It's impossible for me to not rematch after a loss. I'm too damn salty to back out.
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It's impossible for me to not rematch after a loss. I'm too damn salty to back out.
Shadow_Lord
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I have been sharing tech the last three days ;_;. Gameplan is pressure. Get all up in that biz, frame trap with St.MP,or tick throw to command grab. After any powerbomb or throw, St.HK will crush counter anything not invincible, so condition them to block that, then dash in for another command grab or EX headbutt. After a forward throw, an LK slash will hit meaty and allow you to combo to Cr.MP.
Here is a video I made showing setplay from Alex:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOsfRG2I0PE
Also, after EX chop, dash in F.HP is an incredible meaty, as it either crush counters, or leaves you at +3
Id rather take the loss and learn from it than back out when Im salty.
So far though, losing to Nash has only taught me how to lose to Nash more.
Everytime I think Im playing one of those super defensive, back dash into the corner nashes. I get the super offensive frame trap nash and Vice versa.
Oh god I hate him.
Troubled Bat
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I really hate Alex's stance. It bothers me so much.
Romars202129
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I like to pick and choose. I know skill alone isn't getting me out of bronze. Why not strategize?
@Joe
I avoid playing salty when lp is on the line. It noticeably makes me play worse.
How are you pressuring so much though? Just spamming St. MP until it hits? Most of his buttons seem too slow or are unsafe, and none of his specials are safe unless spaced very carefully. Just seems like he has to work so much harder than any other character.
Shadow_Lord
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It's his legs. Why didn't they just flip them and make them more normal looking?
St.MP is +2, and so is Cr.LP, so you can tick throw to command grab. Maybe I'm just a fraud who gets by on Day 3 knowledge and Alex actually sucks at pressure
Romars202129
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It's his legs. Why didn't they just flip them and make them more normal looking?
He's positioned to throw out that horsekick.
Flash and elbow are pretty damn safe, they usually hit at ranges people can't retaliate. I'm sure I'll start getting checked by Ryu eventually maybe.
I don't think you have to worry about pressuring as Alex. Neutral he's good too, he's got great range and can fish for CCs. It's when they get in your face it gets scary.
Mediking
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It's his legs. Why didn't they just flip them and make them more normal looking?
I bet his waist and spine will shatter in a million pieces if he ever bumps something or falls down some stairs.
It's his legs. Why didn't they just flip them and make them more normal looking?
St.MP is +2, and so is Cr.LP, so you can tick throw to command grab. Maybe I'm just a fraud who gets by on Day 3 knowledge and Alex actually sucks at pressure
But what else can he do? St. MP is okay, but it's pretty short range. How should I be getting in in the first place?
And no, you're clearly good based on your comments here, but it's clear that a lot of people are having trouble understanding how to best utilize Alex's move set.
Don't worry about getting in, worry about keeping them out. He outranges most the cast except Dhalsim, and fireballs don't phase him.
What's your cfn, if we got a decent connection we could mirror match. West coast only would work.
Shadow_Lord
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That's admittedly the struggle of Alex, and you have to take risks with that. You can try going in with regular elbows, as they have enough pushblock to be semi-safe. EX headbutts are hard to react to from mid range. V-Skill and fishing for a St.HK is risky but it is an option too.
Shadow is saying you should maintain pressure, but I'm leaning more towards what you're saying based on what I'm seeing from Alex. He seems to thrive on pokes and surprise rush ins for throws. My only problem with that is that his damage output seems really low.
I'd be super down for some games, but I may not have time tonight.
I should probably play around with his elbow more, since I haven't really utilized it much yet.
Shadow_Lord
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I guess that's the beauty of fighting games. You can have the same character, but two players play him completely different. I'm definitely a rushdown monster, but others might prefer to stay back.
How do you counter or stop Zangiefs critical art? I feel like you have a fraction of a milisecond to react before he instantly grabs and your dead since it seems like it does far more damage than other CA's do.
Also why does it seem like matchmaking really likes pairing you against the same person again even after you decline to replay them?
Also why does it seem like matchmaking really likes pairing you against the same person again even after you decline to replay them?
I can never condition people to stop jumping as Vega. v_v no matter how many air to airs they will always jump because they know it will work once and once they are in that ass they got him on lock.
I need to figure out some better block strings and frame traps. And the timing on claw meaties is tricky, man
You don't. You have to know ahead of time and jump before the animation flash. If you are caught on the ground when the animation starts you are dead.
I need to figure out some better block strings and frame traps. And the timing on claw meaties is tricky, man
You don't. You have to know ahead of time and jump before the animation flash. If you are caught on the ground when the animation starts you are dead.
the struggle is real T_T
Shadow_Lord
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Alex's Cr.MP is a really great poke. It's -1 on block, but it has a ton of range, and on hit, you can pop V-Trigger and go into super, or Cr.HP into EX Chop.
I'm trying to go for more tick throw setups with his MP and seem to be having more luck. We'll see how far this takes me.
Gotcha, I'll keep playing around with him.
Shadow_Lord
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I'm trying to go for more tick throw setups with his MP and seem to be having more luck. We'll see how far this takes me.
Gotcha, I'll keep playing around with him.
A risky tick throw is Cr.LK into command grab. Cr.LK is 0 on block so they can poke you out of it, but it's +4 on hit, so the grab will always hit and not whiff like it would from St.MP on hit. And since it's a low, the human mind is conditioned to keep holding down back to block it, so it almost always works. Of course if someone starts jumping and you get a read, use the anti-air grab.
Alex is that dude at the gym that lifts the heaviest weights with the shittiest form but is still somehow swole as fuck.
Romars202129
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I got to quit tonight. Lounges might be ruined for me. Everybody just uses Alex, badly. I want to tighten my game on better players and they just want to show me their shitty Alex's.
Jab into flash woooooow
Jab into flash woooooow
Hey man, the only way to not be a shitty Alex is to first be a shitty Alex.
This will probably be a trend going forward when every new character is released. Although not to this degree because I doubt they will give us a trial run again. But they should.
Do you know what his best non meter punishes are, both for crush counters and when the opponent is stunned? A stunned opponent is the only time I can get his HP Flash chop into grab to work, but I feel like that's not optimal (which makes me wonder what the hell his HP chop is even for if you can't confirm it off of anything but a counter his HP).
Augemitbutter
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yea, i only see alex in lobby. haven't met him in casuals.
Shadow_Lord
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St.HK, St.HP, MK Elbow. Generally, if I get a crush counter, I use meter for EX chop at the end to get a better setup.
In the corner, CC St.HK, HK Elbow, Cr.HP, LK Leg smash. I'd use meter for EX leg smash because you get a meaty St.HK afterwards but that's just me lol
Emperor Bohe
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Woo, got Alex's Trials, and Easy, Normal and Hard Survival done. Gotta get that freebie FM while he's in demo mode.
My brain is now mush.
Any tips for hard survival?
I play only casuals and I see him 1 out of 3 times
Romars202129
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Stantron
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Sorry, this is probably common knowledge, but alt+tab just minimizes steam and shows desktop; not exit the game? Are you saying that if you alt+tab before a match is completely over, it counts as a quit? Asking so I don't accidentally do this.
I played GootecksShimmy on his Alex earlier (he got banned right? anyway) and I got caught by that stupid frame trap so many times. The 5th time it happened I yelled at my screen lol. He was playing pretty aggressively, but I was doing a terrible job denying him grabs. Did not hold up like a scrub.
Input Error misadventures continue
The scenario:
Myself, playing Vega against an R Mika. I'm in the corner but have bought some breathing room with quick jabs. I've been smacked around enough to lose the claw. I want to get out.and have three meters but no v-trigger. I jump with a crossup lk intending to go for a command grab when I hit the ground.
I input the half circle and instead of tick command grab I somehow get tick Critical Art, counterhitting the correct guess of the Mika that I was going to do a throw of some sort on the ground.
I don't even know how I would replicate that intentionally lol
Maybe I should though
The scenario:
Myself, playing Vega against an R Mika. I'm in the corner but have bought some breathing room with quick jabs. I've been smacked around enough to lose the claw. I want to get out.and have three meters but no v-trigger. I jump with a crossup lk intending to go for a command grab when I hit the ground.
I input the half circle and instead of tick command grab I somehow get tick Critical Art, counterhitting the correct guess of the Mika that I was going to do a throw of some sort on the ground.
I don't even know how I would replicate that intentionally lol
Maybe I should though
He got banned? Lol I remember there were like 3 RQers in this thread. That was a fun week.
Btw Juicebox is using Alex on his stream, pretty good stuff. www.twitch.tv/juicebox_fgc
nadeshiko = hidden missiles of sfv
this happened earlier on daigo's stream between fuudo's mika and tokido's ryu
https://twitter.com/Furious_blog/status/716136807461552128
this happened earlier on daigo's stream between fuudo's mika and tokido's ryu
https://twitter.com/Furious_blog/status/716136807461552128
BlackBanditSho
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Does anyone here who watches Mike Ross' Capcom Fighters Pro Talk know if the show is really cancelled? I've only JUST discovered this gem and I can't stop watching it. The FGC is unique in gaming in that it's really probably the only true all embracing community in gaming. This show reminds me of everything I love and miss about the gaming community I grew up with. It's hilarious and fantastic and I truly hope that it isn't finished.
do not believe everything mike says lol the show will never get cancelled. viewership is at the highest currently (10k people watched the latest episode with marn and floe live).
if you haven't, you should catch previous cpt episodes from last year especially ones with kbrad.
BlackBanditSho
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Yeah, I just watched the one where Kbrad started calling out people that he deemed scrubs. The episode ended with Mike putting his Cammy down for the count. I couldn't stop laughing. This show is GREAT.
Where did you hear it was cancelled.
Anyways that latest episode with Marn is pretty amazing. Hilarious show.
BlackBanditSho
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Guess I'm not fully used to Mike's style yet. He was sounding pretty morbid about this being the last episode in the 3/22 ep. I guess he says that a lot or that I read too much into it. Either way, looking forward to watching the Marn episode. That guy is fascinating.
"We're canceled" is a recurring joke.
CPT is doing like 10,000 viewers and growing. I think it's gonna be alright for as long as the Pro Tour itself is around.
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
So I found out that the "300 online wins" achievement is tied to ranked mode only, so I went back to that mode for the first time in a month. I had stopped playing after I reached Gold. A lot of other players have filtered up to the Silver and Gold ranks in the interim, so it's actually not to hard to acquire a lot of LP in one sitting again.
BTW, does Alex have a set of colors 11-15 of his own? I don't see any in the shop for him.
Time consuming grind for the first ~90%.
Infuriatingly input-reading difficult for the rest.
BTW, does Alex have a set of colors 11-15 of his own? I don't see any in the shop for him.
Time consuming grind for the first ~90%.
Infuriatingly input-reading difficult for the rest.
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