1st Course
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How far does this chart go? I think MHX sales should be higher considering that it was in the eshop all time chart within its first/2nd day (if I remember right the ceiling was 140k to enter the chart).
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Media Create Sales: Week 51, 2015 (Dec 14 - Dec 20)
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How far does this chart go? I think MHX sales should be higher considering that it was in the eshop all time chart within its first/2nd day (if I remember right the ceiling was 140k to enter the chart).
http://www.amazon.co.jp/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0166FC9J2
Lol, Gundam Extreme VS Force is already over 40% off on Amazon Japan. Dumping time!
Lol, Gundam Extreme VS Force is already over 40% off on Amazon Japan. Dumping time!
I guess this is the last time Lancarse will get high profile work from Bandai Namco.
That cheap 2DS in addition to some of those 3DS software big hitters...2016 decline might not be as much as anticipated. Yokai Watch 3, new main DQ as well as Pokemon might happen next year - in addition to smaller titles like Joker 3, SMT4Final or MH Stories.
I completely forgot this was released. Huge bomba, must be the biggest of the month, coming from past Compile Heart games selling from 20k to 30k.
Refreshment.01
Member
i don't think the 2DS would be a significant factor in the overall performance of the device in 2016. Mostly an spike the weeks near the model introduction.
Past the 249.99 price tag, i don't think the price was a concern in regards to the system. After all the model Nintendo promotes and publicises the most is the LL and is this expensive model the one with the highest sells volume.
The only interesting thing to watch here, is what portion of the potentail user base was waiting for a dirt cheap modl. The thing is like 84 U.S. after all.
books.rakuten.co.jp/rb/13425880
On Rakuten is already 60% off. No need more words for this. This was the bombaholic Christmas.
It's part of a really low budget genre, so I doubt it can compete with the likes of #FE and Jojo's.
Moor-Angol
Banned
I just don't see the point to emphatize that the market leader system is selling a lot of software
where in the world and in the history of videogames the market leader system did NOT sell a lot of software ? It's the market leader, it's obvious software is selling good on it...
PS2 didn't sell a lot of software ?
PS1 didn't sell a lot of software ?
SFC didn't sell a lot of software ?
FC didn't sell a lot of software ?
breaking news : the nearly 20 milion system sold in Japan is selling a lot of software during winter holidays 2015 !!!!1!!!!
boiled goose
good with gravy
Wow that's cheap.
Is no 3d the only lacking feature? I would consider getting one in the usa for 80 bucks.
It did 6K on Dengeki charts, yeah. Not even Omega Quintet did that bad(9K fw) and it was on PS4 to boot.
Bad timing/month+saturation of DRPGs on Vita probably didn't help.
Pennywise83
Banned
It truly is. Some games had their 1st or 2nd best-selling week during Week 51, such as Sumikko Gurashi, Disney Magic Castle, Mario & Luigi, and the new Run for Money.
If it's sold directly from Amazon, it's...oh man.
*checks it*
Oh man, it's really sold directly by Amazon.co.jp, not by a third party store. Insane negative reviews as well.
Pennywise83
Banned
PSV can't really catch a break during holidays - 2012 was empty, last year Phantasy Star Nova, this year Gundam VS. Luckily, Minecraft will drive some newer audience.
Its not a significant factor alone but in combination with the software heavy hitters it will help the system through the year. Its easier to justify getting a cheap system to play a single game or as gift - especially if they introduce multiple attractive bundles like the west got with Pokemon or Yokai Watch.
From the looks of it, the Nintendo 2DS will only be available via those Pokémon bundles, so I doubt it'll have any significant impact on sales on the long term.
So yeah, I knew there was something "fishy" about that Monster Strike shipment. By the way, pretty sure the 1m announced includes download cards + Nintendo eShop sales, so Asia is probably even less than 50k.
So yeah, I knew there was something "fishy" about that Monster Strike shipment. By the way, pretty sure the 1m announced includes download cards + Nintendo eShop sales, so Asia is probably even less than 50k.
Out of interest do you think 3DS won't be the no.1 system next year then?
It will be close, depending on where the PS4 peaks. That being said, I don't think this holiday has been especially promising for the PS4 after the price drop normalized out. We had weeks (and I pointed this out) where the system barely moved as the holidays kicked in which every other system was making strides northward. This week is similar but the system got a kick in the rear from Fallout 4.
Of course, what comes early next year as we enter the Feb/March slaughtering grounds and usual Playstation family 'post holiday bump' cycle, things may change. But I think we'll be seeing, next year, mostly what we saw this year in the later half with the PS4/3DS within spitting distance of one another. But the 3DS has far more *major* software coming next year.
I just don't see the point to emphatize that the market leader system is selling a lot of software
where in the world and in the history of videogames the market leader system did NOT sell a lot of software ? It's the market leader, it's obvious software is selling good on it...
PS2 didn't sell a lot of software ?
PS1 didn't sell a lot of software ?
SFC didn't sell a lot of software ?
FC didn't sell a lot of software ?
breaking news : the nearly 20 milion system sold in Japan is selling a lot of software during winter holidays 2015 !!!!1!!!!
??? I don't see what you are saying is contradicting what he said here?
3DS is the only system able to sell tons of software this gen. Is that something wrong?
It will all depend on PS4 receiving their big title and when NX drop. If NX drop 2016, u can bet that NX will cannibalize 3DS sales a tons.
1st Course
Member
30% drop wouldn't be too bad if the NX is indeed released next year.
Refreshment.01
Member
By now, when we talk about 3DS, we should be talking about the "New" revisions. With this in mind there are several other differences besides the 3D effect. RAM, CPU, Extra buttons (ZL and RL) and the C stick. i think the Wireless chipset has received an upgrade also.
Regarding the 3DS potential performance and line up. At the least, the software battery hints at a latter unveil than most people anticipate and a late year release date for the NX.
i think that the potential early yet "big" announcement coming from Nintendo (leaving Mobile aside) would be the implementation of it's new account system, in case is applicable to the Wii U platform.
DarkLordMalik
Member
What's the reason of this negative reaction? No MP? Terrible game?
Change from 2 v 2 fighting game into some kind of hybrid musou game which is not as good as the real musou game. No online. No Free Play. TONS of missing character.
Jarod McChicken
Member
Big lack of content in general seems to be the main problem, from Siliconera who translated some of the bad reviews.
frankie_baby
Member
The Nintendo eshop charts include download card sales too while famitsu counts them as retail
KratosEnergyDrink
Member
3DS or NX.
Looking at this years sales it is pretty possible that ps4 will lead the market next year. 3ds decline and ps4 increase will make the streams cross.
The actual gap will be determined by NX presentation reveal, price, launch lineup and release date. The more NX will be actually present on the japanese market, the less the 3ds will sell.
And even being successful I dont think that it can beat the 3ds and especially the ps4 ytd, so I am confident ps4 will lead the market next year
1st Course
Member
Now it makes more sense.
Well, let's calculate it out.
I'll assume 2.2 million for the 3DS this year for a nice even number. If it declines by 20 to 30 percent, that would give us to 1.54 to 1.76 million.
For the PS4, I was expecting something like 1.5 to 1.8 million, but with the price cut I could imagine 100K having been moved forward into 2015 for 1.4 to 1.7 million instead.
Those overlap pretty heavily. If the PS4 wins, it would be a pretty marginal victory primarily caused by Nintendo transitioning platforms one year later than ideal as opposed to a real showing of strength from the PS4 in my opinion.
I'm expecting around a 50% hw decline for 3DS. That's about the range of decline it's been showing already outside of the New 3DS launch spike time frame.
If it drops 50%, then yes, it would definitely not be the #1 platform of the year.
Sounds reasonable enough. Pretty sad state of affairs if the no.1 platform for the year doesn't even sell 2 million though...
Well if PS4 gets FFXV and DQXI in the same year and doesn't sell well we can probably start the funeral procession.
ZSaberLink
Media Create Maven
They pretty much were selling it for that price. You could get a 2DS packaged with a game (this year was Youkai Watch, 1st year was Pokemon) for $99.
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Anyway, random thought, but wouldn't both a handheld and console nx releasing next year be competing with each other? Wouldn't Nintendo avoid that
We dont know what they are, but if they're two separate devices, wouldn't they want it to be spaced out a little? I still say Wii U wont be the one replaced next year.
Anyway, random thought, but wouldn't both a handheld and console nx releasing next year be competing with each other? Wouldn't Nintendo avoid that
We dont know what they are, but if they're two separate devices, wouldn't they want it to be spaced out a little? I still say Wii U wont be the one replaced next year.
Well that depends how symbiotic they are.
Either way the sooner the Wii U is replaced the better IMO.
At the end ♯FE was unable to return to the comgnet preorder chart, the Fortissimo edition ended up with 8 points at best with no clue on how the original did.
The game only showed up on the chart because a bunch of games released last Thursday, and from then until now it did not get a single point.
The game only showed up on the chart because a bunch of games released last Thursday, and from then until now it did not get a single point.
FreedomFighter
Member
I like to think they are the same device.
I really hope that's what Nintendo's doing with NX.
Don't disagree there, I'm just not sure I see it happening as soon as GAf would like. Maybe not November but I could see it releasing after q1
That would mean they would miss the holiday season though, which as you can see in this very thread is vitally important to Nintendo.
If the console nx came out in 2017 it would be for holiday 17 in my mind.
Of course we don't know anything about it still.
That means the Wii U would have to somehow manage another two years though. I mean it's possible but in my mind I'd expect them to avoid that at all costs.
Refreshment.01
Member
This is exactly was happening with the 3DS and Wii U already, specially in Japan.
If a person in Japan is very invested in Nintendo IP, they can get their fix with the 3DS alone. More so considering that at this stage, the lines between portables and Home console games are pretty much blured. This is stronger within Nintendo platforms since right now both of them share a similar concept (Dual Screen Gaming). i would even say that this concept is far better executed in the portable side.
Biggest benefits are less split in resources and a more even and constant flow of key games reaching the platforms in a given year.
So in the end, Nintendo sharing games between the 2 platforms (in a more profund way than before) could end up solving more problems than the ones it might cause to them.
Edit: Of course there will be breathing room between releases of the platforms but a smaller one posibly. Wii U just needs to last 2016, after that it's all extra and whatever 1st party software scraps (plus indi titles) are left to it in 2017.
Eolz
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Kresnik258
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I think Jojo holds that title. CH titles go for 20-25k FW and this is about 5k. Jojo went from 400k FW to 40k. It definitely cratered a hell of a lot more.
But yeah, shame about MeiQ. It's pretty impossible to find footage of online which is quite rare, even when I search for the Japanese game. People just aren't playing it. Oh well.
Vita has had some crappy holidays but I don't think Gundam Vs. is going to hold up this one, Minecraft is doing the heavy lifting all on its own.
Realistically, like you pointed out, Vita has only had one decent holiday season prior to this. 2012 was a disaster and 2014 only had Gundam Breaker 2 which came too late in the game to make a difference - PSN didn't do what it should have.
2013 had remodel and PSTV and then Final Fantasy to top things off just after the holidays. It's actually kinda impressive that Minecraft is helping Vita pull similar numbers to that year on its own. Goes to show that its the first time the console has had appropriate software for the holidays.