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Update: Mobapad has put an EN article directly on their website with all the Switch 2 details they've gotten their hands on - https://www.mobapad.com/blogs/the-l...witch-2/the-latest-scoop-on-nintendo-switch-2

"We, like everyone else, are eagerly anticipating accurate information about the Switch 2!

In the process of developing the next-generation console controller, Mobapad has also acquired a lot of firsthand information about the Switch 2, and now we're here to share it with everyone.

1. The Switch 2 will continue to support existing Joy-Cons and the Pro Controller, still equipped with ALPS dual-axis linear motors for HD rumble.
2. The cartridge slot of the Switch 2 will support backward compatibility with physical Switch game cartridges, ensuring compatibility with players' existing game libraries, including digital versions. However, the second-generation cartridges may not be compatible with the first-generation console.
3. The new version of Joy-Con has a larger volume, and the sliding rail structure has been changed to magnetic suction. The SL and SR buttons are metal buttons. Magnetic suction is achieved through electromagnetic suction technology, controlled by electric current. It's worth noting that, in addition to the L, ZL, R, and ZR buttons on the sides of the Joy-Con controller, a third button has been added on both the left and right sides.

Additionally, below the HOME button on the right Joy-Con, there is an additional function button!

1. The bottom of the Switch 2 will still feature a USB-C port for docking, and the new generation dock will undergo minor changes in appearance while enhancing performance, supporting 4K resolution.
2. The new dock will feature a damping bracket on the back, allowing for a greater range of adjustable angles.
3. The screen will be upgraded to an 8-inch display, supporting 1080P resolution.

These are just some of the hardware information we've got, and not the full extent.

From a hardware perspective, the Switch 2 inherits the dual-mode feature of its predecessor, continuing Nintendo's conservative approach to hardware."

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Spoiler: Original info from the OP

This was noticed and posted on era by --R a short while ago.

The original info was up since a couple of days ago on Mobapad's Facebook, but it looks they've reposted it on their Bilibili page today.

Here's a summary of what they posted:

1. The Bluetooth chip of Switch 2 still supports existing Joy-Con and Pro controllers, and still features HD vibration (ALPS dual-axis linear motor).
2. Switch 2 has backwards compatibility with Switch 1 cartridges, but Switch 2 cartridges will be different and won't fit on a Switch 1.
3. The new joycons are larger and are magnetically attached to the console with an electromagnet. The SL and SR buttons are metallic now, and there's a new button behind each joycon (location where the button is) and a new button below the home button on the right joycon (location where the button is).
4. The dock still has an USB-C port and will also support 4K image output.
5. The new kickstand also has a damping bracket on the back for improved angle adjustment.
6. The screen is bigger, up to 8 inches and the resolution is upgraded to 1080p.

Source - https://www.bilibili.com/opus/925030436838572049
Archive of the page in case it gets removed

As with all the Switch 2 rumors take it with a grain of salt.

Edit: Small typo in the title - The manufacturer is Mobapad and not Mopad. The title is too long anyways so I won't ask a mod to edit out the typo.

 

[Brock2621]

Electromagnet? So do they fall off when the console is off or is there some serious vampire power drain on the battery?

 

[Robb]

Switch 2 has backwards compatibility with Switch 1 cartridges, but Switch 2 cartridges will be different and won't fit on a Switch 1.

 

[Thick Thighs Save Lives]

Seriously this was the best Switch 2 rumor I've read all year long. Really happy it this is indeed true.

 

[LavitzSlambert]

I wonder what that button on the rear of the joycon will be used for, seems too high for a back/paddle but does it need to be that large simply to detach them?

 

[Drell]

Hmm I hope the battery will be enough to offer us a decent play time with the extra power and the 1080p screen. I still think 720p is enough for a portable console but I won't complain, that's a nice update.

 

[Fake]

PS4 1080p level with DLSS is the best scenario.

 

[Tarin02543]

Electromagnet? So do they fall off when the console is off or is there some serious vampire power drain on the battery?

30 minutes battery life

 

[McRazzle]

Electromagnet? So do they fall off when the console is off or is there some serious vampire power drain on the battery?

Possibly an electropermanent magnet.
Electrical charge is only used when turning the magnet "on/off".

Also, the SL and SR buttons might have magnets in them since their metallic, which could be for adaptive triggers like in the PS5 Dual Sense.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electropermanent_magnet#

An electropermanent magnet or EPM is a type of permanent magnet in which the external magnetic field can be switched on or off by a pulse of electric current in a wire winding around part of the magnet.

 

[McRazzle]

I wonder what that button on the rear of the joycon will be used for, seems too high for a back/paddle but does it need to be that large simply to detach them?

Trackpad?

 

[Miyazaki’s Slave]

Physical BC is great for switch games, no mention of an sd card slot isn't concerning yet.

Switch 2 games digital download only but a physical slot for Nintendo proprietary storage?

 

[Poppyseed]

Speaking of MOBAPAD, the M6-HD is the best Joycon replacement, period. It’s just amazing.

 

[DownLikeBCPowder]

Physical BC, hell yes baby. That's what I want to hear. Hardware compatibility with the old joy-cons too? Fire.

Not surprised at all that they are using a slightly different style cartridge that can't fit in the original switch, exactly what was done with DS to 3DS which is what I would have anticipated.

Day 0!

Edit: I would love to see adaptive triggers in the next Nintendo system, it's one of my favorite things about the PlayStation 5.

 

[Aldric]

Finally some leaks that sound credible.

Backwards compatibility was never really in doubt but good to see more things pointing towards a confirmation.

 

[nush]

Switch 2 has backwards compatibility with Switch 1 cartridges, but Switch 2 cartridges will be different and won't fit on a Switch 1.

Gameboy, Gameboy Color only method.

 

[ReyBrujo]

Possibly an electropermanent magnet.
Electrical charge is only used when turning the magnet "on/off".

I was thinking about something purely mechanic, just like the base magnets in precision instruments (half a turn to align magnets to create the field) but EPM seems plausible, similar to the portable magnetic drills. Kind of wondering if they would interfere with electronics considering it should be somewhat powerful without rails.

 

[SenkiDala]

All of those are good news.
Backcompat, bigger screen, 1080 on handheld, 4K output on TV, that's all I wanted.

 

[Badlucktroll]

 

[splattered]

Wonder how they're gonna fit call of duty on this... larger internal storage? Larger storage on switch 2 cartridges?

 

[Chukhopops]

Physical BC would bring new life to a ton of Switch games with really bad performance.

I don’t know if it’s true but if it is, I’m in. I’m also in if it’s not true and there’s only license-based BC.

 

[S0ULZB0URNE]

HDR support for Switch 1 games would be great.

 

[Bernoulli]

4K output

 

[Exede]

Physical BC would bring new life to a ton of Switch games with really bad performance.

I don’t know if it’s true but if it is, I’m in. I’m also in if it’s not true and there’s only license-based BC.

Looking at you XBC 2

 

[Moses85]

 

[Magic Carpet]

Electromagnetic Youtubes thingamajig

 

[ZoukGalaxy]

Sounds too good to be true, so, let's be true

 

[StereoVsn]

That was my main fear for Switch 2, so if true that’s awesome.

 

[ManaByte]

Wonder how they're gonna fit call of duty on this... larger internal storage? Larger storage on switch 2 cartridges?

Maybe MS will crack the whip and tell them to stop making such bloated shit.

 

[Gameplay Gods Bless]

This was noticed and posted on era by --R a short while ago.

The original info was up since a couple of days ago on Mobapad's Facebook, but it looks they've reposted it on their Bilibili page today.

Here's a summary of what they posted:

1. The Bluetooth chip of Switch 2 still supports existing Joy-Con and Pro controllers, and still features HD vibration (ALPS dual-axis linear motor).
2. Switch 2 has backwards compatibility with Switch 1 cartridges, but Switch 2 cartridges will be different and won't fit on a Switch 1.
3. The new joycons are larger and are magnetically attached to the console with an electromagnet. The SL and SR buttons are metallic now, and there's a new button behind each joycon (location where the button is) and a new button below the home button on the right joycon (location where the button is).
4. The dock still has an USB-C port and will also support 4K image output.
5. The new kickstand also has a damping bracket on the back for improved angle adjustment.
6. The screen is bigger, up to 8 inches and the resolution is upgraded to 1080p.

Source - https://www.bilibili.com/opus/925030436838572049
Archive of the page in case it gets removed

As with all the Switch 2 rumors take it with a grain of salt.

Edit: Small typo in the title - The manufacturer is Mobapad and not Mopad. The title is too long anyways so I won't ask a mod to edit out the typo.

Fuck I was hoping they didn't go 1080p, unfortunate but great for indie games. Will Nintendo be the first console maker to have paddles standard on the controller (back buttons) it's only 2 paddles instead of the standard 4 but something is better than nothing.

 

[Feel Like I'm On 42]

If its only physical BC I'm gonna going to throw a fit

 

[splattered]

Maybe MS will crack the whip and tell them to stop making such bloated shit.

Is it because they kinda combine multiple titles into one launcher?

 

[Bitmap Frogs]

If its only physical BC I'm gonna going to throw a fit

If there's cartridge BC there's no reason there's no downloaded BC.

We all know nintendo gonna nintendo, but that would even too much for them, surely? hopefuly?

 

[Kataploom]

If its only physical BC I'm gonna going to throw a fit

They've said repeatedly that the reasons for them revamping their account system when Switch came out was to offer players long term support or something within those lines, that basically confirmed Switch 2 backward compatibility before even Switch was announced, I don't get the constant "concerns" some of you show regarding it

 

[ManaByte]

Is it because they kinda combine multiple titles into one launcher?

No, even with JUST MWIII MP and no campaign and no Warzone it's nearly 170GB.

 

[flipsake]

I know it's off topic but have Nintendo ever said anything official about the prospect of introducing system wide achievements? Have they stated they are against them or is there any possibility of having them on Switch 2?

 

[Deerock71]

I know it's off topic but have Nintendo ever said anything official about the prospect of introducing system wide achievements? Have they stated they are against them or is there any possibility of having them on Switch 2?

Yes. It's gonna be called collecting bells.

 

[Feel Like I'm On 42]

Hmm I hope the battery will be enough to offer us a decent play time with the extra power and the 1080p screen. I still think 720p is enough for a portable console but I won't complain, that's a nice update.

1080p is important it's gonna make a big difference on a small screen...720 is "enough" but not quite enough to have excellent image quality.

 

[AJUMP23]

Just waiting for the real announcement. But fun to speculate.

 

[flipsake]

I think achievements would be a great way to encourage people to buy a Switch 2 is they could earn achievements by playing their older games on the new console.

 

[Metnut]

I would like to purchase this.

 

[Badlucktroll]

mario time! wah-hoo!

 

[hybrid_birth]

Thick Lies Destroy Fanboy Lives

 

[cash_longfellow]

I know it's off topic but have Nintendo ever said anything official about the prospect of introducing system wide achievements? Have they stated they are against them or is there any possibility of having them on Switch 2?

They talked about adding them on the Switch before launch. Don’t know what ever happened with it…and it’s also the reason I don’t play on the Switch. If they add on the Switch 2 I’m in, if not, I have no interest.

 

[Feel Like I'm On 42]

They've said repeatedly that the reasons for them revamping their account system when Switch came out was to offer players long term support or something within those lines, that basically confirmed Switch 2 backward compatibility before even Switch was announced, I don't get the constant "concerns" some of you show regarding it

What I'm concerned about is ...what do they mean by "Physical BC"? Does that mean ONLY physical will be BC? Or does that mean "full BC- both digital and physical"??

Because I own a massive library on digital.

 

[Dacvak]

What I'm concerned about is ...what do they mean by "Physical BC"? Does that mean ONLY physical will be BC? Or does that mean "full BC- both digital and physical"??

Because I own a massive library on digital.

There is exactly a 0% chance that they would offer physical BC and not digital BC.

Re magnets:
Fwiw, I have a PIMAX Portal, which is the exact form factor as a Switch, but it has magnetic joy cons. They’re not electromagnet or anything, just some pretty strong magnets. It works great imo. I’ve never had them come off the console by accident, plus they magnetically connect to each other, making a small standard controller. (Sadly the device itself sucks because the buttons are hot ass.)

 

[Kataploom]

What I'm concerned about is ...what do they mean by "Physical BC"? Does that mean ONLY physical will be BC? Or does that mean "full BC- both digital and physical"??

Because I own a massive library on digital.

Obviously both, considering Nintendo's own words regarding building long term trust with customers using their account system. I don't see how one should be considered honestly.

 

[Dacvak]

Possibly an electropermanent magnet.
Electrical charge is only used when turning the magnet "on/off".

Also, the SL and SR buttons might have magnets in them since their metallic, which could be for adaptive triggers like in the PS5 Dual Sense.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electropermanent_magnet#

An electropermanent magnet or EPM is a type of permanent magnet in which the external magnetic field can be switched on or off by a pulse of electric current in a wire winding around part of the magnet.

I’m too dumb to read words, but I found this 1 minute video that explains everything for any other dipshits like me.

 

[Roronoa Zoro]

joycons bigger?

 

[poppabk]

Physical BC, hell yes baby. That's what I want to hear. Hardware compatibility with the old joy-cons too? Fire.

Not surprised at all that they are using a slightly different style cartridge that can't fit in the original switch, exactly what was done with DS to 3DS which is what I would have anticipated.

Day 0!

Edit: I would love to see adaptive triggers in the next Nintendo system, it's one of my favorite things about the PlayStation 5.

Yeah let's go for 60 minutes battery life.

 

[ArtHands]

Here's hoping for some news on analog triggers and compatibility with more peripherals like flight stick.