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[AcademicSaucer]

How is Beyond Good and Evil 2 going to play on that thing ?

 

[Dr. Malik]

Nintendo reading this thread like

Nintendo having to convert the haters again.

Nintendo winning in the end as usual

this stan talk isn't going to change any course Nintendo has set just like it didn't change Gaga's trajectory with ARTPOP, there is no "winning" here

 

[ZOONAMI]

Happy to be proven right that it's real, but I'm a lot less happy that ill need to deal with this nonsense to play my Zeldas and my Marios

My hands are pretty sweaty basically a lot of the time. This console will be mu private hell

Nothing has been proven. This is actually less convincing than the first fake leak because it isnt powered on, nothing on screen.

 

[moggio]

Can't see this working well with any of Nintendo's properties. Smash? Nope. Need some type of physical buttons for a fighting game. 2D Mario? Nope, not enough precision. 3D Mario? Nope, need more precision in controls. Zelda, precision. I can't see this working.

It'll work fine with all Nintendo properties. How does it "lack precision" when it has two analogue sticks?

 

[lwilliams3]

I feel no happiness about this whatsoever.

Assuming that this is it, it would have been awesome to see Nintendo properly reveal this instead of it being leak. I feel that we are missing some key details here. I will trust Nintendo that they have tested this controller to make sure that it works well. The Wii U Gamepad, despite its flaws, did work the way it intended to do. I doubt this will be any different, or else they would just stick with a more traditional format.

Of course. Nintendo are a game company and have been one for much longer than apple's foray into gaming.

Yep.

Unless the handheld is a controller as well.

I am thinking that could be the case as well. As I said in the other thread, that type of controller would be pricey, and it would be a big benefit for it to be a stand-alone portable. GoFreak appears to have a similar idea too.

 

[bachikarn]

You wanna know why this controller doesn't have buttons?

Listen to this week's bombcast, 2:55:15.

An entire generation of gamers now exists who use hardware without buttons and think that traditional consoles are wastes of money and are designed for old people.

It's happened. We are the old men yelling at clouds from our porches. An entire generation of gamers is looking to pass us by. Nintendo isn't looking to get into a fist fight with Sony and Microsoft, Nintendo is looking to get into a fist fight with iOS and Android. And considering how poorly those ecosystems are managed when it comes to gaming, it's a fight they can win.



Just like we did it on the D-pad.

And let's not get nuts, you'll get a stick or a pad for fighting games the same way we do now. But even then, consider that the iOS and 3DS versions of SF4 are MILLION SELLERS.

I don't know if I completely buy that. Its true younger people are used to no buttons but that doesn't mean that some of them won't eventually jump on the core gaming train. Maybe core gaming will go back to being a niche but it will still be there.

Not having buttons isn't going to get those casuals to buy their sysyem. If Nintendo really wants to focus on getting casuals to buy their stuff, they need to abandon hardware and focus on mobile.

They are still trying to appeal to both crowds when they want completely different things. In their attempt to appeal to both, they don't appeal to either.

 

[Doctre81]

You guys jumped the guy a couple days ago and now you are doing it again. Just wait and see what this thing is and what it can do before you swear off Nintendo forever lol.

 

[phanphare]

glad they're not abandoning the second screen, if anything

 

[Heartfyre]

I think it's a great idea to have a game-specific control scheme. Rather than press the A button to jump, the game can display a Jump button to jump.

I want buttons, though. Not a touchscreen.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

You wanna know why this controller doesn't have buttons?

Listen to this week's bombcast, 2:55:15.

An entire generation of gamers now exists who use hardware without buttons and think that traditional consoles are wastes of money and are designed for old people.

It's happened. We are the old men yelling at clouds from our porches. An entire generation of gamers is looking to pass us by. Nintendo isn't looking to get into a fist fight with Sony and Microsoft, Nintendo is looking to get into a fist fight with iOS and Android. And considering how poorly those ecosystems are managed when it comes to gaming, it's a fight they can win.



Just like we did it on the D-pad.

And let's not get nuts, you'll get a stick or a pad for fighting games the same way we do now. But even then, consider that the iOS and 3DS versions of SF4 are MILLION SELLERS.

That same audience was also raised on hand me down iPhones or cheap $99 Chinese android tablets, and on the concept of paying exactly $0.00 for game software. And it's a set of ecosystems that even Microsoft with all of their money and might has yet to really crack. Good luck with that, Nintendo. I'm sure parents are just itching to buy their touch screen kids $200-300 dedicated video game consoles and $30-40 games again.

 

[SenorArdilla]

Ahahahahahahahaha!

No buttons. I do hope that the controller is at least ergonomic.

 

[RhyDin]

I can't think of anything less "nintendo" than replacing buttons, considering how their games are designed around consistent inputs. If this is real it means they basically have no idea what the fuck is going on.

If it has first party titles (will definitely have ZeldaU) and Metroid, Punch-Out, etc, GAF will buy it. Most people will probably buy it.

In the end, it will be a failure, sure. I bet it will hold them afloat to stay in the market, so this won't be their "last console". People saying RIP Nintendo don't really mean it, I don't think, they just want a change. It's fair, but the change we want probably won't happen this gen.

 

[oti]

this stan talk isn't going to change any course Nintendo has set just like it didn't change Gaga's trajectory with ARTPOP, there is no "winning" here

Hey PopGAF,

STOP

 

[Dystify]

IF it's Massive Entertainment, isn't anyone excited that NX might get The Division? People seem really excited by that game.

I'm not so sure that they'd actually develop the late port themselves. But who knows.

 

[Samemind]

But you can put direct access to your menu and the kick/special on the touchscreen. How is that not reliable?

I find it awkwardly positioned and not nearly responsive enough for an action that you want to use with precision (run over and wake up a hunter about to die, use the GS kick to set up a lv3 smash on a sleeping monster, etc). It's like trying to play, say, Street Fighter with medium punch mapped to the options button on a DS4.

 

[-Horizon-]

So the face of the leaker or one of his devs friends is reflecting on the display.

lol wait what
where? lol

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

Can't see this working well with any of Nintendo's properties. Smash? Nope. Need some type of physical buttons for a fighting game. 2D Mario? Nope, not enough precision. 3D Mario? Nope, need more precision in controls. Zelda, precision. I can't see this working.

Name the last time Nintendo released a controller that didn't work with their main franchises.

 

[udivision]

Pretty much on point. Nintendo don't want old man money.
Games are going to aim to get simpler to reach a wider audience.

They're going after the people who typically pay $0 for games and have no strong attachment to Nintendo brands. They're going after the people who get new, cool hardware for free every two years because of a contract. They're going after people who can download all of their old games on their new hardware with no hassle. I'm not sure Nintendo is in the best position to "get" them.

 

[VendettaRed07]

You wanna know why this controller doesn't have buttons?

Listen to this week's bombcast, 2:55:15.

An entire generation of gamers now exists who use hardware without buttons and think that traditional consoles are wastes of money and are designed for old people.

It's happened. We are the old men yelling at clouds from our porches. An entire generation of gamers is looking to pass us by. Nintendo isn't looking to get into a fist fight with Sony and Microsoft, Nintendo is looking to get into a fist fight with iOS and Android. And considering how poorly those ecosystems are managed when it comes to gaming, it's a fight they can win.

How can anyone think this when Sony is clearly showing that a market for a traditional game console is alive just as much as it ever was

If premium consoles are a waste of money how on earth is Nintendo going to convince kids who already have an iPhone and iPad that can get games for free or 2 bucks each, to buy a several hundred dollar console that controls like an iPhone with games that cost 60$ each

 

[jax]

I will have to be convinced that a controller with no buttons can work in games that require precision (i.e. platformers, FPS, fighters, etc...). Then I'll be excited.

If there are paddles + the scroll triggers I don't see what the issue is. 4 inputs on each side + analog + on screen buttons is more than enough.

 

[QuantumSquid]

Nintendo needs to make a new, affordably priced console with an intuitive, non-gimmick controller and they need to put a bunch of really good games on it.

We are bored of the current standard controller designs (Xbox/PS controllers), but they are what they are for a reason - they're pretty much the best all-purpose controllers you can create. Nintendo isn't about to make a breakthrough with this Hey Arnold-lookin' contraption, and if this is actually real and the controller the NX will use, I seriously worry for Nintendo's future. How long can the success of the 3DS support them for? You'd think they would have gone with something safer after the Wii U happened.

 

[Fox318]

That same audience was also raised on hand me down iPhones or cheap $99 Chinese android tablets, and on the concept of paying exactly $0.00 for game software. And it's a set of ecosystems that even Microsoft with all of their money and might has yet to really crack. Good luck with that, Nintendo. I'm sure parents are just itching to buy their touch screen kids $200-300 dedicated video game consoles and $30-40 games again.

Ding ding ding.

 

[Peterc]

Where are the buttons?

If it's some touch screen shit... lol.

Damn, all the bad comments. It just being stupid.

I hate touch screen buttons. So I'm with everyone with that.


1. The design is final, do why bother...
2. You can feel the buttons, that means it could be the same as physical buttons. That also means that you can choose your own button layout.
3. First time it doesn't look like a cheap toy, but rather apple quality of design.


It still could be fake. But I want to give it a try, before judging...

 

[neemmss]

Is it just me or does the design remind you of a PS Vita? The edges just screem vita to me and that's not a bad thing!

 

[lt519]

Unless they design games around the controller...which they most certainly will.

And you don't trust Nintendo to fine tune controls and cameras for their games they design specifically for that controller? I mean that's like the one thing they are good at, perfecting the feel of controls.

If a developer wants to use physical buttons I'm sure they can opt for a Pro controller. Zelda NX will probably allow a Pro controller considering it's releasing on the Wii U too...

 

[zma1013]

The NX is only going to last tree years.

 

[Boke1879]

Will the the controller be the handheld device as well? It's the only way I can see why they'd have touch controls. That said I don't think the controls would work for a console game.

 

[SirPenguin]

To the folks convinced Nintendo will figure this out - I'd pump the breaks a bit

They're coming off of two rough landings in a row - WiiU and 3DS

It's prudent to remain skeptical

 

[ZeroMaverick]

https://www.reddit.com/r/NintendoNX/comments/4bnzsw/several_tactus_technology_patents_reference/

 

[Gamer @ Heart]

Please, someone, anyone. I need more details on the trees. Surely there is another reflection somewhere we can dissect

 

[synce]

If there's supposed to be buttons on the screen I think this thing will be their biggest flop yet. There's nothing more uncomfortable than trying to play traditional games on a touchscreen phone.

 

[theecakee]

I'll give them the benefit of the doubt to see...where they take this...but fuck.

 

[Already Torn]

Ahh the stick to replace the buttons. I missed that.

Its the handheld folks.

Ok, The Wiimotes did have only 1 stick. They did go to 2 for the Wii U. Maybe they are going back to 1 stick?

Cant be for home console, its missing too many other buttons. Shoulder buttons must gonna press in like L/R shoulder buttons. Like how mouse wheels do now. Still got the scroll wheels but they also press in.

It's not the handheld, it's the home console controller. It says it right there!

 

[Soapbox Killer]

I love this thing and there are at least 4 buttons 2 shoulder and 2 back or behind the device.


I'd bet folding money we get a Direct within the next week.

 

[Prisoner KSC2-303]

The HDMI cable in the first picture looks positioned as if it's just been disconnected from an HDMI out on the device. If it has that, and no buttons, then I'm guessing this (if real) is the handheld, rather than the home console pad.

 

[neto]

I really hope this is fake or the final product have buttons, I am a big Nintendo fan but they will have to work hard convince me to get this, so far I don't want it

 

[BRocknRolla]

I have to say, all the negativity about the touch controls really does sound like an old person yelling at the damn kids to get off their lawn.

While, generally speaking, I do prefer physical buttons, if a game plays well with touch controls, I see no reason we shouldn't be willing to give it a go. I hear the same bitching about Valve's controller when honestly the thing is pretty damn amazing (Not for all things, but it does so much more than any standard controller for PC gaming), but people won't give it the time of day because of the touch controls. It's all pretty unfair without actually trying it.

I think the same here. I too am skeptical, but we shouldn't be decrying it just yet.

I'd bet folding money we get a Direct within the next week.

Would be amazing if this was the end result of all this.

 

[Herb Alpert]

You mean, I'll have to play Monster Hunter on this? Without buttons?...

I mean...

 

[GifGafIsTheBestGaf]

Wow. So it was real huh

 

[PBY]

https://www.reddit.com/r/NintendoNX/comments/4bnzsw/several_tactus_technology_patents_reference/

So basically, more semi-confirmation.

 

[Little Mons†er]

In what context?

In the context of...
The Wii selling well over 100 million units WW proving the haters wrong putting them on top
The DS being one of the best selling consoles of ALL TIME
Nintendo turning over the 3DS from a flop to a top
Slaytoon literally slaying
N64 being a legacy console
NES saving the console industry
Nintendo setting the new norm
SNES sneezing the competition out of the water

Stay pressed because Nintendo survived 50 years and they will be here for another

 

[Kouriozan]

I'm not so sure that they'd actually develop the late port themselves. But who knows.

Indeed but they are probably working on the expansions which might come on NX at the same time as other consoles.
Of course, supposing it's legit.

 

[Alex]

People playing games on mobile aren't typically playing a lot of Nintendo or console style games, it's kind of a hard comparison. They're playing simple strategy games, puzzle games, building games, etc.

I am and always have been cool with touch screen controls but they work for some things and not others. I just think there's more to be seen because for as eccentric as Nintendo can be I don't think they're asinine enough to try and sell premium console games off of a standard touch interface with no other outs.

 

[Nickle]

I wish I could say that I trust Nintendo, but I really don't.

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

I love this thing and there are at least 4 buttons 2 shoulder and 2 back or behind the device.


I'd bet folding money we get a Direct within the next week.

Monopoly money???

 

[ZeroMaverick]

The HDMI cable in the first picture looks positioned as if it's just been disconnected from an HDMI out on the device. If it has that, and no buttons, then I'm guessing this (if real) is the handheld, rather than the home console pad.

If you take this photo to be real, then you have to take the post info to be real, which means this is the console controller for at the very least the dev kit.

 

[Anoregon]

Yeah...

That Wii U, which is discontinuing this year, was a real winner.

ssh don't try ruin pop-gaf style delusion, it's dangerous.

 

[Already Torn]

The HDMI cable in the first picture looks positioned as if it's just been disconnected from an HDMI out on the device. If it has that, and no buttons, then I'm guessing this (if real) is the handheld, rather than the home console pad.

But it's not the handheld, it's the console controller.

 

[KingBroly]

That same audience was also raised on hand me down iPhones or cheap $99 Chinese android tablets, and on the concept of paying exactly $0.00 for game software. And it's a set of ecosystems that even Microsoft with all of their money and might has yet to really crack. Good luck with that, Nintendo. I'm sure parents are just itching to buy their touch screen kids $200-300 dedicated video game consoles and $30-40 games again.

Microsoft can't even crack the ecosystem they started.

If I looked at a screen like that I'd go 'why's that different from my phone?' and if there are haptic buttons, aka ones that just magically pop up out of the screen, then you'd have my interest.

 

[FantasticMrFoxdie]

holy shit lol


I can't eat my crow cuz I'm vegetarian so I'll just have my crow substitute.