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Battlefield 1 Reveal Trailer, PC/PS4/XB1, Oct 21st [Up2: Screens, Info, Open Beta]

Mahonay

Banned
Anyone assuming they'd give away the maps for free was absolutely kidding themselves.

I always end up paying the 50 bucks since Battlefield is my primary game. I was pretty happy with all of the BF4 DLC. The maps were nicely varied and had a ton of new weapons/vehicles.
 

5taquitos

Member
I feel like you could make premium just two weeks early access to the maps and then they're free for everyone, plus a bunch of extra battlepacks and shit, and people would still buy the shit out of it.

I hate what paid maps do to servers.
 
The content self was always worth it. But after a month alot of servers with dlc maps are dead and alot of people go back again to vanilla. Wich is such a shame always.

I can always find a game on BF4, there's half a dozen servers running them whenever I check and I only play hardcore. Still, I hate locking maps behind premium, so shit and even worse it's just accepted as the norm now.
 

Theorry

Member
Yeah wouldn't it be nice to have free stuff. Who cares how DICE makes money, give me free stuff!

sarcasm

Shit ton of money to be earned with skins, camo's, battlepacks etc. Halo 5 showed that.
He sell only weapons with premium and no maps. Just dont split the userbase.
 
How is the coloring done for this and for the videos of that era?

I do this from time to time. Here's one that I'm working on at the moment. It's currently a work in progress which is why some spots are still black and white.

Tml821g.jpg


It's basically done by opening the photo in Photoshop and painting in the colors manually. For example, in order to get a more realistic look, skin needs to have a number of colors other than the actual skin tone. The same thing goes for everything else that gets colored.
 

Mahonay

Banned
Obviously it makes money, but that's obviously not what I meant. Trying to find games for the different DLC maps and modes in BF4 is infuriating sometimes.
For Conquest Large and Small at least you can find full servers for any map set. I know it's not as easy when you break out to other game types.
 

Palculator

Unconfirmed Member
I do this from time to time. Here's one that I'm working on at the moment. It's currently a work in progress which is why some spots are still black and white.

Tml821g.jpg


It's basically done by opening the photo in Photoshop and painting in the colors manually. For example, in order to get a more realistic look, skin needs to have a number of colors other than the actual skin tone. The same thing goes for everything else that gets colored.
Nice work! I know for that photo in particular the colours are rather obvious, but do you know how much research goes into colourisations like these? For things like military badges I can imagine finding what colour to use to remain accurate somewhat of a hassle compared to commonly known things like uniform colours.

Which reminds me, the person who did Franz Ferdinand also did The Red Baron:
 
Hopefully they stop with the themed DLC and just make new maps. The themed bullshit divides the playerbase. There are servers for each individual DLC because they cant be put together. That has burned me twice because i bought the season pass. Not this time DICE. No season pass until im sure that they are making normal DLC and not a theme that requires different playlist.
 

Creaking

He touched the black heart of a mod
At the very least, maybe they'll do what they're doing now with Battlefield 4 and Hardline, which is offering each DLC free (to keep) to all players for a certain window of time. You might feel ripped off as a premium buyer, but consider that you got access to the maps in the prime of the game's life, and a move to make them free in the game's later years (nearly 3 years after launch in BF4's case) can revitalize the player base and let you play those maps again. Plus, premium tends to have a few other bonuses beyond just getting all of the expansions.
 
Packs, DLC, Pre-order content, Day 1 Edition, etc, etc...

Its all so confusing!!!!
not gonna buy this day one, is all that content usually available later?
 
Nice work! I know for that photo in particular the colours are rather obvious, but do you know how much research goes into colourisations like these? For things like military badges I can imagine finding what colour to use to remain accurate somewhat of a hassle compared to commonly known things like uniform colours.

Which reminds me, the person who did Franz Ferdinand also did The Red Baron:

Thanks! Yeah, Marina is really good! Check out her site if you haven't already. I should eventually get a portfolio online with this stuff.

As for research, I think it all depends on the person doing the coloring. If they're serious about it, they're going to put in work and do the best they can. I'd imagine someone like Marina to do as much research as possible to match colors on uniforms and clothing of the period. Luckily, with the internet, there's an infinite amount of information out there. There are websites out there with pictures of almost every kind of badge you can imagine.

Personally, I like to work on military photos. I'm somewhat of a collector, so I have quite a few badges and medals at home, mostly from WW2. A number of family members were in wars throughout history, and another one of my friends is both a veteran and crazy super collector. Seriously, you can barely walk around in the rooms where he has his collection. If I don't know off the top of my head, I can usually count on him for reference photos or advice.
 

Deadbeat

Banned
I heard from someone that one of the DLCs in development for Battlefield 1 has dinosaurs.
Thats total bullshit. We all know it was the germans in ww2 that experimented with dinosaur restoration technology. In WW1 they were trying to revive vampires to deal with the leprechaun brigades being unleashed by the UK.
 

Sibylus

Banned
Nothing new, I remember different map packs and vehicles, etc. (theaters of war) in BF1942.
Expansion Packs? There were 2 (Road to Rome and Secret Weapons of WWII). I liked them, even if the 2nd went hard on the alt-history angles a bit as arsenal goes.

bf1942_screen003.jpg


Gate content into a billion different little packages and I think people will be justifiably cross with DICE. Say no to homeopathic dilution of the community.
 

Palculator

Unconfirmed Member
As for research, I think it all depends on the person doing the coloring. If they're serious about it, they're going to put in work and do the best they can. I'd imagine someone like Marina to do as much research as possible to match colors on uniforms and clothing of the period. Luckily, with the internet, there's an infinite amount of information out there. There are websites out there with pictures of almost every kind of badge you can imagine.
Mind linking those websites?
Personally, I like to work on military photos. I'm somewhat of a collector, so I have quite a few badges and medals at home, mostly from WW2. A number of family members were in wars throughout history, and another one of my friends is both a veteran and crazy super collector. Seriously, you can barely walk around in the rooms where he has his collection. If I don't know off the top of my head, I can usually count on him for reference photos or advice.
That's neat. I like that stuff too, but I'm not really a collector of it. Even though I know my ancestors fought in World War 1, my grandad only has the Wehrmacht badges from his father. Those are the only ones still in our possession, I think, which is kind of unfortunate (or my great great great grandfather was just really bad and never earned any badges in World War 1, lol.)
 
I do this from time to time. Here's one that I'm working on at the moment. It's currently a work in progress which is why some spots are still black and white.

Tml821g.jpg


It's basically done by opening the photo in Photoshop and painting in the colors manually. For example, in order to get a more realistic look, skin needs to have a number of colors other than the actual skin tone. The same thing goes for everything else that gets colored.

That is very impressive nice work I have always wondered how they colored this kind of pictures, if you don't mind me asking I would like to know how much time does it take you to complete one picture?
 
I wonder how advanced melee will be. Regular, heavy, blocking, etc.? Seems like this game will have a bigger focus on melee and melee weapons
 

J-Rzez

Member
Battlefield was the only game I ever played where the premium (season pass) was absolutely worth it. Just so they don't pull a dick move on us like blizzard and all of a sudden skimp on the content.
 

Alienfan

Member
Very few games I would say this about, but I'm actually really happy about the Battlefield season pass staying - I didn't trust EA to give DICE enough resources to build high quality maps if they were free. Battlefields one of the only series of games I've never regretted buying all of the DLC FOR - they always feel like expansion packs. We can probably expect free DLC as well, like they did with Battlefield 4. It's a model that has clearly worked for them, unlike most publishers who have turned to a intrusive implementation of microtransactions, and one that the community have largely been accepting of (the DLC content is generally well populated, at least in my experience).
 

Kinyou

Member
I wonder how advanced melee will be. Regular, heavy, blocking, etc.? Seems like this game will have a bigger focus on melee and melee weapons
It will be interesting. Complex melee in first person games rarely ever feels right to me. And even when they get the mechanics down like in Chivalry it often tends to just look dumb from an outside perspective. (That's obviously more of a nitpicky problem)
 

Mahonay

Banned
Battlefield was the only game I ever played where the premium (season pass) was absolutely worth it. Just so they don't pull a dick move on us like blizzard and all of a sudden skimp on the content.
For BF3 and BF4 I've been happy with the season passes. They put out tons of great maps, and tend to be pretty clear and transparent with what DLC they plan to put out. For BF4 we did get a couple of extra free community maps sprinkled in as well.
Packs, DLC, Pre-order content, Day 1 Edition, etc, etc...

Its all so confusing!!!!
not gonna buy this day one, is all that content usually available later?
Yep! Except if you don't get the day-1/pre-order version of Battlefield you won't get the first DLC free. It's been the current model. Get the game at launch, you get the first DLC included. That won't matter if you get a season pass though, since all DLC content is included with that.
 
BF4 always felt really unbalanced on hardcore mode to me but I understand the appeal. And yeah it's weird how it's mostly DLC servers that have hardcore running.

i still remember back in the BC2 and BF3 days when they actually tried to balance weapons for both normal and hardcore modes simultaneously... that was awful.
 
So much for John being right....

John Harker clarified about a week or two before the announcement they backed off the alt history angle and it was only going to weapon-related, i.e. weapon prototypes or not exactly period accurate weapons, likely which allowed DICE to have more standard BF type weapons.

It's possible we could get an alternative history related DLC/expansion later on.
 

Nirolak

Mrgrgr
A few notes from Eurogamer: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016-05-10-battlefield-1-interview-dice

- They say they're playing around with the weapons a bit in that it's likely soldiers didn't actually physically run around with the machine guns they're using in Battlefield 1, but that they wanted to include them because they're a lot of fun. On the whole though, it's not meant to be alt history.
- It sounds like only tankers and pilots are dedicated classes, while things like horses are mounts you can use as an infantry soldier. This isn't 100% clear though.
- DICE refers to there being multiple heroines in the game, so presumably there are more characters in the campaign than the three in the trailer. I'm guessing six, with one for each rumored "Act/Episode".
 
Put me on the camp of yes to the premium season pass, in the past BF games the premium passes have delivered tons of content with great quality for the game sure they will split the user base to a certain point but they are 100% worth it in my opinion
 

Aters

Member
A few notes from Eurogamer: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016-05-10-battlefield-1-interview-dice

- They say they're playing around with the weapons a bit in that it's likely soldiers didn't actually physically run around with the machine guns they're using in Battlefield 1, but that they wanted to include them because they're a lot of fun. On the whole though, it's not meant to be alt history.
- It sounds like only tankers and pilots are dedicated classes, while things like horses are mounts you can use as an infantry soldier. This isn't 100% clear though.
- DICE refers to there being multiple heroines in the game, so presumably there are more characters in the campaign than the three in the trailer. I'm guessing six, with one for each rumored "Act/Episode".
All sounds great. I'm sure soldiers in real life don't run around with XM25, UCAV and motion sensor, so this won't be the first time DICE use a little bit imagination. I'm ready for some crazy prototype concept weapons and gadgets, just please don't make the equivalent of XM25 and UCAV.
 

El_Chino

Member
Yeah
John Harker clarified about a week or two before the announcement they backed off the alt history angle and it was only going to weapon-related, i.e. weapon prototypes or not exactly period accurate weapons, likely which allowed DICE to have more standard BF type weapons.

It's possible we could get an alternative history related DLC/expansion later on.

Nvm, I actually saw the posts but it didn't register with me,
 
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