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Media Create Sales: Week 2, 2016 (Jan 11 - Jan 17)

Well, the spots #1 to #7 on Amazon.jp are now all taken by Dragon Quest Builders (two of them are for the playable demo). It's natural to see the game growing as the release date is coming, but that's quite a turnaroud from some days ago. The demo has clearly helped something to move here, maybe Koei Tecmo should think about it for Shingeki no Kyôjin.
 

Ōkami

Member
  1. [PS4] Yakuza: Kiwami - 199pts
  2. [PS3] Yakuza: Kiwami - 160pts
  3. [3DS] Hyrule Warriors Legends: 84pts
  4. [PSV] God Eater: Resurrection - 62pts
  5. [PS4] Resident Evil Origins Collection - 52pts
  6. [PS4] Just Cause 3 - 51pts
  7. [PS3] Resident Evil 0 HD Remaster - 49pts
  8. [3DS] Monster Hunter X - 47pts
  9. [3DS] Monster Strike - 40pts
  10. [WIU] Splatoon - 27pts
  11. [PSV] Odin Sphere: Leifdrasir - 20pts
  12. [PSV] Minecraft: PlayStation Vita Edition - 20pts
  13. [PS4] Odin Sphere: Leifdrasir - 17pts
  14. [PS4] Call of Duty: Black Ops III - 14pts
  15. [WIU] Super Mario Maker - 12pts
  16. [PS4] Fallout 4 - 12pts
  17. [3DS] Hyrule Warriors Legends Premium Box: 12pts
  18. [3DS] Yokai Watch Busters: Red Cat Team - 11pts
  19. [3DS] Disney Magical Castle 2 - 11pts
  20. [PS4] Star Wars: Battlefront - 10pts
 

horuhe

Member
Did GER hit clearance or something?
It has been charting on COMG! weekly since came out.
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Arzehn

Member
Well, the spots #1 to #7 on Amazon.jp are now all taken by Dragon Quest Builders (two of them are for the playable demo). It's natural to see the game growing as the release date is coming, but that's quite a turnaroud from some days ago. The demo has clearly helped something to move here, maybe Koei Tecmo should think about it for Shingeki no Kyôjin.

Agreed.

Today's Comgnet update for DQB:
PSV: 90>101pts
PS4: 58>62pts
PS3: 19>20pts

+16 Points today.
Days before the demo it was getting 2-3 pts a day
 

Takao

Banned
It has been charting on COMG! weekly since came out.

It occasionally pops up in Dengeki's Top 50. My comment was more aimed at the fact that it's ranked #4 with 62 points on Comgnet this weekend. That seems really high for it, so I figured it must be on sale or something.
Did Ufotable finally finish the anime???
 

horuhe

Member
It occasionally pops up in Dengeki's Top 50. My comment was more aimed at the fact that it's ranked #4 with 62 points on Comgnet this weekend. That seems really high for it, so I figured it must be on sale or something.
Did Ufotable finally finish the anime???
There is an explanation for it, and it's just that this week in COMG! was held an event about Resurrection. About the anime, I really don't know, though.
 

Takao

Banned
There is an explanation for it, and it's just that this week in COMG! was held an event about Resurrection. About the anime, I really don't know, though.

Thanks, that would explain it.

Looks like the last few episodes of the anime premiere in March. I doubt any of the games will have their sales resurrected.
 

Arzehn

Member
Isn't that just normal last minute movement?

I'd say normal is usually x2 towards x3 on last few days. Rapid jump here on what was somewhat low preorders.
Yakuza for example didn't see much growth on last few days. I remember being surprised by MHX's growth on last stretch as well, which also had a successful demo iirc.

I'd be curious to hear about GameMaya preorders. Last we heard from hiska-kun, they were much lower than DQH, but maybe this demo will help.
 

Vena

Member
I'd say normal is usually x2 towards x3 on last few days. Rapid jump here on what was somewhat low preorders.

Given the performance up to this point, wouldn't it be more likely for it to go out with a whimper?

I don't see this as overly standout. The title, even before today, had well over a hundred points sum-total at COMG and in the tail end of pre-orders, many titles with numbers in this range will experience a steady growth of 5-10 per day on just one platform, more for more platforms.

No doubt the demo helped some fence sitters but I don't think the affect is pronounced as its being made out to be over what are simply normal near-release movements of a title with some appeal. We're not talking about a #FE-tier release suddenly gaining 15+points.
 
I don't see this as overly standout. The title, even before today, had well over a hundred points sum-total at COMG and in the tail end of pre-orders, many titles with numbers in this range will experience a steady growth of 5-10 per day on just one platform, more for more platforms.

No doubt the demo helped some fence sitters but I don't think the affect is pronounced as its being made out to be over what are simply normal near-release movements of a title with some appeal. We're not talking about a #FE-tier release suddenly gaining 15+points.

It's coincidental that the demo ties-in with the final weekend for the game, absolutely. What you're describing is true, but the game was moving at an absolute snail's pace prior to this weekend (even though it was in the "tail end of pre-orders" for a few days prior to this) so I think both factors are at play here.
 

Vena

Member
It's coincidental that the demo ties-in with the final weekend for the game, absolutely. What you're describing is true, but the game was moving at an absolute snail's pace prior to this weekend (even though it was in the "tail end of pre-orders" for a few days prior to this) so I think both factors are at play here.

Oh sure I am not discounting both factors, I am more just questioning the intensity of the factors relative to one another and in general.
 

horuhe

Member
Rakuten Books Ranking Week 3, 2016 (Jan 18 - Jan 24)

01./00. [PS3] Yakuza: Kiwami <ADV> (Sega)
02./00. [PS4] Yakuza: Kiwami <ADV> (Sega)
03./02. [PSV] Odin Sphere: Leifthrasir <ACT> (Atlus)
04./01. [PS4] Odin Sphere: Leifthrasir <ACT> (Atlus)
05./04. [3DS] Monster Hunter X <ACT> (Capcom)
06./00. [3DS] Hyrule Warriors Legends <ACT> (Koei Tecmo)
07./07. [3DS] Monster Strike <RPG> (Mixi)
08./05. [WiiU] Splatoon <ACT> (Nintendo)
09./03. [WiiU] Super Mario Maker <ACT> (Nintendo)
10./00. [PS3] Resident Evil 0 HD Remaster <ADV> (Capcom)
11./00. [PS4] Resident Evil: Origins Collection <ADV> (Capcom)
12./16. [PSV] Minecraft: PlayStation Vita Edition <ADV> (Sony Computer Entertainment)
13./06. [3DS] Rhythm Heaven: The Best+ <ACT> (Nintendo)
14./11. [3DS] Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam <RPG> (Nintendo)
15./10. [PS4] Fallout 4 <RPG> (Bethesda Softworks)
16./09. [3DS] Yo-Kai Watch Busters: Red Cat Team <ACT> (Level 5)
17./13. [3DS] Yo-Kai Watch Busters: White Dog Squad <ACT> (Level 5)
18./12. [3DS] Animal Crossing: Happy Home Designer <ETC> (Nintendo)
19./08. [PS3] Odin Sphere: Leifthrasir <ACT> (Atlus)
20./00. [PS4] Just Cause 3 <ACT> (Square Enix)

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Rakuten Books Pre-Orders Ranking Week 3, 2016 (Jan 18 - Jan 24)

01./06. [PS4] Dragon Quest Builders <ADV> (Square Enix)
02./04. [PSV] Dragon Quest Builders <ADV> (Square Enix)
03./12. [PSV] Dragon Quest Builders <ADV> (Square Enix)
04./05. [3DS] Yo-Kai Romance of the Three Kingdoms <ACT> (Level 5)
05./03. [3DS] Shin Megami Tensei IV: Final <RPG> (Atlus)
06./20. [PSV] Kan Colle Kai <ACT> (Kadokawa Games)
07./09. [WiiU] Mario Tennis: Ultra Smash <SPT> (Nintendo)
08./10. [PS4] Romance of the Three Kingdoms 13 <SLG> (Koei Tecmo)
09./11. [PS4] Naruto Shippuden: Ultimate Ninja Storm 4 <FTG> (Bandai Namco)
10./19. [PS4] Attack on Titan <ACT> (Koei Tecmo)
 

horuhe

Member
Takarajima Stores started to advertise Shin Megami Tensei IV Final. They expect great sales for the game, after the success of the previous entry. After Dragon Quest Builders is the next big game.

 

Ryng_tolu

Banned
Takarajima Stores started to advertise Shin Megami Tensei IV Final. They expect great sales for the game, after the success of the previous entry. After Dragon Quest Builders is the next big game.

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Oh no, Nirolak is trapped in a poster! Don't worry, i will save you! :p
 

horuhe

Member
I believe that the difference is going to be bigger than you think. More like 65% - 35%
Again, I don't trust rakuten rankings.
As I stated some comments before, I was referring to first week and that report was for the first day. Obviously the difference will grow but I don't think that much. We are talking about almost doubling the number. I can't see the PS3 version doing that. LTD it's possible, but first week it sounds really weird in my opinion.
 

Mory Dunz

Member
YSO predictions

Week 4, 2016 (Jan 25 - Jan 31)

01. [PSV] Dragon Quest Builders: Alefgard o Fukkatsu Niseyo < 135k (average 120k)
02. [PS4] Dragon Quest Builders: Alefgard o Fukkatsu Niseyo < 90k (average 75k)
03. [WIU] Mario Tennis: Ultra Smash < 65k (average 55k)
___

00. [PSV][PS4][PS3] Dragon Quest Builders: Alefgard o Fukkatsu Niseyo < 255k (average 230k)
00. [PSV] Uta no Prince-Sama: Music 3 < 35k (average 20k)

surprised at Mario Tennis. Thought it'd be lower. Did it get advertised?

I know there were high expectations for this game from many here when it was announced but what I saw looked totally unispiring to me, even comparing to the standard musou gameplay. It looks like the next big thing that fails to meet original hype.

cause eveyone cause just play those free AoT fan games now.


I think both will sell something like 2-3 million.

So I'm assuming you're expecting ~1million (including digital) in the US for Pokken then?
 

Ryng_tolu

Banned
So I'm assuming you're expecting ~1million (including digital) in the US for Pokken then?

Yeah is possible, or at least very close to that, i expect a 300k-350k debut in March NPD.
Though i don't think is safe, so far only Mario Kart 8, Super Smash Bros, Mario Maker, Mario 3D World, Mario Bros U, Nintendo land and Splatoon sold that much.

Mario Party 10 could too, it sold 633,000 by end of 2015 withouth digital.
 

Mory Dunz

Member
Yeah is possible, or at least very close to that, i expect a 300k-350k debut in March NPD.
Though i don't think is safe, so far only Mario Kart 8, Super Smash Bros, Mario Maker, Mario 3D World, Mario Bros U, Nintendo land and Splatoon sold that much.

Mario Party 10 could too, it sold 633,000 by end of 2015 withouth digital.

Oh yeah. I thought you'd be more sure though. I figure even reaching 2 mil necessitates it selling 1mil in NPD wouldn't it?

I can't see it getting over 500k in Japan imo. And I don't think there's a reason for Europe to have better numbers for Pokken than the US. And I think over 5 million of the Wii U install base is in the US. So to reach that # it would need a great US performance.

Yeah, I'm expecting around a 290k opening in NPD. I'm expecting similar sales to Mario Party altogether tbh. Maybe a little lower.
 

hiska-kun

Member
Tsutaya's Ranking Week 3 2016

01./00. [PS4] Yakuza: Kiwami <ADV> (Sega)
02./00. [PS3] Yakuza: Kiwami <ADV> (Sega)
03./00. [3DS] Hyrule Warriors Legends <ACT> (Koei Tecmo)
04./00. [PS4] Just Cause 3 <ACT> (Square Enix)
05./00. [PS4] Resident Evil: Origins Collection <Resident Evil 0 HD Remaster Resident Evil HD Remaster> <ADV> (Capcom)

06./02. [3DS] Monster Hunter X <ACT> (Capcom)
07./01. [PSV] Odin Sphere: Leifdrasir <RPG> (Atlus)
08./05. [3DS] Monster Strike <RPG> (Mixi)
09./00. [PS3] Resident Evil 0 HD Remaster <ADV> (Capcom)
10./06. [WIU] Splatoon <ACT> (Nintendo)
11./03. [PS4] Odin Sphere: Leifdrasir <RPG> (Atlus)
12./07. [PSV] Minecraft: PlayStation Vita Edition <ADV> (Sony Computer Entertainment)
13./10. [WIU] Super Mario Maker <ETC> (Nintendo)
14./09. [PS4] Fallout 4 <RPG> (Bethesda Softworks)
15./08. [3DS] Yo-kai Watch Busters: Red Cat Team <ACT> (Level 5)
16./11. [3DS] Yo-kai Watch Busters: White Dog Squad <ACT> (Level 5)
17./04. [3DS] Card Fight!! Vanguard G: Stride to Victory!! <TBL> (FuRyu)
18./14. [PS4] Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six: Siege <ADV> (Ubisoft)
19./13. [3DS] Rhythm Heaven: The Best+ <ACT> (Nintendo)
20./16. [PS4] Call of Duty: Black Ops III <ACT> (Sony Computer Entertainment)
 

BlackJace

Member
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If that image of the MC pointing to his temple is the final boxart, I wonder if it'll be changed for the US release due to it resembling shooting oneself or something.
 

Ryng_tolu

Banned
Oh yeah. I thought you'd be more sure though. I figure even reaching 2 mil necessitates it selling 1mil in NPD wouldn't it?

I can't see it getting over 500k in Japan imo. And I don't think there's a reason for Europe to have better numbers for Pokken than the US. And I think over 5 million of the Wii U install base is in the US. So to reach that # it would need a great US performance.

Yeah, I'm expecting around a 290k opening in NPD. I'm expecting similar sales to Mario Party altogether tbh. Maybe a little lower.

Humm, i don't know if Mario Party is a good comparation, they are very difference games.
Mario Party is a game with strong legs and good holidays boost, i don't think Pokkén could do this.

It should have a bigger launch though.

Btw as for now i say no, very close but no, but i think it can sell >1 million in Nord America if Nintendo make a bundle with Wii U.
 

hiska-kun

Member
As I stated some comments before, I was referring to first week and that report was for the first day. Obviously the difference will grow but I don't think that much. We are talking about almost doubling the number. I can't see the PS3 version doing that. LTD it's possible, but first week it sounds really weird in my opinion.

When I was talking about 65% - 35% I was referring in favour of PS4.
I don't think the PS3 version will be on par or even higher than the PS4's one.

We have other reliable sources (GamesMaya, Tsutaya, the blog...) that all of them are pointing the opposite.
 

Mory Dunz

Member
Humm, i don't know if Mario Party is a good comparation, they are very difference games.
Mario Party is a game with strong legs and good holidays boost, i don't think Pokkén could do this.

It should have a bigger launch though.

Btw as for now i say no, very close but no, but i think it can sell >1 million in Nord America if Nintendo make a bundle with Wii U.

yeah...that would be pretty leggy for pokken. I'll probably rethink it.
 
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If that image of the MC pointing to his temple is the final boxart, I wonder if it'll be changed for the US release due to it resembling shooting oneself or something.[/QUOTE]

that's not the boxart (it's used for the ost release instead)
 

FluxWaveZ

Member
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If that image of the MC pointing to his temple is the final boxart, I wonder if it'll be changed for the US release due to it resembling shooting oneself or something.

Not only is that not the box art, but you're talking about Atlus. They 100% wouldn't change it for a reason like that.
 

BlackJace

Member
that's not the boxart (it's used for the ost release instead)

Not only is that not the box art, but you're talking about Atlus. They 100% wouldn't change it for a reason like that.

That was never a problem with Borderlands.

Thanks for the clarification. It is true that Atlus wouldn't change it even if it was the final version lol.

Kinda wish it was, it has a nice green thing going on.
 

Nirolak

Mrgrgr
For several franchises not yet. Yakuza will have a big part of sales on PS3 next week and we still have to see how PS4 reacts at big exclusive titles. Dark Souls III will be the next test.

For this I kind of mentally separate the "active users" from the "hit buyers".

Active users I view as the people who are buying 8-10+ titles a year because they're using their PS3 all the time as a primary gaming platform.

Hit buyers I view as people who are buying maybe 1-3 titles a year, but primarily game on other devices, and only dip into the PS3 when it has something they really want to play that isn't on another system they own. A lot of these people are former active users, but they've migrated into this type of category. The 3DS in the West is pretty similar to this now.

Hit buyers will presumably migrate when the biggest titles go exclusive, assuming they still have enough interest in the series to spend $300+.

The other trick is trying to upsell the Vita buyers instead of losing them to a competitor or the ether, but it's a less obvious upgrade route than PS3 -> PS4.
 

saichi

Member
I think Builders will have better legs than many other Dragon Quest games depending on how low the price will be dropped to. Once it hits 4k yen or lower I think it may be possible for it to hang around the bottom of the charts for a while.

I think you are mixing legs with selling first shipment. Price drop would be set by the retailer to clear stock. It is unlikely for SE to drop the price they sell to store. Therefore, unless retailers are willing to order more copies and sell them at a loss, it is unlikely for it to have better legs than other DQ games.
 

ZSaberLink

Media Create Maven
YSO predictions

Week 4, 2016 (Jan 25 - Jan 31)

01. [PSV] Dragon Quest Builders: Alefgard o Fukkatsu Niseyo < 135k (average 120k)
02. [PS4] Dragon Quest Builders: Alefgard o Fukkatsu Niseyo < 90k (average 75k)
03. [WIU] Mario Tennis: Ultra Smash < 65k (average 55k)
___

00. [PSV][PS4][PS3] Dragon Quest Builders: Alefgard o Fukkatsu Niseyo < 255k (average 230k)
00. [PSV] Uta no Prince-Sama: Music 3 < 35k (average 20k)

That's... pretty impressive for Mario Tennis. Then again, Mario Tennis showed much better legs in the US over Animal Crossing as well.

Well all considering both sold super low, so this is not much important.

But wow, Mario Tennis sold 67,000 in USA in 6 weeks ( 6 HOLIDAYS week), looks like it will sell around those numbers only first week in Japan?

Still bad but i don't get why it should do better in Japan.

Isn't 50K+ FW for a bad Mario Tennis game on Wii U remarkably good sales for Japan? Apart from the major tentpoles (NSMBU, 3D World, MK8, Smash, etc.) only Hyrule Warriors, Mario Party 10, and Pikmin 3 even had a first week this good on Wii U.

I almost want to think that if Paper Mario is actually a WiiU release, its because of the weird end-of-life flatness YoY of the WiiU, and Nintendo wants to give the perception of a good end-of-life to the audiences that Splatoon and SMM have rather unexpectedly started to cultivate. The more active audience, as we can see from MT and Pokken, could also help push for the title to be released on the WiiU.

I admit, people would be pretty surprised if the Wii U had a half decent lineup in its last year on the market.
 

Arzehn

Member
&#332;kami;193205589 said:
Square and Sony are holding a builders event on the Shinjuku station to promote Dragon Quest Builders, this started today and will be there for a month, seemingly there, and there only.

Good ad campaign, same location as the DQH's giant poster apparently. Isn't Shinjuku the most popular train station in the world? 1 month is a long time for that kind of exposure too.

Remove 180,000 blocks to reveal a special poster.
 

Sage00

Once And Future Member
&#332;kami;193205589 said:
Square and Sony are holding a builders event on the Shinjuku station to promote Dragon Quest Builders, this started today and will be there for a month, seemingly there, and there only.

Also.

Dark Souls III cross promotion.
Square Enix love that Shinjuku subway space I guess. They had that cool DQ Heroes bubble walk everywhere in that station too.

Will definitely be hitting up that Dark Souls gallery. Didn't even know 109 men's had an event space.
 

noobie

Banned
YSO predictions

Week 4, 2016 (Jan 25 - Jan 31)

01. [PSV] Dragon Quest Builders: Alefgard o Fukkatsu Niseyo < 135k (average 120k)
02. [PS4] Dragon Quest Builders: Alefgard o Fukkatsu Niseyo < 90k (average 75k)
03. [WIU] Mario Tennis: Ultra Smash < 65k (average 55k)
___

00. [PSV][PS4][PS3] Dragon Quest Builders: Alefgard o Fukkatsu Niseyo < 255k (average 230k)
00. [PSV] Uta no Prince-Sama: Music 3 < 35k (average 20k)

More interesting will be how well the PS4 hardware sells. Does it still go down to 20k or goes up to 30k.
 

Vena

Member
More interesting will be how well the PS4 hardware sells. Does it still go down to 20k or goes up to 30k.

Should go up, but we're still fighting off the full slide down post-holidays as this past week also included a holiday day (and some anticipated releases).
 
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