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Love Boat [Mafia] |OT| Till Death Do Us Part

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El Topo

Member
Isn't there something along the lines of "Never reveal your role unless necessary" in the strategy guide? I feel like there was not enough reason to reveal your role, to be quite honest.
 
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kingkitty

Member
El Topo said:
Isn't there something along the lines of "Never reveal your role unless necessary" in the strategy guide? I feel like there was not enough reason to reveal your role, to be quite honest.
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what would've been your play if you were karkendoor?

also im lazy so i'll post additional reads tomorrow, unless right now there's a boat in particular people want my thoughts on.

on the topic of whether to end this game earlier, i'm okay if it ends 24 hours earlier. at that point i'm sure everyone had the opportunity to give their thoughts.
 
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Karkador

Banned
El Topo said:
Isn't there something along the lines of "Never reveal your role unless necessary" in the strategy guide? I feel like there was not enough reason to reveal your role, to be quite honest.
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When you think someone is a scum Tracker, and get confirmation that they tracked you, it's possible that Mafia already had us lined up for a N2 kill. Blawl could have sat through the entirety of today "protecting" our names and looking really responsible and Townish.

Considering the lack of a death last night, and considering that a Tracker wouldn't necessarily know what role targeted them, I think a Town-sided Blawl would have taken a more inquisitive approach. As it stood, they seemed content in sitting on the info.
 
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batsnacks

Member
Kark's patience in responding to all of these little inquiries is commendable... just giving a shout out to that. Honestly if I'm Kark I'm ccing blarg/kawl day 1 and just letting myself get lynched if town doesn't believe me.
 
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Karkador

Banned
Still waiting on Blarg and Kawl's input on all this, by the way.

Stillll waiting.

Advice still stands:

Karkador said:
Blarg and Kawl, I hope for your sake, whatever epic you're typing includes a compelling alternative to dealing with us today, because if it's not you, it's me...and then you're easily going to be next.
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batsnacks

Member
batsnacks said:
And then doctor blarg who claimed miller/tracker chose to protect kark/zipp n1? U_U

I have played with blarg and I am a fan of the blarg but I don't know about all of that.
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It's weirder too if blarg is the doctor because that means that he knows he saved Kark and he is still trying to get Kark lynched.

No explanation other than blarg/kawl being mafia makes sense.
 
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FluxWaveZ

Member
If Blarg and Kawl are scum, why would they claim on D1? I'm leaning towards there not being a cop at all, so what was the point of false claiming Miller when the presence of an alignment cop was wholly uncertain? Was my claim somehow the impetus for theirs? I can't comprehend why mafia would put themselves out there like that if not for that.
 
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batsnacks

Member
FluxWaveZ said:
If Blarg and Kawl are scum, why would they claim on D1? I'm leaning towards there not being a cop at all, so what was the point of false claiming Miller when the presence of an alignment cop was wholly uncertain? Was my claim somehow the impetus for theirs? I can't comprehend why mafia would put themselves out there like that if not for that.
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No dude. You can't bait me into giving a serious response to this. You only get batman gifs:
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Giant Panda

Member
Outside of this Blawl/Karkhead thing, the other areas of interest that I have that I hope to get to on day 3 are LaunchpadMcQ and Camjo. It may sound like I'm harping on it, but the way he got really defensive and his entire tone changed when he got some mild pressure. With Camjo, I found it really suspicious that he was trying to get power roles to claim so early, as they would seem to be playing into the Mafia's hands.

As for FluxTime, I believe they are likely town because I don't see a scum team deciding to do such a risky move.

If Blarg's upcoming post doesn't change anything, we might as well get the day ended because we won't be getting much info when we can't effectively threaten anyone with the possibility of getting lynched today.
 
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Camjo-Z

Member
Giant Panda said:
With Camjo, I found it really suspicious that he was trying to get power roles to claim so early, as they would seem to be playing into the Mafia's hands.
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I'll be the first to admit, I did not think that one through completely. I was arguing that doc could protect cop from getting killed, but it dawned on me afterwards that it doesn't really matter when a potential maf roleblocker could just stop the cop from getting reports. I'm too used to games where a cop can out early and then lead with whispered claims even if they get reports blocked by a hooker, but of course this game doesn't have whispers so that strategy's right out the window.

I appreciate the suspicion though. Maf would be fools to kill me tonight with all these people pointing fingers at me! Fools, I say!
༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ pls no maf killerino
 
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YesNOnoNOYes

Member
CURRENT VOTE TALLY:

Blargonaut & Kawl_USC (11)
Karkador .1889
Zippedpinhead .1892
Flame_AC .1893
Hyperactivity .1895
*Splinter .1919 .2145
batsnacks .1930
Timeaisis .2009
Camjo-Z .2086
TL21xx .2090
LaunchpadMcQ .2130
Kyanrute .2142
Retroid .2224 .2225
Retroid .2225

Coppanuva & Flame_AC (1)
Dusk Soldier .1992

Hobohodo & Ty4on (1)
FluxWaveZ .1920 .2235
cabot .2028 .2146
cabot .2146

FluxWaveZ & Timeaisis (1)
Gorlak .1699 .2040
Camjo-Z .1846 .2086
Coppanuva .1903 .1990
Blargonaut .1911
TL21xx .2042 .2090

Karkador & Zippedpinhead (1)
Gorlak .2044 .2057
Ty4on .2271

Gorlak & LaunchpadMcQ (1)
Giant Panda .1637 .1640
Giant Panda .1640
UltraJay .1688 .1695
Coppanuva .1994 .2061

*Splinter & cabot (0)
LaunchpadMcQ .1764 .2130

batsnacks & MagnumBoy20xx (0)
Flame_AC .1745 .1893

El Topo & Giant Panda (0)
cabot .1625 .1663
cabot .1941 .2028

Hyperactivity & kingkitty (0)
cabot .1670 .1941


No active vote for Day 2:
*Splinter (has previously voted)
Boo Boo'n
Coppanuva (has previously voted)
El Topo
FluxWaveZ (has previously voted)
Gorlak (has previously voted)
Hobohodo
Karu
Kawl_USC
kingkitty
MagnumBoy20xx
UltraJay (has previously voted)



Day 2 ends:
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15 votes for majority
 
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Timeaisis

Member
Anticipation for Blarg's new book "Why I Blarg", a sequel to last years smash hit "How to Blarg", is at a fever pitch, nearly matching the release final chapter of the Harry Potter saga and launch of the new Nintendo NX.
 
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Ourobolus

Banned
el topo & giant panda (0)
cabot
cabot

launchpadmcq & gorlak (1)
giant panda
ultrajay
coppanuva

kingkitty & hyperactivity (0)
cabot

timeaisis & fluxwavez (1)
gorlak
coppanuva
camjo-z
blargonaut
tl21xx

magnumboy20xx & batsnacks (0)
flame_ac

*splinter & cabot (0)
launchpadmcq

blargonaut & kawl_usc (12)
karkador
zippedpinhead
flame_ac
hyperactivity
*splinter
timeaisis
camjo-z
tl21xx
launchpadmcq
kyanrute
ultrajay
retroid
fluxwavez
batsnacks

hobohodo & ty4on (0)
fluxwavez

coppanuva & flame_ac (1)
dusk soldier

karkador & zippedpinhead (1)
gorlak
ty4on
 
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*Splinter

Member
Camjo-Z said:
He claimed his goal was to get his team lynched to avoid having town lynch a PR. He ended up being the first on a bandwagon to lynch a PR. Any dumbass townie can get themselves lynched D1 if they try, so if that was really his plan then he failed spectacularly at it. It's not just bad play, it's literally the opposite of what he said he was trying to do.

Also, I'm not sure why you're going all out on me when I'm not pushing for a Flux lynch right now anyway. There's bigger fish to fry at the moment, and I'll probably change my views if/when we get some D3 info that clears him or makes someone else look even more suspicious anyway.
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You aren't pushing for a Flux lynch because a Blarg lynch is already a certainty. I'm questioning you because I don't understand your position, and I'm not entirely convinced that you do either.

This response isn't helping. First paragraph repeats the point I already dismissed (although if someone could link where Flux claimed to be trying to be lynched I'd appreciate it), and the second paragraph is defensive and already trying to soften your position.

Pro tip: stick to your guns or have a damn good reason for reversing.

TLCam = Scum
 
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*Splinter

Member
Ok who's next?

And stop that turbo you bums. The conversation keeps going back to "what if Kark" because scum will it and idiot town allow it.
 
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Gorlak

Banned
*Splinter said:
I'm more worried about those easily lead than the one guy who suggests a target (with decent reasoning) and suddenly finds himself heading a bandwagon.
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Why are you actively trying to defend Flux?

(it was neither a good reasoning nor a sudden role as a lynch leader, he asked four people in immediate danger of dying to follow his lead, of course they clutched at the straw, he knew what he did very well)

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Camjo-Z said:
I'll be the first to admit, I did not think that one through completely. I was arguing that doc could protect cop from getting killed, but it dawned on me afterwards that it doesn't really matter when a potential maf roleblocker could just stop the cop from getting reports. I'm too used to games where a cop can out early and then lead with whispered claims even if they get reports blocked by a hooker, but of course this game doesn't have whispers so that strategy's right out the window.

I appreciate the suspicion though. Maf would be fools to kill me tonight with all these people pointing fingers at me! Fools, I say!
༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ pls no maf killerino
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WTF? You are clever and you've played before. You know what you were asking for and you know this was suspicious as hell. I don't believe you in the slightest that you thought an outed cop Day2 could lead town to a safe victory. You're a suspicious liar.
 
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*Splinter

Member
Gorlak said:
Why are you actively trying to defend Flux?

(it was neither a good reasoning nor a sudden role as a lynch leader, he asked four people in immediate danger of dying to follow his lead, of course they clutched at the straw, he knew what he did very well)

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WTF? You are clever and you've played before. You know what you were asking for and you know this was suspicious as hell. I don't believe you in the slightest that you thought an outed cop Day2 could lead town to a safe victory. You're a suspicious liar.
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I guess I'll go back and read it again, but I know that I for one was already suspicious of NeverTim's low-key presence.

Also kind of playing devil's advocate here, but I think that's the weakest point against Camjo. It looks to me like playing in a different meta, and his explanation already given (whispers, follow the cop etc) makes sense to me.
 
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Blargonaut

Banned
So, it's, uh, ready to drop

But Kawl is currently sleeping, apparently he's in a ~4am timezone right now, so




And I need him to do the thing












Fucking timezones




Please wait in your seats, the ride will

Keep hands in

fuck



just wait a few more hours please









I made the logo for this game
 
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Gorlak

Banned
*Splinter said:
I guess I'll go back and read it again, but I know that I for one was already suspicious of NeverTim's low-key presence.
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You're missing my point. Why are YOU defending him?

Also kind of playing devil's advocate here, but I think that's the weakest point against Camjo. It looks to me like playing in a different meta, and his explanation already given (whispers, follow the cop etc) makes sense to me.
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No game of mafia is balanced if the cop can out on Day 2 and scum is immediatly fucked. Where are you getting at? He's trying to hide in some obscure tactics no one of us could verify they exist, fuck that shit. He was fishing for PRs who easily fall for his call and now he's weaseling himself out of this with bullshit explanations ("I didn't think right, duuuh'")
 
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*Splinter

Member
Gorlak said:
You're missing my point. Why are YOU defending him?



No game of mafia is balanced if the cop can out on Day 2 and scum is immediatly fucked. Where are you getting at? He's trying to hide in some obscure tactics no one of us could verify they exist, fuck that shit. He was fishing for PRs who easily fall for his call and now he's weaseling himself out of this with bullshit explanations ("I didn't think right, duuuh'")
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Beyond thinking that he's town, I'm not particularly trying to defend Flux. I'm more examining the argument made by Cam and explaining why I think it's a bad argument.

"Whispers" sounds like Town of Salem, and while I haven't played enough to know if that's a done thing over there, it sounds possible. Most games of ToS I played weren't exactly "balanced" either.

But like I said, devil's advocate. I think Cam is scum just not for the reason you are suggesting.
 
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UltraJay

Member
Nothing's happened yet?

Time Zones, man. The amount of times I've stayed up to 5 AM to see a day end or start. Europeans, calm down. The North and South Americans will be waking up soon.

Blarg isn't stalling for time, guys. Well... he is. But he's right about the time in America. Apparently he needs his cohort. This better be good.
 
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