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Should Aquaman be Polynesian?

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Frog-fu

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In recent years the topic of diversity and representation of minorities has steadily become more ubiquitous in pop culture and public conscious. The response hasn't always been all positive. In fact, it never has. We need only look to the notable and all too recent backlash to John Boyega playing Finn, an apparently black stormtrooper in the Star Wars Episode VII. Unfortunately that was just one of many examples of backlash against diversity, and it's a rather interesting one when considering that the role of Finn was never ascribed a specific race when Boyega was cast. It was almost as mystifying as when vile parts of The Hunger Game fandom reacted with such unabashed racism when a black girl was cast for the role of a... black girl in the book.

As we move forward towards a more progressive society, I do believe the resistance towards diversity is gradually weakening, however, we still have quite some ways to go, especially in Hollywood - which, while it is trying (though arguably not hard enough), still produces films like Exodus: Gods and Kings and Gods of Egypt, i.e. films that wholesale whitewash the cultures they are based on from.

The unfortunate truth is that Hollywood will likely still be putting out films like that for quite some time to come, but like I said, they are trying, and of all the most recent attempts at diversity, I think WB/DC's decision to cast Jason Momoa as Aquaman is so damn fitting it's nothing short of a stroke of genius.
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It is the opposite of the Aloha whitewashing controversy. It makes sense to cast a Polynesian in the role of a character with such strong ties to the sea. Polynesian culture is thousands of years old and were at their roots an adventurous seafaring people with deep ties to the sea and highly developed navigation skills that served them well.

What I find almost just as surprising as what I would consider the perfect casting of Momoa, is the fact that the online response to Aquaman has actually largely been positive. It's certainly a stark constract from the notable examples of black actors playing white fictional characters met with vitriol, e.g. Michael B. Jordan playing Johnny Storm in Fox's latest attempt at rebooting the Fantastic Four and to a lesser extent Will Smith taking on the role of Floyd Lawton AKA Deadshot in DC's upcoming film Suicide Squad.

One could argue that perhaps it has to do with Aquaman's apparently lack of popularity. After all, he is the butt of the joke to even those who have never picked up a comic in their life. But then, if not mainstream conformists and racists, surely the most ardent comic book fans that like Aquaman would have some reservations and would make those heard? Well, I haven't heard any. And typically, anti-progressives and diet racists don't really care if they're invested in the property and are combative anyway, so... what gives?

It could be that casting Jason Momoa actually makes sense to them too, but my theory is that it's probably because Momoa, while Polynesian, still looks "white," or at least close enough to not be threatening, so it's not an issue. Though it could be for any number of reasons.

Point is, I am now convinced that Aquaman should be Polynesian both in films and the books themselves, and that that change would serve the character better and that DC would be better off for it in terms of diversity in Justice League lineup. Further, comments by Momoa himself are really what settled it for me:
The greatest thing for me is that Polynesians, our gods, Kahoali, Maui, all these water gods, so it’s really cool and a honor to be playing a [water] character. And there’s not too many brown superheroes, so I’m really looking forward to representing the Polynesians, the natives.”

Momoa continued, “My family are some of the greatest water men on earth. I’m not, but I’m going to go train with them. But it’s really an honor just being a Polynesian. And water is the most important thing in this world and we all know it.”

So, what say you GAF, do you think Aquaman should be Polynesian character?

Recommended reading:
- Why a Hawaiian Aquaman makes sense
 

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If a half-Latino man can play him, absolutely

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Could be? yeah sure. Should be? no.

He already is be. Jason Mamoa is Polynesian. Maybe even skim the OP.

Unless you meant Aquaman shouldn't be forced to be Polynesian in every iteration from here forward
 

marzlapin

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Yeah why not? They actually managed to make Aquaman cool by casting Jason Momoa in the role, which is quite the achievement.

But anyway there's nothing about Aquaman, or most superheroes for that matter, that requires a caucasian ethnic background. Also, new takes on an old character don't erase the older ones. Nothing is lost by casting more diverse people in roles like this.
 

Hagi

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If a half-Latino man can play him, absolutely

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He already is be. Jason Mamoa is Polynesian. Maybe even skim the OP.

No shit sherlock not like the big picture of Jason Momoa gave it away. I was answering to whther he should be in the comics.
 
Anything to make him less boring.

I never got this. I feel the comments are typically made by people who seem to love Batman and also condemn Superman for being dull. Always feels like the group with these complaints never really look at anything from the characters and judge them with little info to back it up.

http://imgur.com/gallery/ttjz6
https://www.reddit.com/r/respectthreads/comments/3mkyo6/respect_aquaman_dc_postcrisis/


Both these are fairly good at showing why he isn't so boring. Dude is basically underwater thor.
 

Ezalc

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I think it's pretty cool to make him polynesian. My problem is his boring ass costume, they need to make it actually have color or something because damn the whole bleak washed out look the DC universe is going for is so off-putting.
 
Absolutely genius casting, for all the reasons you mentioned.

It could be that casting Jason Mamoa actually makes sense to them too, but my theory is that it's probably because Mamoa, while Polynesian, still looks "white," or at least close enough to not be threatening, so it's not an issue.

Yes, this is the key, right here. He's relatively light-skinned and has features that could "pass" as Caucasian. He's multiracial himself, as are many Hawaiians.
 

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No shit sherlock not like the big picture of Jason Momoa gave it away. I was answering to whther he should be in the comics.

Yeah I figured it out and went back and edited it and was too late and you missed it and DAMMIT
 

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Don't know how I feel about an actor being able to "pass" as Caucasian and thus "non-threatening" being a plus

But I guess baby steps
 
Tangent: Amandla Stenberg was the best thing about Hunger Games. And she's been killing it when confronting and talking about racism in America. She's going to do great things in life. So much wisdom for one so young.

And I think Momoa is the perfect casting choice for Aquaman. Like whoever thought of it needs ALL the raises, cause she or he is a bloody genius.
 
Could be? yeah sure. Should be? no.
Should be, yes. Aquaman being white was always weird and just part of institutional history. 1940s was when it was 90% white in USA and before civil rights, so there was no fight for minority representation. Either way, pacific islanders make more sense for the character than this comic version who looks like a fucking joke.
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Should be, yes. Aquaman being white was always weird and just part of institutional history. 1940s was when it was 90% white in USA and before civil rights, so there was no fight for minority representation. Either way, pacific islanders make more sense for the character than this comic version who looks like a fucking joke.
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Oh god, I love this iteration of Aquaman. 100%. It's just God-tier.
 
Visually and symbolically I'm happy with the approach, the tattoos in particular. Any and all complaints on his casting are about his lack of pure blonde hair and its significance to the Aquaman mythos. He has blonde streaks going on and we'll see if it's even part of his character in this adaptation.
 

Hagi

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Should be, yes. Aquaman being white was always weird and just part of institutional history. 1940s was when it was 90% white in USA and before civil rights, so there was no fight for minority representation. Either way, pacific islanders make more sense for the character than this comic version who looks like a fucking joke.
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I didn't even know he had a squid butler, how cool. I think his back story is perfect to put him as any race really.
 

Savitar

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Remember when Aqualad was revealed to be black for the Young Justice cartoon and people called him, what was it, Blaqulad? Until they watched and were cool with it.

Yeah.

Old Wally West is still best though.
 
Should be, yes. Aquaman being white was always weird and just part of institutional history. 1940s was when it was 90% white in USA and before civil rights, so there was no fight for minority representation. Either way, pacific islanders make more sense for the character than this comic version who looks like a fucking joke.
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...is he really drinking coffee underwater?
 

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Remember when Aqualad was revealed to be black for the Young Justice cartoon and people called him, what was it, Blaqulad? Until they watched and were cool with it.

Kaldur was a damn cool character, and the fact that he has essentially been abandoned since Young Justice is one of the greatest injustices in the superhero comics industry.
 

Johndoey

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40's and 50's Aquaman comics are some of the best works of fiction ever made by human hands

Old comics in general are great for stupid bullshit.

Kaldur was a damn cool character, and the fact that he has essentially been abandoned since Young Justice is one of the greatest injustices in the superhero comics industry.

He's an Aqualad man that push was never gonna last.
 

Frog-fu

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Visually and symbolically I'm happy with the approach, the tattoos in particular. Any and all complaints on his casting are about his lack of pure blonde hair and its significance to the Aquaman mythos. He has blonde streaks going on and we'll see if it's even part of his character in this adaptation.

Surely the blond hair is a convention that can be done away with if not replaced by another trait that denotes his outsider status/cursed symbolism? I imagine that if Aquaman was made Polynesian they would retell his origins altogether.
 
I never got this. I feel the comments are typically made by people who seem to love Batman and also condemn Superman for being dull. Always feels like the group with these complaints never really look at anything from the characters and judge them with little info to back it up.

http://imgur.com/gallery/ttjz6
https://www.reddit.com/r/respectthreads/comments/3mkyo6/respect_aquaman_dc_postcrisis/


Both these are fairly good at showing why he isn't so boring. Dude is basically underwater thor.

The Super Friends cartoon ruined his reputation and the character hasn't been able to shake that off for years. The constant parodies and misconceptions didn't help either. Not to mention the edgy phase he went through during the 90s.
 

Dead Man

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Why would he be Polynesian? Isn't he from a separate culture? I have no problem with a Polynesian interpretation but a unique culture seems to make more sense to me.
 

Kittygirl

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Volimar: I think he should be Atlantean and should look like whatever the actor that portrays him looks like.
To be fair, Momoa did become an Atlantean in SGA. Also, he was raised in Iowa, not in Hawaii. He moved there as an adult to get to know his paternal family.
 

Johndoey

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Why would he be Polynesian? Isn't he from a separate culture? I have no problem with a Polynesian interpretation but a unique culture seems to make more sense to me.

Generally speaking Aquaman grows up on land with his father so the culture would make a difference in his upbringing.
 

braves01

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Yeah, but imo it's offensive using minorities as a marketing gimmick like this. Just spend the money and creative effort towards making an original Polynesian superhero instead of having B-tier white superheroes wear minority costumes.
 
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