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[paperboywriter]

You do not see the problem of police and politicians withholding information because they fear releasing that information will change the opinion of the people about an issue? This is pretty basic democracy and free press at work. Release the facts and do what the people want according with the existing laws. That in this case that information does not support your views is irrelevant.

the police is not the press.

 

[ClosingADoor]

the police is not the press.

They withhold information from the press so they can not report about it.

I don't see the problem when police and politicians don't want to release information about on-going investigations, to protect innocent people. Again, this is about alleged criminals.

Agree to disagree I guess. I think it is very strange to withhold basic information about crimes and criminals.

 

[DragonSworne]

How does the ethnicity help to determine that?



Then you are being naive. There has been violence against random migrants in the last few weeks. This is not about the specific suspects, but about protecting other members of these ethnicities.



I don't believe that. This might be the case with people who already had a racist world view, but not with normal people.



This is absurd. If the police issues a public search warrant, they will release all the necessary information. But this is a good example of how one news headline makes certain people assuming things which are not true.



I still don't see the problem. This was made to protect innocent people. There were massive amounts of criminal investigations happening behind the scenes. They did not ignore the crimes.



Really? Why exactly is it a bad thing? What is bad about protecting innocent people?

Why do you feel restricting basic information will keep people safe?

 

[paperboywriter]

They withhold information from the press so they can not report about it.


Agree to disagree I guess. I think it is very strange to withhold basic information about crimes and criminals.

so? poor press couldn't find find out. there was nothing they could do!

 

[ClosingADoor]

so? poor press couldn't find find out. there was nothing they could do!

I don't get what you are talking about.

 

[patapuf]

the police is not the press.

The police also aren't the ones that dictate what info gets released and what doesn't.

Withholding the information won't help minorities at all, they will be suspected of more crimes rather than less.

When politicians need to control the flow of information that tightly to keep up the narrative it doesn't exactly inspire confidence.

Edit: just read the tidbit about alleged criminals. Yeah, i would want to make sure i get it right when the situation is as tense as it is now too.

 

[Gemüsepizza]

Why do you feel restricting basic information will keep people safe?

This information led to people getting hurt. Also, this restriction is only temporary, during the investigation. Why do you feel the need to endanger innocent people because of this information?

The police also aren't the ones that dictate what info gets released and what doesn't.

Withholding the information won't help minorities at all, they will be suspected of more crimes rather than less.

When politicians need to control the flow of information that tightly to keep up the narrative it doesn't exactly inspire confidence.

Only by people who already had racist views. And I already explained how this is primarily not a "political" move, but a move to ensure the safety of the population. Why do you care more about politics than about the safety of the people?

 

[paperboywriter]

I don't get what you are talking about.

the police obligated to release a internally made decision to the press. there are not held to the standards of the free press.

 

[ClosingADoor]

the police obligated to release a internally made decision to the press. there are not held to the standards of the free press.

That is true, they are not held to those standards. But by refusing to release certain factual information regarding crime they do have influence over the reporting about it.

In any case, stuff like this does not help to improve trust between the public and police regarding these issues.

 

[paperboywriter]

The police also aren't the ones that dictate what info gets released and what doesn't.

Withholding the information won't help minorities at all, they will be suspected of more crimes rather than less.

When politicians need to control the flow of information that tightly to keep up the narrative it doesn't exactly inspire confidence.

Edit: just read the tidbit about alleged criminals. Yeah, i would want to make sure i get it right when the situation is as tense as it is now too.

no it doesn't, absolutlely true.

That is true, they are not held to those standards. But by refusing to release certain factual information regarding crime they do have influence over the reporting about it.

also agreed.

 

[DragonSworne]

This information led to people getting hurt. Also, this restriction is only temporary, during the investigation. Why do you feel the need to endanger innocent people because of this information?

Which innocent people got hurt because this information was released? The nature of the crimes was always going to cause people to react extremely.

But in situations of large volume of crimes being carried out by a group (that includes more than just ethnicity), restricting information protects the criminals and puts innocent people in danger. You can't apply individual crime procedures to these types of crimes. They aren't compatible.

When it's a group committed crime, there is no guarantee that you have everyone in custody. Any protection you give to the individuals in custody by withholding information to the public automatically extends to the criminals still free.

 

[nib95]

Don't know if this was posted in the thread yet. At least some titbit of goodness.

The Independent | Cologne attacks: American woman tells how Syrian refugees rescued her from New Year's Eve sexual assault

Some quotes from the article.

“I went into a kind of fighting mode, and kicked and hit and pushed until I got away,” she said. “I was getting really scared.”

That was when she was approached by a group of Syrian refugees offering help.

They formed a protective cordon around Ms Duncan to help her through the crowd, offered to phone her boyfriend and searched for him with her when she could not remember his number.

Among the group was Hesham Ahmad Mohammad, a 32-year-old primary school teacher who fled Aleppo and was celebrating New Year’s Eve in Cologne with other Syrian friends who have recently arrived in Germany.

He told the New York Times he was also frightened by the groups committing the attacks, saying they had “lost their minds” on drink and drugs.

“We keep hearing news about refugees all day: ‘They are bad people, they must go back to their home,’ ” he said.

“When I hear that in the news, I am sad. Because we know that there were bad boys and bad people. But the good people, nobody speaks about them.”

 

[ElTorro]

A problem with the intentional withholding of selected information is that it plays into the narrative of the right that the government and the media is intentionally withholding information. Not only does that undermine trust in the government's competence and honesty, it also motivates people to vote for right or far-right parties, since those are the ones who are perceived to be "speaking the truth."

I don't know what the actual impact of such events will be, but I am not very comfortable when I think about the next elections; especially if more such stories will emerge over the next months.

 

[ClosingADoor]

Don't know if this was posted in the thread yet. At least some titbit of goodness.

The Independent | Cologne attacks: American woman tells how Syrian refugees rescued her from New Year's Eve sexual assault

Some quotes from the article.

Good people like that should always be welcome. I hope we can help them building a new life here now their old one is destroyed.

 

[Kinyou]

It feels hard to not see politics within the restriction of information considering how every negative news about refugees hurt Merkel politically.

 

[nib95]

Good people like that should always be welcome. I hope we can help them building a new life here now their old one is destroyed.

Countless Syrians and refugee's attended the protests against sexism and racism yesterday, holding placards saying ‘No to Sexism, No to Racism’ and ‘#SyriansAgainstSexism’ etc. Refugees also gave out flowers to passers-by, and held signs saying: ‘We respect the values of German society’ and ‘We are all Cologne’. Hope these things are also getting coverage.

Germans and refugees protest sexism and racism in wake of Cologne attacks

Thousands in Germany protest racism, attacks on refugees

‘No to Sexism, No to Racism’: Syrian refugees hand out flowers in German protest

Also, these flyers are being handed out by the refugee's too.

Syrian refugees in Germany are handing out these fliers to condemn the attacks in Cologne

We, men from Syria, condemn in the strongest possible terms abuse against women and the attack and robberies on New Year’s Eve.
We regret that women were injured, physically and in their honour, we hope that they will recover well and soon from these attacks.
We hope that the perpetrators of these criminal acts will be found and punished.
Our cultural values were trampled by these crimes. Those values include respect for women and men, respect for bodily integrity, and respect for personal property.
We Syrians have come to Germany as refugees, because we want to live freely in this democratic society. We want to shape, to speak, and to live democracy.
We regret that the acts on New Year’s Eve have brought our group — a group of Syrians, a group of refugees and of other Arab or North African people — and our culture into disrepute.
We’ve fled an inhuman war, in order save our lives and our ability to remain human. We want peace and security and the opportunity to provide for our families through work.
We thank all the people in Germany, both women and men, for all of the help they have so far offered us.
We want to show ourselves worthy of your help. We remain united: Your values are our values.
Germany has done more for us than any other European or Arab country!

 

[tbd]

That's pretty inane, though. Everyone who is not an absolute fucking idiot knows it has nothing to do with race per se and not every Syrian or refugee is a potential rapist. At the same time nothing will change the people's mind that actually believe this.

It's a mere fact Merkel fucked up and Germany can't just "do" this, though. Stuff like this will only make people think with their emotions again and go "awww" when it's time to wake up. So I actually hope it won't get all too much coverage. We can get cozy and love each other after things actually got settled.

 

[Mrmartel]

It's really too bad about the Syrians getting the largest criminal label from these attacks, when the majority of suspects are from North Africa, Afghan, etc. From countries that have no refugees rights.

But again, the EU deserves the biggest blame and states governments do as well, for allowing anybody in. There should of been mass deportations of anyone not falling into strict refugee status.

 

[1.21Gigawatts]

I don't know what the actual impact of such events will be, but I am not very comfortable when I think about the next elections; especially if more such stories will emerge over the next months.

Everything right of Angela Merkels party is a possible threat.
But even though there is a lot of uproar right now, there isn't much to the right of the CDU/CSU.
I really don't see a scenario where a far right party could gain any meaningful traction in germany. They might be a little pain in the ass in some state parliaments for, but they won't gain any actual political influence.

 

[ElTorro]

Everything right of Angela Merkels party is a possible threat.
But even though there is a lot of uproar right now, there isn't much to the right of the CDU/CSU.
I really don't see a scenario where a far right party could gain any meaningful traction in germany. They might be a little pain in the ass in some state parliaments for, but they won't gain any actual political influence.

I am not expecting any kind of revolution either. But the AfD could end up being elected into several parliaments now that it has committed itself to a far-right agenda and is represented by lunatics like Björn Höcke. But there are probably more serious political situations in other European countries.

 

[El Topo]

It's really too bad about the Syrians getting the largest criminal label from these attacks, when the majority of suspects are from North Africa, Afghan, etc. From countries that have no refugees rights.

Well, no one ever said xenophobia was fair.

But again, the EU deserves the biggest blame and states governments do as well, for allowing anybody in. There should of been mass deportations of anyone not falling into strict refugee status.

All EU members deserve blame for not working on a proper answer for (mass) immigration. It's a problem governments have been ignoring for at least a decade. No one gave a shit when UN pleaded for more money last year (or really just the money that had been promised to them), the rest of Europe did not care when Southern Europe asked for help, no one bothered to properly set up plans to deal with mass migration. It's a problem that was ignored, because it seemed so far away.

 

[1.21Gigawatts]

I am not expecting any kind of revolution either. But the AfD could end up being elected into several parliaments now that it has committed itself to a far-right agenda.

They are at around 10%(nationally) according to the most recent polls.(conducted over the last few days)
http://www.wahlrecht.de/umfragen/
Since they are right now the only relevant far right party that would actually make the 5% hurdle this means its 10% right wing vs 85% "left wing".
I just don't see that as a threatening development. Especially since the 10% are in the light of the most recent events which benefited them surely.

I wish germany would shift more to the left so a SPD/Greens coalition could be a realistic scenario again because I'm sick of the great coalition(CDU/CSU/SPD) and I wouldn't want to see CDU/CSU in power on their own, but I don't think there is any danger of damaging right wing influence in germany.

 

[Forsete]

Source?

http://www.svt.se/nyheter/inrikes/8-av-10-poliser-overvager-att-sluta

25 november 2015

Så många som 8 av 10 poliser har funderat på att säga upp sig, det visar en ny undersökning. De främsta skälen är den låga lönen och den pågående omorganisationen.

Polisen har sedan den 1 januari i år jobbat i en ny, sammanslagen organisation istället för 21 lokala myndigheter. Men den nya organisationen gnisslar. De anställda både är missnöjda med arbetsmiljön och låg lön.

 

[quackamole]

How does the ethnicity help to determine that?



Then you are being naive. There has been violence against random migrants in the last few weeks. This is not about the specific suspects, but about protecting other members of these ethnicities.



I don't believe that. This might be the case with people who already had a racist world view, but not with normal people.



This is absurd. If the police issues a public search warrant, they will release all the necessary information. But this is a good example of how one news headline makes certain people assuming things which are not true.



I still don't see the problem. This was made to protect innocent people. There were massive amounts of criminal investigations happening behind the scenes. They did not ignore the crimes.



Really? Why exactly is it a bad thing? What is bad about protecting innocent people?

I see them failing to protect innocent people as it is. With all the sexual crime cover ups being brought to light, the last thing you want is MORE cover up.

 

[Calabria]

Left-wing political correctness has gone too far.

 

[magnetic]

Countless Syrians and refugee's attended the protests against sexism and racism yesterday, holding placards saying ‘No to Sexism, No to Racism’ and ‘#SyriansAgainstSexism’ etc. Refugees also gave out flowers to passers-by, and held signs saying: ‘We respect the values of German society’ and ‘We are all Cologne’. Hope these things are also getting coverage.

Germans and refugees protest sexism and racism in wake of Cologne attacks

Thousands in Germany protest racism, attacks on refugees


‘No to Sexism, No to Racism’: Syrian refugees hand out flowers in German protest



Also, these flyers are being handed out by the refugee's too.

Syrian refugees in Germany are handing out these fliers to condemn the attacks in Cologne

I'm happy to see this and I hope this happens more often. Those of the refugees who are actually thankful and respecting our values should raise their voice as often as they can, because otherwise people start to think they're just a made up idea of wishful thinking. It's easy to interpret silence as acceptance, so I'm glad they are speaking up.

 

[ClosingADoor]

So... this just came on the Dutch news. Just one journalist saying it, but still.

'German broadcaster had to report positively about refugees'
http://www.1limburg.nl/duitse-omroep-moest-positief-berichten-over-vluchtelingen?context=section-1

My translation:

Journalists of the German broadcaster WDR were told to report positively about the refugee situation.

This is according to Claudia Zimmermann, journalist for the WDR in Aken, who talked about it in radio show De Stemming (Dutch radio show in the province near the German border).

"There are multiple commissions tasked with making program policy and they have told the editorial staff to support the policies of the government." Zimmermann does not think this is strange. "We are a public broadcaster, we are paid for by tax money and that means we should report in line with the government and not the opposition."

[..]

According to the WDR journalist this positive approach was used especially in the initial phase of the so-called Wilkommenskultur. Since the massive assaults and robberies on New Year's Eve in Cologne reporting on refugees and migrants 'tipped'.

"Now we also give critical voices space," said Zimmermann.

I don't think she - and if this is true the people at that broadcaster - knows what independent journalism is. Just because you are a public broadcaster does absolutely not mean you should just get in line with the government.

I don't want to sound cynical but only the most naive person would believe they weren't paid and asked to do that, can't stand manufactured goodwill but I understand they need some good publicity since most of the crimes were done by other groups.

Do we have anything supporting that? Because until now I have never heard anything about people being paid to participate in protests like this.

 

[Agremont]

I don't want to sound cynical but only the most naive person would believe they weren't paid and asked to do that, can't stand manufactured goodwill but I understand they need some good publicity since most of the crimes were done by other groups.

Yeah because there's no way any of those people could actually be against sexual abuse right?

 

[purdobol]

Yeah because there's no way any of those people could actually be against sexual abuse right?

Quite the opposite. But the underlying problem still remains. Women have to behave in an subordinate way towards men. That's the foundation of their values. Even good behaving refugees/migrants believe that. Very good documentary about the issue.

 

[paperboywriter]

I don't want to sound cynical but only the most naive person would believe they weren't paid and asked to do that, can't stand manufactured goodwill but I understand they need some good publicity since most of the crimes were done by other groups.

who is paying them? wtf

 

[Scrooged]

Quite the opposite. But the underlying problem still remains. Women have to behave in an subordinate way towards men. That's the foundation of their values. Even good behaving refugees/migrants believe that. Very good documentary about the issue.

It continues to amaze me how the left and progressives consistently turn a blind eye to this fundamental part of Islam.

 

[El Topo]

I don't think she - and if this is true the people at that broadcaster - knows what independent journalism is. Just because you are a public broadcaster does absolutely not mean you should just get in line with the government.

Her statement sounds bizarre. I'd like some more information and/or clarification on what exactly she said though, because this seems like something that could easily be misinterpreted and/or badly phrased.

Edit:
While her approach to journalism might seem a bit...unorthodox in that article, the last two sentences (of the article) make the WDR issue seem a lot less serious. It's also not exactly shocking per se, given the way public broadcasting works. The question is always the extent of influence.

 

[Doczu]

So... this just came on the Dutch news. Just one journalist saying it, but still.

'German broadcaster had to report positively about refugees'
http://www.1limburg.nl/duitse-omroep-moest-positief-berichten-over-vluchtelingen?context=section-1

My translation:



I don't think she - and if this is true the people at that broadcaster - knows what independent journalism is. Just because you are a public broadcaster does absolutely not mean you should just get in line with the government.


Do we have anything supporting that? Because until now I have never heard anything about people being paid to participate in protests like this.

Really? It's like in Poland. The government has strickt ties with the public media (not that the private ones are totally neutral). It also happened (and still happens) in my country. But i'm really impressed she had balls of steel to say that out loud.

 

[Calabria]

I'm generally a democrat, but left-wing propaganda on this issue disgusts me....I can't stomach this PC garbage

 

[ClosingADoor]

Her statement sounds bizarre. I'd like some more information and/or clarification on what exactly she said though, because this seems like something that could easily be misinterpreted and/or badly phrased.

Edit:
While her approach to journalism might seem a bit...unorthodox in that article, the last two sentences (of the article) make the WDR issue seem a lot less serious. It's also not exactly shocking per se, given the way public broadcasting works. The question is always the extent of influence.

It doesn't go into detail, but even bringing something like this up is strange. Public broadcasters should not be an extension of the government, they should be independent.

Really? It's like in Poland. The government has strickt ties with the public media (not that the private ones are totally neutral). It also happened (and still happens) in my country. But i'm really impressed she had balls of steel to say that out loud.

Over here in Holland that would not go down well. If the government is going to influence what our public broadcasters would air in terms of news or demand they be more left or right wing, you can be sure they will speak up and demand the ones in charge to be gone quickly. Although we have some people distrusting the public media, their news programs are very independent.

 

[ElTorro]

Quite the opposite. But the underlying problem still remains. Women have to behave in an subordinate way towards men. That's the foundation of their values. Even good behaving refugees/migrants believe that. Very good documentary about the issue.

Yeah, I grew up in a community of people with predominantly immigrant backgrounds, and that kind of chauvinism towards women, puritan honor culture, and isolationism are very common; probably the norm. It's a real problem. The number one priority for how we deal with refugees, many of whom will probably become permanent residents, is to prevent that kind of regressive cultural isolationism.

 

[Agremont]

Quite the opposite. But the underlying problem still remains. Women have to behave in an subordinate way towards men. That's the foundation of their values. Even good behaving refugees/migrants believe that. Very good documentary about the issue.

Oh I don't deny that, It's the "they were paid to do so" I reacted too. I'm sure that, despite cultural issues, most immigrants find what happened in Cologne and other places to be a bad thing.

 

[El Topo]

It doesn't go into detail, but even bringing something like this up is strange. Public broadcasters should not be an extension of the government, they should be independent.

I agree, although I'm not sure if there is a public broadcasting system in the world free of political influence. The issue is that the underlying problems of the system might be amplified by the grand coalition though.

 

[Calabria]

new news?

Transgenders are stoned in Dortmand by North African migrants

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...et-by-north-African-teenagers-in-Germany.html

Three teenagers of north African origin have been arrested in Germany on suspicion of trying to stone two transgender women in the street, it has emerged.
The two victims, named only as Yasmine, 50, and Elisa, 37, under Germany privacy laws, came forward in a television interview to describe how the youths turned on them when they realised they were transgender.
“Within seconds they were pushing us around. It was only then that I realised what they were saying: ‘You sluts need to be stoned!'” Elisa told Sat1 television on Saturday evening.
“And that’s what they did. They grabbed gravel from the ground and threw it at us.”
“Before that they tried to hit on us. For them, that’s OK. But when they realised we were transgender, they felt their honour was hurt. That’s why they snapped.”

 

[Abinash117]

Quite the opposite. But the underlying problem still remains. Women have to behave in an subordinate way towards men. That's the foundation of their values. Even good behaving refugees/migrants believe that. Very good documentary about the issue.

Self segregation seems like it will be a big(bigger) issue in some of the European countries. I can see big cultural, racial, and ethnic issues playing a bigger role kind of like how it is in the US. Considering the the right-wing, migrant, and left-wing reactions including reactions from other European countries, it doesn't look like anything is going to get better anytime soon.

 

[Kinyou]

'German broadcaster had to report positively about refugees'
http://www.1limburg.nl/duitse-omroep-moest-positief-berichten-over-vluchtelingen?context=section-1

My translation:



I don't think she - and if this is true the people at that broadcaster - knows what independent journalism is. Just because you are a public broadcaster does absolutely not mean you should just get in line with the government.

Hm, seems like no one in Germany is picking up on this so far. I guess it's still relatively recent.

 

[CoolOff]

new news?

Transgenders are stoned in Dortmand by North African migrants

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...et-by-north-African-teenagers-in-Germany.html

We had a murder last year in Sweden where a trans woman had invited a 17-year-old kid (Vietnamese immigrant) home who when he found out he stabbed her to death. Same phenomenon as this really.

 

[maniac-kun]

Well if something happens on Karnelval in Köln (in 2 1/2 weeks) shit is going to hit the fan.

 

[BreezyLimbo]

new news?

Transgenders are stoned in Dortmand by North African migrants

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...et-by-north-African-teenagers-in-Germany.html

Thats horrifying.

 

[1.21Gigawatts]

Really? It's like in Poland. The government has strickt ties with the public media (not that the private ones are totally neutral). It also happened (and still happens) in my country. But i'm really impressed she had balls of steel to say that out loud.

The government has no ties to public media in germany. If her allegations are true(which i doubt, why would she even know? Her reporting didn't even touch the topic of the refugees in the slightest) then these guidelines came from within the broadcaster, not from the government.
Generally it is visible in german media, public and private, that they try to keep the people from drifting too far to the right. Movements like PEGIDA are (rightfully) ridiculed and attacked.

The thing is that german public media is no singular entity like Fox News or CNN. Its just a lot of journalists just doing their own thing, with some editorial guidance, but way less than what we know from most media outlets, so on the one day you might see something very critical of the refugee situation, the next day the exact opposite.
Look at this video posted on the previous page about the effect of islam in germany:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVWAIKoatWM
Thats also german public media.

Overall it doesn't really make sense to criticize the work of german media as a whole, you'd have to pick single formats.

 

[magnetic]

Well if something happens on Karnelval in Köln (in 2 1/2 weeks) shit is going to hit the fan.

I'm really wondering how this is going to affect the mood this year. Karneval is a big deal in the region (Cologne, Mainz, Düsseldorf, probably more that I'm forgetting) and it will be simply impossible to have enough police force to guarantee an appropriate level of safety.

I was born in that region and this time of year is a big deal to a lot of people. It's loud and excessive with a lot of alcohol flowing, usually something I don't enjoy, but I still have an emotional connection to it.

But maybe they're going for a "screw you, we're not afraid of you" angle.

 

[paperboywriter]

The government has no ties to public media in germany. If her allegations are true(which i doubt, why would she even know? Her reporting didn't even touch the topic of the refugees in the slightest) then these guidelines came from within the broadcaster, not from the government.
Generally it is visible in german media, public and private, that they try to keep the people from drifting too far to the right. Movements like PEGIDA are (rightfully) ridiculed and attacked.

The thing is that german public media is no singular entity like Fox News or CNN. Its just a lot of journalists just doing their own thing, with some editorial guidance, but way less than what we know from most media outlets, so on the one day you might see something very critical of the refugee situation, the next day the exact opposite.
Look at this video posted on the previous page about the effect of islam in germany:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVWAIKoatWM
Thats also german public media.

Overall it doesn't really make sense to criticize the work of german media as a whole, you'd have to pick single formats.

thats my guess too, although I disagree with such practices. on the other hand, they try to use their pwoer to influence public opinion, news at 11

 

[ClosingADoor]

The floodgates have really opened with everyone telling their stories now. Welt.de has a story about a 30-year old woman working in a refugee center in Hamburg since fall last year: http://www.welt.de/print/wams/hamburg/article151089911/Ich-halte-es-nicht-mehr-aus.html

Some Google Translate quotes with edits from me to make it better readable:

Of course you may not generalizations about all refugees under any circumstances, there are many of them who are very friendly to be very grateful, very willingly integrate and are very happy here. But if I'm honest, then the collaboration with 90 percent of those who I meet are rather unpleasant and unfortunately not as I thought they would be.

First of all, many of them are extremely demanding. They come to me and demand that I right now give an apartment and a fancy car and preferably also a really good job, because that is what I am here for. If I reject this and instead try to explain to them that I can not, then they are often noisy and sometimes very aggressive.

Second, they often make very unreliable information. [..] There was, for example, a resident who came with his deportation notice to me and wanted to know what would happen now. I explained it to him, he then went. Soon after he came to my colleague and suddenly showed completely new identity documents with a different name and said he was the man with the different name. He was then no longer recognized, but only moved to another camp.

[..] it has even become worse - frankly, especially in recent weeks, as more and more men from North Africa, from Morocco, Tunisia or Libya, have come here. They were even more aggressive.

I have started to dress differently. [..] I put on loose-fitting pants and exclusively high-necked tops.

And I no longer take the train to work - because lately a colleague was followed by young men to the metro station and even molested in the train.

If this is regular occurrence in these centers, I don't know how they are able to handle it.

 

[ElTorro]

We are really in dire need of better data/studies on the beliefs and expectations of refugees, as well as on their will and ability to integrate. One of my major problems with the current situation is that we are mainly working with anecdotes, since we just did not have time to gather reliable data. We do have some data from the several nations of origin, but I am not sure how good that data is.

 

[1.21Gigawatts]

thats my guess too, although I disagree with such practices. on the other hand, they try to use their pwoer to influence public opinion, news at 11

I don't know if there is an alternative. Journalists are human and humans are inherently subjective beeings. Of course they will report what they think is right.
Of course it is wrong if journalists knowingly keep information from the public, but thats not what Zimmermann is refering to, thats not what happened here.
If anything german public media is guilty of a humanist bias here.