Mihael Mello Keehl
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Whatever I aint posting threads no more.. Im salty 😪It's cause your black. The mod told me. #BlackLivesMatter
Kidding.
Whatever I aint posting threads no more.. Im salty 😪It's cause your black. The mod told me. #BlackLivesMatter
Kidding.
Let me elaborate. First, staying at 40nm for edram now means they will likely have to ride out the generation at 40nm. When 28nm has been the norm for years, and 14nm will likely be the norm next year. That would put them at a far greater disadvantage than whatever that 32MB/64MB might give them. Second, just think of it - AMD's Seattle and Jaguars/Pumas are all 28nm. AMD has nothing contemprary in the 40nm range (bobcats and terascale, ahoy!)More probable than 14nm and Polaris, which i am entertaining.
Thanks for the detailed answers.
Is it possible but not improbable that Nintendo would with a 40nm fab process again to get 64mb+ edram in their SOC. They can use some really customized 40nm parts from AMD. I don't think they'll be able to fit the 16 rops needed for 1080p 60fps ports. Perf would be 4x Wii U max. Yuck.
Updated as requested. And some important info on the ps's too.
Edit: "at least 6 threads each" = each console, not each CPU.
Updated as requested. And some important info on the ps's too.
Edit: "at least 6 threads each" = each console, not each CPU.
This recent leak about Zelda just reinforces the fact that Nintendo cant wait until E3 to unveil the NX. leaks are inevitable and leakers will unveil it for them if they wait that much.
Yep, 40nm doesn't make sense. Never did.
How can you possibly come up with a chart where almost ALL of the unknown information is guessed at?? How do people even begin to make these and not think they're silly?
That was my question as well. It makes no sense to me.
Updated as requested. And some important info on the ps's too.
Edit: "at least 6 threads each" = each console, not each CPU.
Seriously chart fucks with my mind.Dude, not going to lie, but I have no idea what is going on with this chart.
Dude, not going to lie, but I have no idea what is going on with this chart.
Updated as requested. And some important info on the ps's too.
Edit: "at least 6 threads each" = each console, not each CPU.
Blue = CPU Power?
Yellow = GPU?
Red = Amount of RAM available to devs?
.Well they closed my Zelda U rumors thread. See why I dont post threads? Dont ask me or my son to make a thread ever again!
Sorry for closing your thread Mihaell!!!!! My first thought was to either merge them or close the older one, and I assumed yours was older than it was!!!!!!
Would be nice to add in Wii U too, and more lines for the y axis..
Ahhh thanks!
Its done with..This thread has officially hit the random and meaningless chart posting phase. Excellent.
Y would NX PS4 and Xb1 have different amounts of ram?
It's more about RAM speed than the amount of RAM that the NX Console would have compared to the Xbox One.Y would NX PS4 and Xb1 have different amounts of ram?
Would be nice to add in Wii U too, and more lines for the y axis..
Amount available to developers I guess?
Would be nice to add in Wii U too, and more lines for the y axis..
That's quite informative, thanks!Someone at TSMC authored a document on 28nm EDRAM, FYI.
http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/login.jsp?tp=&arnumber=6131608&url=http%3A%2F%2Fieeexplore.ieee.org%2Fiel5%2F6123666%2F6131464%2F06131608.pdf%3Farnumber%3D6131608
It doesn't look like it amounted to anything, though.
Sounds romantic. What's her name?That's quite informative, thanks!
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Would be nice to add in Wii U too, and more lines for the y axis..
What's more pointless is comparing the NX with this PS4k.Is that not a pointless comparison ?
I always suspected the PS3 had a lot of blue, but never realized just how much.
It's a relatively short document, and not too advanced. I can post the conclusion:That's quite informative, thanks!
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I wonder though if Nintendo could go with something more exotic like Z-RAM (due to AMD involvement), but that technology isn't too mature I think.Conclusion
We have demonstrated a 28nm high-performance,
high-density HKMG eDRAM process technology that
achieves 600MHz random access frequency. Access
transistors, with industrys smallest 28/20nm cells
(0.035/0.021 um²
), generate an ION of >50uA with an IOFF
of <1fA/ <3fA, respectively. It paves a clear path for
future cell scaling. The CMOS and MIM reliability tests
confirm our high-quality MIM capacitor construction that
is also HKMG process compatible.
What's more pointless is comparing the NX with this PS4k.
Are you saying NX release will be 2017?Why? Both console will come out around the same time.
Are you saying NX release will be 2017?
Also I don't think the NX is aiming for a 4k output, either.
I don't get why the comparison then.Neither will the PS4K to be fair. Or at least not a native render.
Would be nice to add in Wii U too, and more lines for the y axis..
Rösti;200500790 said:It's a relatively short document, and not too advanced. I can post the conclusion:
I wonder though if Nintendo could go with something more exotic like Z-RAM (due to AMD involvement), but that technology isn't too mature I think.
As Z-RAM has yet to appear in any products by this point, I very much doubt we'll ever see it. I'd take the same philosophy to 28nm eDRAM. There were a few comments by Renesas about planned 28nm eDRAM around 2010, but the fact that we haven't seen any four years in to the node, it's likely that there simply weren't enough customers to make it commercially viable. Nowadays pretty much the only companies you'll see researching eDRAM are Intel and IBM, because they don't need customers for it, it's all for their own chips.
Lol.
Would be nice to add in Wii U too, and more lines for the y axis..
"Beating the Jaguar is trivial" = Lol (yes, obviously), that's allWhat was funny?
Jaguar
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6974/amd-kabini-review/3
Contrast to A72 benchmarks, an ARM core.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9878/the-huawei-mate-8-review/3
"Beating the Jaguar is trivial" = Lol (yes, obviously), that's all
Ok, I thought you were saying the opposite
Some people in the reddit post seem convinced no possible ARM core could beat the PS4s CPU and it's making my brain itch lol. i.e.
https://www.reddit.com/r/NintendoNX...the_af_lockdown_now_claim_your_reward/d1qntuo