Wag
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Ryan Reynolds is pretty good when cast right. Have you seen The Voices? He was great in that.
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Devin Faraci: What BvS Second Week Drop Means For The DC Movieverse
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Ryan Reynolds is pretty good when cast right. Have you seen The Voices? He was great in that.
titiklabingapat
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You're watching a movie where a man wearing his underwear inside out and a wealthy individual wearing a bat suit are fighting it out.
DryEyeRelief
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There is no red undies in MoS or BvS.
ElBoxyBrown
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No underwear this time!
Discotheque
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broncobuster
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Taika's going to bring back the dutch angles to Thor.
old manatee
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MHWilliams
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The trick with Wildstorm is, like Warner Bros' plan for DCEU, it very creator driven. Right creator and the books sing. Wrong creator, they plummet to Earth.
Warren Ellis's run on Stormwatch:
- Force of Nature
- Lightning Strikes
- Change or Die
- A Finer World
- Final Orbit
That leads into Warren Ellis' run on the Authority, collected in two trade paperbacks:
- Relentless
- Under New Management
Mark Millar's run is a decent follow-up, but Ellis' story is where it's at. Millar's run is in two trades:
- Earth Inferno and Other Stories
- Transfer of Power
Alan Moore's run on Wildcats is uneven, but delivers in the end.
- WildC.A.T.s: Homecoming
- WildC.A.T.s: Gang War
Joe Casey's run on Wildcats is superior.
- Wildcats: Vicious Circles
- Wildcats: Serial Boxes
- Wildcats: Battery Park
- Wildcats 3.0 Year One
- Wildcats 3.0 Year Two
Likewise, his run on Majestic is Big Picture Superman at its best.
- Mr. Majestic
Ellis' Planetary is quite possibility the high point of the Wildstorm universe and one of the few stories that gets a proper end.
- Volume 1: All Over the World and Other Stories
- Volume 2: The Fourth Man
- Volume 3: Leaving the 20th Century
- Volume 4: Spacetime Archaeology
That's not counting other imprints, including America's Best Comics.
Dark and Gritty!
we had a drinking game when that series dropped. Every time someone said "justice" you took a shot
Bobby Roberts
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Planetary is some of the best comics that ever comicked.
Discotheque
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my only familiarity with the authority is the planetary series and the mcmahon legacy in wwe.
weren't they basically DC hero analogies? midnighter even looks like batman in certain panels.
weren't they basically DC hero analogies? midnighter even looks like batman in certain panels.
Audiences don't seem to like this movie. People who crowded theaters opening weekend aren't rewatching it, and they're not telling their friends to go watch it.
That's a bad sign for Justice League. If WB doesn't just delay the film and replace Snyder, then I'm guessing they exert way more control of the production.
And did someone call Thor a mythological epic?
That's a bad sign for Justice League. If WB doesn't just delay the film and replace Snyder, then I'm guessing they exert way more control of the production.
And did someone call Thor a mythological epic?
slightconfuse
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How are you still alive
Schweinehund
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Nice detailed rec's. I'd like to make a gaf google spreadsheet for comic recommendations sometime where we can add them all together and just keep reposting a link to it. A tab for each publisher, creators and major characters.
I know zombine did a nice writeup but it would be easier in the long run.
I know zombine did a nice writeup but it would be easier in the long run.
ugh, you're the worst kind of "fan."
it needs to remain a comic too.
Bobby Roberts
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There isn't a network in existence that has the discretionary funds needed to even attempt adapting that shit.
(which is one of the bigger reasons live-action adaptation is such a limiting, inappropriate method for comics. So it makes sense it's widely considered the only viable option.)
that art though.
truth. I just read it all the way through last year. It was amazing to read it back to back instead of the long, interrupted release schedule it was published in.
Jables Swan
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I can't believe what I'm reading. Fury Road was 100% fun. Such a fantastic movie. I think you're confusing fun with funny.
MHWilliams
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Harken Raiser
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It really isn't the tone of BvS that's the issue, so much as the quality of the movie, or lack thereof.
Wow, someone saw a Masamune Shirow manga... once... at their friend's house.
I agree. Hollywood needs to explore superheroes with more animated movies.
Wow, someone saw a Masamune Shirow manga... once... at their friend's house.
I agree. Hollywood needs to explore superheroes with more animated movies.
Damn I remember Sleeper-that was a great fucking book.
i fear that they would still try and manage to fuck it up. especially if it somehow manages to catch fire like watchmen did. unaware of the pacing and extras that makes it as special as it is.
Discotheque
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you could give some of the one-off issues to random directors. this is just low hanging fruit but john woo could make the ghost cop one for instance.
as a whole yeah it can't be a film series or even one on TV without a good budget and removing elements.
killertofu
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As much "fun" as Marvel super hero movies are...I think they're gonna be super dated in the future. I think in 10-20 years, we'll look at the MCU and cringe. Hell, even Thor and a few others are showing their age. They were fun, low hanging fruit that got an easy pass from people because they're so light.
At least Snyder was trying to push for more. Doesn't mean he succeeded though.
At least Snyder was trying to push for more. Doesn't mean he succeeded though.
Bobby Roberts
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The good news is that it's just low-key enough, and just under the radar enough that the only people who would actually want to adapt it are the very people who know such a task is supremely fuckin impossible, and wouldn't even try.
Still though - the counterproductive conventional wisdom regarding the viability of animation as the primary means of theatrical comic book adaptation is partially why it's still such a touchy struggle to get any of these stories told half as well as we'd all like them to be. That not a single studio has even attempted to take a popular superhero and use Pixar as a model instead of Burton/Donner/Whedon... it's fucking baffling.
"How do we translate this visual medium into another visual medium?"
"I know! Let's drain the color out of everything, chain everything to semi-realistic physics, burden the storytelling with "real world" excuses for why people are doing these superhuman things, and limit how long we can keep this up due to actors getting old/tired/sick of the bullshit."
"...I was thinking maybe we like, just make the pictures we already have, like, yunno... move?"
"SHUT UP IDIOT AND GET ZACK SNYDER ON THE FUCKING PHONE NOW"
mythological epic
You mean to tell me the "Thor eats at Denny's" scene wasn't mythic or epic?
You lie, good sir.
This is why I'm rooting for Lego Batman.
Didn't Fox do a prequel telling the origin of the villains in planetary last year?
ok this gif is amazing. lmao
They still ain't grim ass movies like BvS and you guys don't even considered them superheroes
Bobby Roberts
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This is good.
Don't you mean Limbo?
MHWilliams
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Seeing as how that sunk, im sure it was.
BudokaiMR2
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ITT: People don't understand the difference between epic used as a noun vs. adjective. /cue maddox page
Thor 1 is not one of my favorite movies in the MCU, but I really enjoyed the Asgard scenes especially and actually did feel like the film did a good job in capturing some aspects of classic 'epic' literature and shoehorning them into a Hollywood blockbuster.
Might need a re-watch though. heh
Thor 1 is not one of my favorite movies in the MCU, but I really enjoyed the Asgard scenes especially and actually did feel like the film did a good job in capturing some aspects of classic 'epic' literature and shoehorning them into a Hollywood blockbuster.
Might need a re-watch though. heh
Damn. Took me a minute.
Um...
Thor is NOT a mythological epic, Cap A is a war movie for 50% of the running time, Iron Man 3 is a crime drama for even less, Winter Soldier's kinda a spy drama, nothing about Thor 2 is epic, GOTG I'll give you that.
Marvel's talk of diverse films is utter twaddle. They have different lead characters, but the films use 'different genres' in the vaguest possible terms. Ant-Man and GOTG are the only films which deviate strongly from the norm, and even then it's not like they went for wildly different tones - they stick to the Iron Man school of jokey blockbuster.
And I have to say... Iron Man 3 is a crime drama, really? Really?
Rimon-hanit
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I love you.
IdreamofHIME
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The greatest thing Marvel did was cast RDJ.
I can imagine Iron Man 1 being just as bleak as BVS with some other actor trying to tap into the terror theme and Tony a more somber figure crying over his dead daddy, being a POW and selling weapons to ISIS.
RDJ had none of it and made the character a parody of himself, which in turn set the template for Thor and Cap.
None of the BVS cast seem to realise they were in a movie that intended to sell Pyjamas and Toys to under 10s...never mind what the fuck Snyder's intentions are/were.
I can imagine Iron Man 1 being just as bleak as BVS with some other actor trying to tap into the terror theme and Tony a more somber figure crying over his dead daddy, being a POW and selling weapons to ISIS.
RDJ had none of it and made the character a parody of himself, which in turn set the template for Thor and Cap.
None of the BVS cast seem to realise they were in a movie that intended to sell Pyjamas and Toys to under 10s...never mind what the fuck Snyder's intentions are/were.
Discotheque
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eisenberg certainly did.
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