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Oculus Rift available for preorder for $599.99, shipping in March
- Thread starter War Eagle
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Eh?
Sorry mate, didn't intend for the comment to Come over as /s or anything
I read way more into that than I should, my apologies!
cheezcake
Member
Any software sold on the Oculus store is built for a set recommended spec which is an i5 4590 and a GTX 970. If you don't have hardware equivalent to that spec or better, none of that software will run well and you'll likely have a pretty bad experience.
So they will run Just not on like ultra?
I guess anyone interested in buying my parts I just bought a year ago. .. Already outdated
wanderingprostheyltite
Member
Forget about ultra at the recommended spec, to give you an idea of the demands of VR my pc is pretty much their recommended exactly and most games I run on a DK2 that provide quality options need to be set to medium or low to achieve 75 fps, and that's on a lower resolution than what CV1 provides, and that requires 90 fps! You really can't skimp here otherwise motion sickness will be a problem. Sim sickness is no fun, take it from me.
Obliterator
Member
Does anyone have some good interviews with Luckey / hands on with CV1 from CES?
I'm not doubting Palmer that they are selling at cost. The question for me is whether their cost is truly representative of the cost of this tier of VR (which Vive and PSVR seem roughly on par with) - and therefore PSVR and Vive will both be expensive too; or is OR more expensive for oculus to build because of other factors (not experienced in hardware manufacture for example) - which would give Sony and HTC som capacity to be lower cost and therefore lower price? Although HTC will likely want more profit from the hardware than either Sony or Oculus
I'm hoping on a lot of cold feet so I move up in line.
Buddy of mine just had a 2nd seizure from the Rift in 6 months (he works with one every day for some creative company). There's still so much we don't know about how prolonged use of VR affects the brain. Be careful peeps, take some major breaks, don't do the insane gamer hours with them on.
Obliterator
Member
Lots of things can cause seizures, including playing games on a normal TV.
ZehDon
Gold Member
Oculus may not be making a profit on the hardware, but their certainly not losing money either. The cost of the Rift would account for everything from the R & D, administration, manufacturing, hardware, assembly, delivery, advertising, etc. And there's nothing wrong with that. This is new tech, after all. The sticker shock comes from the pathetic messaging prior to the reveal, and the piss-poor way in which it was handled. How many high profile products have kept their price a secret until you were at the checkout?
HTC is anyone's bet, because their hurting financially, and the reaction to Oculus' price can't have made them comfortable about launching a device they've made no secrets about being expensive. I'm not banking on the Vive having a stellar launch at this point.
Sony, on the other hand, are in the perfect position to launch a consumer-friendly priced VR HMD. They can offset hardware cost with guaranteed software sales, thanks to the PS4. They're producing a cost-effective device, and have demonstrated with the PS4 that they understand competitive pricing is paramount. Their manufacturing muscle means they control huge portions of the supply chain, and they've got literally decades of experience in consumer electronics. US$399.00, with camera, moves, etc., is my bet.
Iced_Eagle
Member
Next time you start up any game, pay attention during the start-up load with all of the text, copyright, etc. On almost every game you play there is an epilepsy warning for exactly this reason. Not unique to VR, but applies to anything with a screen. Maybe it would make it worse due to proximity of the screen and percentage of view it takes up in case the developer has inappropriate flashing which could cause a seizure but I'm not a doctor.
That is currently how far they're backordered based on current pre-orders.
No, just going down in the preorder list.
It started in March and went further on, as people kept pre ordering.
The remote is just a tiny media control device (play, pause, iPod like control ring, etc) for content navigation in stuff you wouldn't use a full gamepad for.
Sevenfold
Member
Removal of Xbone controller and addition of two touch controllers?
$699/£620ish?
Only thing to consider is what the order/release gap will be like at that point (which could well be autumn.)
Different people's bodies react in different ways to things.
Sevenfold
Member
You've seen the flash photography warnings on the news. Pick any action game...
Ovek
7Member7
Nah thats the new estimated delivery date (including mine boo!). I expect (hope) that June orders will get bumped a bit when people cancel and manufacturing ramps over the coming months.
Dictator93
Member
Now shipping in June? Clearly, noone wanted VR at this price point.
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
I suggest people who want to know more about that tear down image and how the Oculus was put together should watch this talk. It goes into quite a bit of detail on the subject. They estimate about 200-300 individual parts. Here's the mechanism for just the IPD adjustment alone:
60 minute video? Won't have time to watch all that until after work later.
Dreamwriter
Member
Oculus Remote is for when you want to do simple things you don't need a full XBox One controller for, such as navigating the Oculus Home store, watching 360-degree videos, watching movies in a virtual theater, playing simple games that only need d-pad and a button. In part it's for people who would be overwhelmed by a full game controller (so for when you show VR to your grandma).
Alx
Member
Nobody knows how many copies they intended to produce per month, so "June" doesn't mean anything in terms of success. We don't know how many are preordered for scalping either.
Also it seems to have stabilized at June for the last two days, so the first wave of excitement is probably over.
After all my whining the past couple days, my account issues are finally starting to be resolved.
I started receiving the order history e-mails again, and my order history now shows price + shipping + tax.
The Oculus rep on Reddit said they're sorting out some further e-mail issues and then going to be re-sending order confirmations, assuming for the people like me who never received them.
I started receiving the order history e-mails again, and my order history now shows price + shipping + tax.
The Oculus rep on Reddit said they're sorting out some further e-mail issues and then going to be re-sending order confirmations, assuming for the people like me who never received them.
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
Takamura-San
Member
So I ordered yesterday and still no email. Any tips on to how to resolve this. Got a screencap of the final screen with the order number.
Dreamwriter
Member
Well, they only allowed 1 sale per person, and are canceling all sales by people who ordered more than one, so people buying them purely for scalping is going to be at a minimum. What you are seeing on eBay are mostly people who saw that a couple people paid a lot for a March preorder, so decided they could sell theirs that way too and then buy another later at retail.
They should be resending confirmation emails for people who never got theirs in the next few days according to the Oculus rep on Reddit.
I ordered within the first half hour and still haven't received mine.
You can open an Oculus Support ticket, but I did that about an hour after my order was placed and still haven't received an acknowledgement
It's 59.9 minutes long
I suggest people who want to know more about that tear down image and how the Oculus was put together should watch this talk. It goes into quite a bit of detail on the subject. They estimate about 200-300 individual parts. Here's the mechanism for just the IPD adjustment alone:
Great talk, I love hearing engineers talk about the challenges they've faced.
As always though, don't read the comments. Some of them made me legit angry.
boybrushdRED
Member
I wanted this tech to succeed but cant afford it to show my support at the moment.
Costs way too much to play Minecraft and Eve online. I'll be waiting for a hardware revision and lower price, and maybe more supported games that interests me by that time.
Costs way too much to play Minecraft and Eve online. I'll be waiting for a hardware revision and lower price, and maybe more supported games that interests me by that time.
Turin Turambar
Member
This is what gets me with consumer electronics. People boil it down to component cost and decide that it is the true cost that a device should be.
A complete ignorance around R&D, logistics, marketing and a whole host of intangible factors that lie outside of the barebones structure of the unit itself.
jabberwocker
Banned
Lol. What happens if Sony releases theirs for $400 with another box for processing. We already know it will cost less than oculus. The issue is that they price is high. But in the other side I think some of this may be to let the price be dictacted by market. Therefore reducing resellers. After the smoke clears price reductions come in.
Wrestlemania
Banned
Then I'm going to be questioning what it is that's different to allow them to reach that price point. The proof will be in the final products and their capabilities, it's far too early to make any judgement on this beyond "That's more than/less than/what I'm willing to pay".
They announced it in their blog, the news was covered by several news sites and we had at least one thread in neogaf about it, but yes, it's been pushed back.
I think this is one of those few rare occasions where the top tier as well as the entry tier pricing is more crucial than ever. Valve and HTC can utilize their R&D, production lines, games store etc. Sony can utilize their developer teams, platform, app ecosystem.
Dreamwriter
Member
I don't get your point. That's like asking "what if Sony releases a game console for $400, that's way cheaper than a $1200 PC." Entry-level hardware is cheaper (and Sony has a history of selling things for a loss).
jabberwocker
Banned
How much different is the oculus going to be though from ps vr? That's what I'm saying and as far as selling for a loss this isn't 2006.
plagiarize
Banned
Oculus will most likely offer notably better displays and optics and a 970 as a minimum means the graphics will be better on the high end Oculus titles than on PSVR. It's going to be a lot easier for people making a suitable game for PC to add VR support than it's going to be for people making PS4 games to do it, which is why almost everything announced for PS4 are exclusive titles.
With Oculus devs have to weigh up the cost of adding Oculus support to their games to see if it's worth doing or not. With PSVR you are either targeting VR or you are not. You can port that VR game to the PC too, to expand it's reach... but there aren't going to be many titles that have a VR mode on PS4. It's going to be one or the other primarily.
On PC, developers are targeting a good experience on something less powerful than an Oculus ready PC, so there is overhead to add Oculus support. PS4 games are targeting PS4 hardware, or are going to target PSVR.