Skus.
 
yes, I noticed on Tsutaya (didn't pay so much attention to weekly COMG tbh), but did the friday report say PS4 version was selling better or I just confused it with some other game? by the way, too many releases last week, indeed

First Day Sell-Through {2015.11.19}

[PSV] [PS4] Grand Kingdom <RPG> (Spike Chunsoft) (¥6.998) - 20-30% if it doesn't move this holidays, bomba bins by New Year's Eve

No mention of which version was selling better, I guess maybe a large PS4 shipment dragged down the % for the Vita version or something? Hard to believe they were both 20-30% if the Vita version is selling some and PS4 version is selling none.
 

horuhe

Member
Didn't notice Animal Crossing even on Rakuten until some more positions down. The amiibo stuff must have sold more its first day than the game itself during a week, lol.
 

Chris1964

Sales-Age Genius
The bomba of the week without any doubt is Animal Crossing. YSO predicted like 65k first week (I don't remember exactly). But with this position it might not sell even 20k.

The shipment seems to be big lol

Average from YSO was 45k. It won't be very far from that number. If it doesn't rise at holidays the problem is on retailers they ordered so much.
 
third party games average "sales target" from Jan-Dec 2015
(excluded "million class" titles)

"sales target": provided by video game companies to the buyers, high "sales target" = high promotion budget.

3DS 60K
PS4 50K
PS3 40K
WiiU 40K
Vita 25K
Xb0 -
PSP -
X360 -

http://blog.livedoor.jp/kisarazumax1250/archives/46987963.html
http://blog.livedoor.jp/kisarazumax1250/archives/46971166.html
What is this magical third party support for Wii U, did I miss something here?
 
I think you're confusing with Atelier Sophie, PS4 version sell-through was better than the other Skus.

you're right, and as I said, too many releases this week, easy to get confused :D


First Day Sell-Through {2015.11.19}

[PSV] [PS4] Grand Kingdom <RPG> (Spike Chunsoft) (¥6.998) - 20-30% if it doesn't move this holidays, bomba bins by New Year's Eve

No mention of which version was selling better, I guess maybe a large PS4 shipment dragged down the % for the Vita version or something? Hard to believe they were both 20-30% if the Vita version is selling some and PS4 version is selling none.

According to Tsutaya only Grand Kingdom PSV charted, it's slighty above Disney Castle 2 so it might have sold around 20k (optimistic) 15k (pessimistic)
Obviously if they shipped 100k it's easy to think I can find it into the Sofmap basket during 2016 week 1 :D

but also I think japanese attitude maybe has changed a little in the latest years: sometimes first day sales don't represent the real sales we have by the end of the week, I mean, some years ago a lot of people waited in line on D1 to buy a game, now seems like they also like to go shopping during weekend, even if lines are still popular for big event releases (MH,DQ,YW)
 

Kid Ying

Member
Well there are technically a good # of releases from Namco, at least in 2014. Sure, a lot of these barely if at all chart, but they do exist.
In 2014 there were 13 3rd party releases for the system (16 if you count two Monster Hunter frontier expansions and an all in one dragon quest x release). Of them, only Taiko tokumori and Zelda Musou sold above 40k for the console and kamen rider summonraide, watch dogs and zumba fitness didn't chart at all in any tracker.

This year, there will be 8 3rd party releases (again, 13 if you count 3 monster hunter frontier expansions, one best price Puyo puyo tetris and one All in one package for DQX) and so far only Dragon Quest X version 3 sold above 40k, but Taiko and Youkai watch dance will probably surpass it too. Disney infinity 3 and Lego Batman are the ones who didn't chart in any tracker.

And nintendo is the publisher for just dance games in japan.
 

OhMyGod

Neo Member
Bandai Namco Group invested 4 billions yen to Broccoli, publisher of the otome game Uta no Prince-sama series, become its largest shareholder with more than 25%. Broccoli rose more than 20% today.

Uta no&#9734;Prince-sama 13,054
Uta no&#9734;Prince-sama Repeat 147,246
Uta no&#9734;Prince-sama Debut 93,307
Uta no&#9734;Prince-sama All Star 114,618
Uta no&#9734;Prince-sama All Star After Secret 73,358
Uta no&#9734;Prince-sama MUSIC 90,378
Uta no&#9734;Prince-sama MUSIC2 94,437

Uta no&#9734;Prince-sama MUSIC3 will be release on Vita, 20160128
 

ZSaberLink

Media Create Maven
In 2014 there were 13 3rd party releases for the system (16 if you count two Monster Hunter frontier expansions and an all in one dragon quest x release). Of them, only Taiko tokumori and Zelda Musou sold above 40k for the console and kamen rider summonraide, watch dogs and zumba fitness didn't chart at all in any tracker.

This year, there will be 8 3rd party releases (again, 13 if you count 3 monster hunter frontier expansions, one best price Puyo puyo tetris and one All in one package for DQX) and so far only Dragon Quest X version 3 sold above 40k, but Taiko and Youkai watch dance will probably surpass it too. Disney infinity 3 and Lego Batman are the ones who didn't chart in any tracker.

And nintendo is the publisher for just dance games in japan.

Wow... I didn't even realize Disney Infinity 3.0 released this week. It didn't even sell 833 units on any platform? That makes Rise of the Tomb Raider sales look relatively good lol o_O.

50./30. [WIU] LEGO Jurassic World (Warner Entertainment Japan) {2015.11.05} - 833 / 3.068 (-63%)....

If I'm not mistaken that's a ton worse than even the first Disney Infinity... I wonder why...
 

Vena

Member
If I'm not mistaken that's a ton worse than even the first Disney Infinity... I wonder why...

Because Nintendo/L5 offer a better product. I say that in jest, but its also what my friend has said with toys/games for her little brother. Yokai-Watch is enough, and Amiibo cover the toys to life well enough with Smash and other games.

The conditions have changed since DE1 launced, and the brand hasn't exactly been strong anywhere as a game, has it?
 
Playing the game didn't scream high production values to me. Graphics is nice because it's colorful but nowhere near one of the best looking games on 3DS. Gameplay is simple and quite limited - lots of contents though.

I wouldn't say high production values, but it's definitely not low. It's on the higher end of AA handheld games. The majority of the games on the 3DS are AA and could have been done on PSP with little to no changes. Disney Magical World is one of the better-looking third-party games.

The only third-party games on the 3DS that I can think of that have high production values are games made by Capcom, some of the Dragon Quest games, and sort-of Level-5.
 

Xbro

Member
There was an issue with the last update on this, here's the newest.

5 days from release:

[3DS] Monster Hunter 4 - 3495pt
[3DS] Monster Hunter 4G - 2399pt
[3DS] Mosnter Hunter Cross - 2466pt
 

ZSaberLink

Media Create Maven
There was an issue with the last update on this, here's the newest.

5 days from release:

[3DS] Monster Hunter 4 - 3495pt
[3DS] Monster Hunter 4G - 2399pt
[3DS] Monster Hunter Cross - 2466pt

Looks like Cross took the lead over 4G again in terms of comgnet preorders. Interesting. Anyways, I figure we'll see them both sell similarly at launch at least.
 
I wouldn't say high production values, but it's definitely not low. It's on the higher end of AA handheld games. The majority of the games on the 3DS are AA and could have been done on PSP with little to no changes. Disney Magical World is one of the better-looking third-party games.

The only third-party games on the 3DS that I can think of that have high production values are games made by Capcom, some of the Dragon Quest games, and sort-of Level-5.

Some other Bandai Namco games looks quite neat - such as One Piece: Unlimited World R, Tekken 3D and Ace Combat.

Square Enix, Capcom, Bandai Namco, Level-5... After all, those are the third parties that you would expect investing in handhelds, and they offered big projects on the 3DS.
 
Looks like Cross took the lead over 4G again in terms of comgnet preorders. Interesting. Anyways, I figure we'll see them both sell similarly at launch at least.

No, it's just whoever was copying the COMG numbers from banned site didn't do their homework, MHX has been ahead the whole time :p

Should stay ahead as well, although the day MH4G got like 160 points might be troublesome.
 

hiska-kun

Member
Tsutaya's Report

- As it was expected, Star Wars Battlefront was the best seller this week. It sold almost the same that Battlefield Hardline PS4 and PS3 version combined sold in March. Next month the movie is released, and a new rebound is expected.
- Atelier Sophie for PSV and PS4 faced some stock problems during the weekend.
- Sumikko Gurashi for 3DS sold 3 times more than the last entry. It was a long seller, and this version is expected to have good legs too.

For next week, a big opening is expected for Monster Hunter Cross. Also, Christmas shopping season starts, a great following month is guaranteed for this game. Pre-orders already surpassed the MH4G (MH4U).
 
Tsutaya's Report

- As it was expected, Star Wars Battlefront was the best seller this week. It sold almost the same that Battlefield Hardline PS4 and PS3 version combined sold in March. Next month the movie is released, and a new rebound is expected.
- Atelier Sophie for PSV and PS4 faced some stock problems during the weekend.
- Sumikko Gurashi for 3DS sold 3 times more than the last entry. It was a long seller, and this version is expected to have good legs too.

For next week, a big opening is expected for Monster Hunter Cross. Also, Christmas shopping season starts, a great following month is guaranteed for this game. Pre-orders already surpassed the MH4G (MH4U).

Nice, so around 30k?
 

Chris1964

Sales-Age Genius
Tsutaya's Report

- As it was expected, Star Wars Battlefront was the best seller this week. It sold almost the same that Battlefield Hardline PS4 and PS3 version combined sold in March. Next month the movie is released, and a new rebound is expected.
- Atelier Sophie for PSV and PS4 faced some stock problems during the weekend.
- Sumikko Gurashi for 3DS sold 3 times more than the last entry. It was a long seller, and this version is expected to have good legs too.

For next week, a big opening is expected for Monster Hunter Cross. Also, Christmas shopping season starts, a great following month is guaranteed for this game. Pre-orders already surpassed the MH4G (MH4U).

Media Create Sales: Week 12, 2015 (Mar 16 - Mar 22)

03./00. [PS4] Battlefield: Hardline <ACT> (Electronic Arts) {2015.03.19} (¥7.884) - 68.823 / NEW
07./00. [PS3] Battlefield: Hardline <ACT> (Electronic Arts) {2015.03.19} (¥7.884) - 28.976 / NEW

Famitsu Sales: Week 12, 2015 (Mar 16 - Mar 22)

03./00. [PS4] Battlefield: Hardline <ACT> (Electronic Arts) {2015.03.19} (¥7.884) - 65.189 / NEW <60-80%>
07./00. [PS3] Battlefield: Hardline <ACT> (Electronic Arts) {2015.03.19} (¥7.884) - 25.034 / NEW <40-60%>


Media Create Sales: Week 47, 2014 (Nov 17 - Nov 23)

13./00. [3DS] Sumikko Gurashi: Koko ga Ochitsukundesu <ETC> (Nippon Columbia) {2014.11.20} (¥5.184) - 11.656 / NEW <64,48%>

Famitsu Sales: Week 47, 2014 (Nov 17 - Nov 23)

13./00. [3DS] Sumikko Gurashi: Koko ga Ochitsukundesu <ETC> (Nippon Columbia) {2014.11.20} (¥5.184) - 10.301 / NEW <60-80%>


Media Create Sales: Week 41, 2014 (Oct 06 - Oct 12)

01./00. [3DS] Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate # <ACT> (Capcom) {2014.10.11} (¥6.264) - 1.446.289 / NEW <85,40%>

Famitsu Sales: Week 41, 2014 (Oct 06 - Oct 12)

01./00. [3DS] Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate # <ACT> (Capcom) {2014.10.11} (¥6.264) - 1.617.949 / NEW <80-100%>
 

hiska-kun

Member
4 Days Left for the Biggest release this year

Bic Camera will open earlier, at 7:00 a.m. this Saturday due to Monster Hunter X

The question this week is how big is the shipment of Animal Crossing Amiibo Festival and the other Amiibos, completely available (Shantae is sold out &#21697;&#20999;&#12428;&#20013;)

On the other hand, Splatoon Amiibos are completely sold out &#21697;&#20999;&#12428;&#20013;
 
Monster Hunter X will probably get quite a few of the famous "people waiting in line" fotos

(Shantae is sold out &#21697;&#20999;&#12428;&#20013;)
AmiAmi has it on backorder and another online shop needed a re-stock.
Guess it has a really small shipment. Amazon still has it in stock though

On the other hand, Splatoon Amiibos are completely sold out &#21697;&#20999;&#12428;&#20013;
They might end up as the best selling Amiibo in Japan.
 
I feel Nintendo is missing the boat for what concerns Splatoon's merchandising. It seems a quite popular IP among children and they would have been happy to receive some related products for Christmas - as Vinnk said. Amiibo are nice and all but they might not be able to satisfy children's thirst.
 

Sterok

Member
So what are the major reasons that Japan loves Splatoon a lot, so much that it's able to keep an entire system's sales up by itself? The character design? The aesthetics? Territory control instead of killing focused gameplay? Shooters have been around for awhile, and only now has someone figured out how to make one that heavily appeals here on its own merits (not riding on a popular IP like the Resident Evils).
 
I feel Nintendo is missing the boat for what concerns Splatoon's merchandising. It seems a quite popular IP among children and they would have been happy to receive some related products for Christmas - as Vinnk said. Amiibo are nice and all but they might not be able to satisfy children's thirst.

source ?

products popular among children : pokemon, youkai watch, minecraft
splatoon is more popular among teenager or 20-30, which usually is not the target for nintendo home systems (and that's one of the reason it's selling like hotcakes)
 

Xbro

Member
I feel Nintendo is missing the boat for what concerns Splatoon's merchandising. It seems a quite popular IP among children and they would have been happy to receive some related products for Christmas - as Vinnk said. Amiibo are nice and all but they might not be able to satisfy children's thirst.

source ?

products popular among children : pokemon, youkai watch, minecraft
splatoon is more popular among teenager or 20-30, which usually is not the target for nintendo home systems (and that's one of the reason it's selling like hotcakes)

He outlined the source in his post. I recall Vinnk saying it as well.
 
I feel Nintendo is missing the boat for what concerns Splatoon's merchandising. It seems a quite popular IP among children and they would have been happy to receive some related products for Christmas - as Vinnk said. Amiibo are nice and all but they might not be able to satisfy children's thirst.

At least they have other stuff besides Amiibo. Plush characters etc. Not the most merch but better than nothing.
http://slist.amiami.com/top/search/list?s_keywords=Splatoon&submit=Search&pagemax=40
 

L~A

Member
predictions

[3DS] Monster Hunter X (2 days) - 1.374.912
[3DS] Hardware (7 days) - 68.418

That sounds better than other predictions I've seen (especially 3DS hardware). Problem is, you can't really compare 3DS sales with the launch of MH4 and MH4U since MH4 was the first original mainline game on 3DS, and MH4U launched alongside the N3DS so any comparison is downright dumb.

68k sounds fine to me. Then again, I've been on full "lowered expectations" mode, lately, ha ha.

Tsutaya's Report
- Sumikko Gurashi for 3DS sold 3 times more than the last entry. It was a long seller, and this version is expected to have good legs too.

For next week, a big opening is expected for Monster Hunter Cross. Also, Christmas shopping season starts, a great following month is guaranteed for this game. Pre-orders already surpassed the MH4G (MH4U).

Hmm... I wonder if Sumikko Gurashi will be the first sleeper hit sequel to have as good legs as the original? Other similar titles on 3DS didn't perform as well as the original.
 

Xenoboy

Member
PREDICTION LEAGUE NOVEMBER 2015

Predict how much these titles will sell in the week (from Nov 23 to Nov 29):
[3DS] Monster Hunter X (2 days) - 1.631.000
[3DS] Hardware (7 days) - 83.000
 
Hmm... I wonder if Sumikko Gurashi will be the first sleeper hit sequel to have as good legs as the original? Other similar titles on 3DS didn't perform as well as the original.

The second Aikatsu game sold way better than the first one and with better legs, IIRC.
 

Ryng_tolu

Banned
That sounds better than other predictions I've seen (especially 3DS hardware). Problem is, you can't really compare 3DS sales with the launch of MH4 and MH4U since MH4 was the first original mainline game on 3DS, and MH4U launched alongside the N3DS so any comparison is downright dumb.

68k sounds fine to me. Then again, I've been on full "lowered expectations" mode, lately, ha ha.



Hmm... I wonder if Sumikko Gurashi will be the first sleeper hit sequel to have as good legs as the original? Other similar titles on 3DS didn't perform as well as the original.

A moment... 3DS predictions is for the intere month or only for the Monster Hunter week?
 
source ?

products popular among children : pokemon, youkai watch, minecraft
splatoon is more popular among teenager or 20-30, which usually is not the target for nintendo home systems (and that's one of the reason it's selling like hotcakes)

Vinnk mentioned this - he's teaching to pre-schoolers and said that Splatoon was becoming quite popular among them during Summer. I also think that Wii U has actually mainly bought by the typical Nintendo audience with kids on 3DS and that Splatoon was able to enlarge the market to a younger audience, but I don't have data to back up this.
 
Some other Bandai Namco games looks quite neat - such as One Piece: Unlimited World R, Tekken 3D and Ace Combat.

Square Enix, Capcom, Bandai Namco, Level-5... After all, those are the third parties that you would expect investing in handhelds, and they offered big projects on the 3DS.

That's true about One Piece: Unlimited World R, but Tekken 3D and Ace Combat look no better than PSP games.

As far as Square Enix go, it's really just Dragon Quest. Kingdom Hearts 3D also looks exactly like a PSP game and Final Fantasy Explorers looks worse, which is pretty crazy considering it has Final Fantasy in the title.

Capcom, with the two Resident Evils, Street Fighter and Monster Hunter, is the only studio truly taking advantage of the hardware. As far as Level-5 go, it'll be interesting to see (on-screen footage of) The Snack World.

The point is Disney Magical World is by no stretch of the imagination a game with low production values that shouldn't be expected to sell hundreds of thousands of copies. It's a damn fine-looking game for a 3DS AA title, and with all the Disney characters, the bundle and the marketing, Disney definitely hoped it would do very well.

A game with low production values is something like this:
sentouchuu-1.jpg


Not like this:
3DS_DisneyMW_011014_SCRN_09.jpg
 

Kid Ying

Member
Wow... I didn't even realize Disney Infinity 3.0 released this week. It didn't even sell 833 units on any platform? That makes Rise of the Tomb Raider sales look relatively good lol o_O.

50./30. [WIU] LEGO Jurassic World (Warner Entertainment Japan) {2015.11.05} - 833 / 3.068 (-63%)....

If I'm not mistaken that's a ton worse than even the first Disney Infinity... I wonder why...
No way to know. Disney infinity 1 never charted either. It only showed on those media create top 1000.

Although DI3 was multiplatform where DI1 was wiiu only, so maybe it sold more.
 
That's true about One Piece: Unlimited World R, but Tekken 3D and Ace Combat look no better than PSP games.

As far as Square Enix go, it's really just Dragon Quest. Kingdom Hearts 3D also looks exactly like a PSP game and Final Fantasy Explorers looks worse, which is pretty crazy considering it has Final Fantasy in the title.

Capcom, with the two Resident Evils, Street Fighter and Monster Hunter, is the only studio truly taking advantage of the hardware. As far as Level-5 go, it'll be interesting to see (on-screen footage of) The Snack World.

The point is Disney Magical World is by no stretch of the imagination a game with low production values that shouldn't be expected to sell hundreds of thousands of copies. It's a damn fine-looking game for a 3DS AA title, and with all the Disney characters, the bundle and the marketing, Disney definitely hoped it would do very well.

A game with low production values is something like this:
sentouchuu-1.jpg


Not like this:
3DS_DisneyMW_011014_SCRN_09.jpg

I completely disagree with you.

First of all - the fact that some games look similar to PSP counterparts shouldn't surprise you because PSP and 3DS are not that different tech-wise; but many of those PSP counterparts you mentioned were already AA or AAA games! For example, Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep; Dream Drop Distance is absolutely gorgeous and, in my opinion, one of the best looking games and with great production values (framerate is also quite nice, even with 3D) - way better than Birth by Sleep also considering the fast-paced action (i.e. FlowMotion) and more enemies on screen. Tekken 3D Prime Edition is a step above Dark Resurrection and 6 on PSP - with better effects and overall presentation. Dead or Alive Dimension is another AA game, in my opinion.

Capcom has also Ace Attorney, which graphics is ace.

Disney Magical World is to be expected to sell well because of the Disney label (even though we have seen how many Disney-labelled games bombed in Japan) - not because it's a high production values game (which is not)... which is completely fine since the target audience is mainly kids. It's also a quite limited game in the scope, with minuscole areas and repetitive gameplay (it's not Fantasy Life).

Also, nice try with the bullshot:

mdb.png
 

perorist

Unconfirmed Member
&#332;kami;186614273 said:
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New Photo Kano Kiss announced, Photo Kano Kiss School Star Dream!, for mobile devices not Vita.
This is just being made by the producer of Kimikiss and Photokano. The standalone title is School Star Dream and has nothing to do with either of the other series.
 
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