I know this thread is 17 pages old and I've not made it through the first... but man, that's a solid reference I totally get. Nice.
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Polygon: Xbox Scorpio will be a ~6 TFLOP system (v PS4K's 4.14), unveil soon, Fall 17
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I feel your pain, man
. I went all digital this gen. A discless PS4 would make it almost a portable device.Hmmm, why would I buy a PS4 now if I know Neo is coming out "this year"? Given that the price difference between the two is probably no more than $100-$150 I would just forego purchase a PS4.
The price difference between XB1 and Scorpio will be substantial. 6TF in 2017? I'm guessing $599. A slim XB1 will be coveted item in and of itself. Especially at around a $249 price point.
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
6 TFlops!
Daaaamn MS you have my attention
Daaaamn MS you have my attention
Reagan's BR
Banned
Isn't the rumor that PS4.5/X1.5 are fall 2017?
mysteriousmage09
Member
Well Xbone is dead as shit if the specs are true....lol Gies.
BladeoftheImmortal
Member
I don't believe polygon at all when it comes to Xbox. They have a reputation
...Scatter...
Banned
huh? You're going to have to explain this.
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
Posts like this can't be real. No real human on the other side of a keyboard does stuff like that.
The PS4 Neo is rumored for this year.
It's being corroborated by Jason over at Kotaku and Brad Sams (Microsoft insider) said he had some more information he hadn't completely pinned down regarding the new console that he didn't want to share yet, which I'm guessing has to do with what Microsoft is aiming for with the power of the box.
Chronos24
Member
I gotta say, I was basically crucified in another thread about the whole power argument meaning more now than ever and the ps4 is a perfect example. Looks like more and more people are seeing my point here.
Do you predict a really dumb high price just so you can feign surprise when its way cheaper than that?
I had to read that several times...I think he is talking about XboxOne sales the moment Xbox2 is revealed, right?
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
Oh man I shouldn't have gotten excited it's Arthur Gies. I'm amazed he limited it to 6. Should have gone with 12 and the headline - "Devs abandon PS4 due to the overwhelming majesty and power of the next Xbox"
Elitist1945
Member
Now wouldn't that suck if it turned out the PS4K and Scorpio didn't exist?
A $599 console is not going to sell well. It would be a big mistake.
need more special sauce.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Well supposedly it was 5 to 6, so naturally the highest end will be clung to.
Art Vandilay
Member
We should at least expect revisions of some sort, likely resulting in a price drop for existing consoles.
Lmao...true true.
BladeoftheImmortal
Member
Oh, then my interest is raised. Got to wait for E3.
Couldn't be more wrong. The PS4 and XBOne themselves indicate that power isn't important to these companies. They are both really puny upgrades from last-generation.
They had the smallest generational power gap by far with by far the most time between generations. How does that indicate a focus on power?
Likewise, these iterative upgrades would be even more weak given we're talking 4+ years.
The age of powerful consoles has finished. The growth in hardware power is getting smaller and smaller as time goes by.
Elitist1945
Member
Of course. I'm fully expecting these rumors to be true, was just saying trading a console in based on a rumor is perhaps not the smoothest course.
Flawless.
thehillissilent
Member
No, he is not. Jason from Kotaku also backed up many of the claims in this thread. People will need to read through the thread.
Night Angel
Member
Two publications/people have corroborated the target range (which at this stage is subject to change and likely meaningless). We have clarification from one of those that it was a single source. What are the odds they both had the same source?
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
Thinking about doing it myself. I already played UC4 and Bloodborne and have a PC.
They're gonna be worth way less once Neo is announced.
Ok, power may have meant something this gen. But have you heard the news? There are no gens anymore in the future. Power will become irrelevant in the grand scheme of things especially in fanboy wars, because we could end up with 2 year cycles down the road and Sony and MS won't release their consoles head to head again. This would mean that a proud Xbox2 owner only has one year and a handful of games to brag about until the next more powerful Playstation is upon us. Oh, the irony...
Art Vandilay
Member
Yeah, I still wouldn't trade now for the prospect of some sort of trade in promotion post-reveal.
I was on the fence about upgrading to the Neo if it releases this fall but depending on when the respective releases happen, maybe I just wait for this new xbox. Very interested to hear something official about release dates and specs.
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
Yeah but your waiting till you know what the Neo presumably is correct? That makes you a rational person
Jason didn't "back it up", he said he heard it but didn't want to report it, not enough sources.
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
From who? Gamestop? Sony sure as hell wouldn't it themselves.
I doubt your ps4 will ever be worth more than it is now to anyone.
CrispyBoar
Banned
It wasn't power as the reason as to why Sony was winning with PS4.
KampferZeon
Neo Member
Dont spoil the fun.
Why couldn't xbox 2017 comes with Nvidia GPU if we are in the "anything is believable territory"
gflops is a universal definition for all gpus hardware from nvidia, amd or intel.
AMD is very poor converting power to actual performance for some unknown reason.
The liquid cooled R9 is at 7tflops yet its real life performance is only comparable to the 5.5K GTX980.
I used the 1070 what is physically needed to achieve 6T.
i wasn't talking about the theoretical performance and actual reallife performance differences between AMD and nvidia.
7DollarHagane
Banned
All of this is stupid. I'm sticking to upgrading my pc. Ms seems to want to port everything to pc anyway so what's the point of a $600 box that's so powerful.
Art Vandilay
Member
I'm hoping MS will prior to the release of this rumored console, assuming it's true. Perhaps it's wishful thinking.
Edit: I realize he had a PS4. I suppose he probably is better off trading in prior to E3 if he doesn't use it much.
thehillissilent
Member
True about the 6tf, but the other rumors he did back up which is what I was referring to.
IcyRhythms
Member
Power and the word of mouth is absolutely a key factor as to why Sony has sold a crazy amount of PS4's. No denying that.
This gets a 0% accuracy rating. There is no way in hell the PS4 would be doing so much better than the Xbox One had it not had the "it's more powerful" argument from day one.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
I am not arguing a source, I am just musing how 6 is the number paraded, when 5 is every bit as relevant. And judging by the story breaker, it is not too surprising a happy medium wasn't even chosen. Is all.
LukasTaves
Member
They don't need esram for backwards compatibility even if they weren't already moving towards a platform agnostic development platform before the xbone even launched.
Esram is just a faster memory pool than the main memory and the system has dedicated hardware for moving data around both memory pools without stalling the rendering.
Even if the OS wasn't virtualized in the new system it would be very easy for them to intercept the calls that directly manage the esram and act accordingly to the new archictecture.
If you have a gaming PC, there is no reason to be considering a new Xbox at this point. This isn't pitched at you or me.
I don't understand why you would do this.
I sold my PS4 last week for more than I paid for it, a no brainier for me before the value plummets. I can put it towards whichever sounds best, or rebuy a better PS4 bundle this fall if they're too far away/a bust.
I played what I wanted to for now on PS4 and I still have an insane backlog for what I've still got.
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
You already have a gaming PC? Then you would be crazy to go with Xbox.
Uhhh, did you forget that the Xbox One had, and indeed still has, the shackles of god awful policy (DRM, DRM, DRM) and hardware decisions (Kinect, $499) that MS made dragging it down? Marketing blunder after marketing blunder?
PS4 would be the same because most people didn't want an Xbox One when it launched. It was $100 more expensive and had one of the worst pre-launch hype periods of all time. Now it might be the same price/cheaper, but momentum doesn't work that way. You screw the pooch early, you're playing catchup the rest of the gen. Simple. Power is a realllllllllllly small factor in why the XBOne is failing.