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Sequel films you feel are superior than the original
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A true masterpiece...
This was my answer.
To whoever posted Rocky IV - you should be ashamed of yourself.
We actually have a member here who was the Japanese Studies equivalent.
Don't even know where to begin with this thread. My god. A Rocky sequel being better than the original? I cannot.
Although I love all three LotR films, Two Towers is by far the weakest of the trilogy. The entire middle of the movie drags with the "Aragorn is dead oops no he isn't now watch Liv Tyler cry" section being a particular standout. The Helm's Deep battle makes up for it, but the other two films flow much better.
Although I love all three LotR films, Two Towers is by far the weakest of the trilogy. The entire middle of the movie drags with the "Aragorn is dead oops no he isn't now watch Liv Tyler cry" section being a particular standout. The Helm's Deep battle makes up for it, but the other two films flow much better.
hey_monkey
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Vote for a another Dreamworks animation movie
On board with many of the responses, but cannot agree with this one. Nope.
This is my favorite among the trilogy and I feel is the strongest. It just had perfect stuff in it. It has establishing moments of Sauron's control, Saruman's power, the whole struggle, everything. While RotK felt like it had two longwinded fights and FotR was more about establishing stuff, this one manages to get both and do with them flawlessly.
I could not disagree more. I find it the most boring and drawn out of the 3 movies by far. Fellowship to me is easily the best of the trilogy. It has the best pacing and manages to feel epic without having to rely on a massive battle to do so.
DontBeThatGuy
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There's one thing for sure though, Weekend At Bernie's 2 is definitely worse than the original.
Is it really common a thing? Anyway, share what sequel films you think that are superior to the first (or earlier) film.
Recently in my head are these three.
This is my favorite among the trilogy and I feel is the strongest. It just had perfect stuff in it. It has establishing moments of Sauron's control, Saruman's power, the whole struggle, everything. While RotK felt like it had two longwinded fights and FotR was more about establishing stuff, this one manages to get both and do with them flawlessly.
I simply cannot agree with this. Worst of the three. I mean it's a fine movie, but I can't say with any conviction that it's better than FotR.
Anyways...
Empire Strikes Back.
Dark Knight
T2
Cap 2: Winter Soldier
MI: Ghost Protocol
Aliens
ratcliffja
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Uh... that one was awful, while the first was excellent. That's a weird choice. I agree with Toy Story 2, though.Vote for a another Dreamworks animation movie
DontBeThatGuy
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Also, the first The Terminator is the best Terminator.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
I agree the first one is better, but I feel it got stuff you usually not found in sequels, like actually having a working romance without all the forced angst.
Not selling Fellowship short, since that's a great movie too, but I feel like the characters are far more fleshed out here, and Frodo and Sam in particular got much of their development here. And like I said, this has less tell more show feel since you do see stuff like how much widespread Sauron's control is, how big Saruman's forces are, etc.
But mind you I got my experience from EE.
The Lone Courier
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Lethal Weapon 2
Robot Pants
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My man.
Home Alone 2 - Better atmosphere, better gags, more ambitious traps - it's just a better movie.
This one wins. I LOVE this movie. Way more than the first too
Already Torn
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Two Towers is your favourite LoTR movie, so why do I even respond? Forgets Hobbits, has a way to long battle and doesn't do the spirit of the books justice. It foreshadows the godawful Hobbit movies.
Well argued.
Movie is at 91% at Rotten, so the general consensus does seem to say no to your judgement. And well, I liked the deeper characters, the surprisingly mature love relationships and the flight scenes which did not look like cheap 3D gimmicks anymore, but actually profitted from 3D.
Dr. Buni
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Yep.
Also Prisoner of Azkabam was better than the first two Harry Potter movies. It was also better than all following movies.
LeadenStride
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The Good, the Bad and the Ugly > For a Few Dollars More > A Fistful of Dollars
So it happened twice in this trilogy.
So it happened twice in this trilogy.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Yeah I honestly love the second film more.
Maybe because it really captured the Christmas spirit much more.
JumpJeff84
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Evil Dead 2
Godfather Part II
Empire Strikes Back
Breakin 2 Electric Boogaloo
Gremlins 2: The New Batch
Spider-Man 2
Aliens (controversial, but I prefer ten second by a tiny margin)
The Dark Knight
Oldboy (pretty sure it's the second in a trilogy)
Captain America Winter Soldier
Edit: oh yeah, Drunken Master 2 as well
Godfather Part II
Empire Strikes Back
Breakin 2 Electric Boogaloo
Gremlins 2: The New Batch
Spider-Man 2
Aliens (controversial, but I prefer ten second by a tiny margin)
The Dark Knight
Oldboy (pretty sure it's the second in a trilogy)
Captain America Winter Soldier
Edit: oh yeah, Drunken Master 2 as well
SpookyFries
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Yep, so much better than the original.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
The new movies as whole are much better than the old ones, I'd argue.
Discotheque
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The Road Warrior
T2
Aliens
X2
TDK
Dawn of Apes
Good the Bad and the Ugly
Cap 2
everything else is wrong. like Rush Hour 2? forreal? I loved it but man watch the first again, it's like 10 times better.
and Two Towers over Fellowship? hell nah.
T2
Aliens
X2
TDK
Dawn of Apes
Good the Bad and the Ugly
Cap 2
everything else is wrong. like Rush Hour 2? forreal? I loved it but man watch the first again, it's like 10 times better.
and Two Towers over Fellowship? hell nah.
anonymous_abc
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Come at me.
Not saying 1 is bad, I love 1 but I enjoy 3 more. 
used to love aliens and t2 over their first films. now i more appreciate the tighter focus of the originals and the tense atmosphere both had.
i came around on bttf2 and bttf the same way. back to the future is just a way better movie and hits every beat pretty much perfectly. the sequels are a lot of fun, and it's a solid trilogy, but they're not as endlessly rewatchable as the first.
i came around on bttf2 and bttf the same way. back to the future is just a way better movie and hits every beat pretty much perfectly. the sequels are a lot of fun, and it's a solid trilogy, but they're not as endlessly rewatchable as the first.
Already Torn
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It is fun with a vengeance, after all.
Come at me.
Not saying 1 is bad, I love 1 but I enjoy 3 more.
Thats the best quote they could find?
True Savior
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GoodCoffeeJoey
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Christmas Vacation
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Lord Virgin
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SmarmySmurf
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I heard his conviction was later overturned though, so that kinda disqualifies it.
You take that back! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxA6dgz8ipo
DontBeThatGuy
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Ernest Scared Stupid is the best Ernest.
Shambalakan
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I always wonder how lots of Alien fans prefer second movie to the first one!
UnforgivenTwin
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The Wrath of Khan. I'm not really much of a Star Trek fan,but I really enjoy this movie over The Motion Picture.
Mexican Sting
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So... You don't trust anyone then?
Fuck, I can't think of any other pair of films that are both so imbalanced in terms of underration and overration. Most Trek fans agree with you, I think, but The Motion Picture is a fucking masterpiece.
Also, Batman Returns is not only better, but it's also the best christmas movie.
Because the first one is a horror movie about rape and the second one is an action movie with the victim now taking revenge on her rapist.
Of course ultimately she fails, but while Ripley was pretty much helpless in the first movie, only trying to escape and staying alive. In Aliens she fights and people can identify more with that aspect.
DarkestLight
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One of my favourite films
Obvious and already stated but:
Godfather Part 2
Empire Strikes Back
Spiderman 2
Dark Knight
Wrath of Khan
Also OP technically Two Towers isn't a sequel. There's only one film/novel called Lord of the Rings that was chopped into three to make it more consumable to joe public size wise so all you're really saying is you liked the middle of the film more. Pedantic I know but it always annoys me when people don't factor this element of LOTR in when they talk about sequels, planning out story etc.
Love the Temple of Doom mention too. Completely wrong but nice to see preaching for the underdog!
Godfather Part 2
Empire Strikes Back
Spiderman 2
Dark Knight
Wrath of Khan
Also OP technically Two Towers isn't a sequel. There's only one film/novel called Lord of the Rings that was chopped into three to make it more consumable to joe public size wise so all you're really saying is you liked the middle of the film more. Pedantic I know but it always annoys me when people don't factor this element of LOTR in when they talk about sequels, planning out story etc.
Love the Temple of Doom mention too. Completely wrong but nice to see preaching for the underdog!
ZackieChan
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It's a bit like Gremlins and Gremlins 2. Two amazing films that are great for very different reasons.
House 2 is pretty awesome, but Richard Moll as the villain in the first is amazing.
Damn, now I want to watch them again.
Fallout-NL
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Bourne Identity is literally the worst example. The original was fucking awesome and then they ruined the sequels with poorly executed shaky cam bullshit.
bobawesome
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It was hard to pull off but somehow they did it, the absolute mad men.
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