The12thGripper
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It's not an added bonus, they're doing it to bump sales for Firefly Diary. I already have it, I don't want to buy it again. Offer me the option of just getting Yomawari for retail, I don't want the same game again.
Same.
It's not an added bonus, they're doing it to bump sales for Firefly Diary. I already have it, I don't want to buy it again. Offer me the option of just getting Yomawari for retail, I don't want the same game again.
Well, that doesn't make it any better. It's a kind of practice completely forbidden in my country, just to show that it isn't something easily acceptable by companies shoving a product down the customer's throat when they just want something else.
It's not an added bonus, they're doing it to bump sales for Firefly Diary. I already have it, I don't want to buy it again. Offer me the option of just getting Yomawari for retail, I don't want the same game again.
I still wouldn't be a big fan of an SKU that bundles 2 separate games just for kicks without offering them separately. Wouldn't be nearly as bad though.would it have been different if it was two new games in a single package for this price? this is an honest question.
would it have been different if it was two new games in a single package for this price? this is an honest question.
would it have been different if it was two new games in a single package for this price? this is an honest question.
yeah, I'm not a huge fan of this decision.
Especially as it seems to be justification for this title being 40$. Wasn't Firefly 20? I might be misremembering.
yeah, I'm not a huge fan of this decision.
Especially as it seems to be justification for this title being 40$. Wasn't Firefly 20? I might be misremembering.
I still wouldn't be a big fan of an SKU that bundles 2 separate games just for kicks without offering them separately. Wouldn't be nearly as bad though.
It's on one cart, right? The picture indicated a reversible cover and I doubt two carts would be in one normal Vita case, especially for $40.
Rose and the Old Castle would have been a better fit for a duo cart, but it'll still be a cool curiosity for me. I'm an odd one, though. I like having the combo cart of Rayman Origins/Legends too even though I already had both carts by themselves. For 99% of people, even Vita collectors, it's just redundant. I might finally order the JPN Yomawari too, just to keep everything neat.
Firefly was $20 and has since had a PSN sale multiple times now for sub 10, so they're basically valuing it at 20 again in this release since there was no way Yomawari would have been anything more than 20 as well. It would be one thing if Firefly didn't have a physical before and they were charging full now, even with the PSN sales, but that's not the case.
Yeah, this is dumb. I'll buy it because I love these little games, but the way they're selling it really does bug me.firefly was $20 physically.
Could have been standalone for $25, easily.
I want this LE because I never played htoL#NiQ.
But there's no guarantee that there'll be a European LE.
And the EU version doesn't come with a physical htoL#NiQ.
I've been eyeing Yomawari since the day it was announced, game looks incredibly like my kinda thing.
I downloaded it when it was on sale. =/>tfw I already have physical htoL#NiQ
i know firefly diary physical version skipped europe the first time, but i don't think it will this time.
Firefly was $20 and has since had a PSN sale multiple times now for sub 10, so they're basically valuing it at 20 again in this release since there was no way Yomawari would have been anything more than 20 as well. It would be one thing if Firefly didn't have a physical before and they were charging full now, even with the PSN sales, but that's not the case.
This is also a good point. I have not heard many good things about Firefly Diary, and would be a lot more willing to try it for a sale price, and am now being forced to get it for the full $20. And count me among the people who would be much more interested in this if both games were new. Hell, I might have gone for a double pack of Firefly and Rose if Rose ends up being good, since I'd be interested in seeing its predecessor first. This choice just feels odd.
...I'm realizing that I still do want to get Yomawari physically though. So I'm tempted despite what I've heard so far. I'm seeing a lot of people saying they bought Firefly Diary in this thread, but can anyone attest to it actually being good?
This is also a good point. I have not heard many good things about Firefly Diary, and would be a lot more willing to try it for a sale price, and am now being forced to get it for the full $20. And count me among the people who would be much more interested in this if both games were new. Hell, I might have gone for a double pack of Firefly and Rose if Rose ends up being good, since I'd be interested in seeing its predecessor first. This choice just feels odd.
...I'm realizing that I still do want to get Yomawari physically though. So I'm tempted despite what I've heard so far. I'm seeing a lot of people saying they bought Firefly Diary in this thread, but can anyone attest to it actually being good?
NISA's post on the European PS Blog removed "Retail Edition htoL#" from their copy pasted statement that it came with Yomawai on the US PS Blog and simply put "htoL#", on the EU blog, implying a digital copy.
i think it just means they're on the same game card. if they were going to go the route of a digital version, the us version would be digital too.
This is also a good point. I have not heard many good things about Firefly Diary, and would be a lot more willing to try it for a sale price, and am now being forced to get it for the full $20. And count me among the people who would be much more interested in this if both games were new. Hell, I might have gone for a double pack of Firefly and Rose if Rose ends up being good, since I'd be interested in seeing its predecessor first. This choice just feels odd.
...I'm realizing that I still do want to get Yomawari physically though. So I'm tempted despite what I've heard so far. I'm seeing a lot of people saying they bought Firefly Diary in this thread, but can anyone attest to it actually being good?
ah but not really. carts aren't just expensive on nintendo platforms. doing it for a niche game makes it difficult. and then you'd have to ask if people would buy it at $29.99 instead? maybe not - especially if precedent was set on your last indie-looking game being $19.99.
Firefly was $20 and $25 is the going rate for LimitedRunGames.
That seemed like the right number to make it worth their while and still please the people in here.
that's the other part of this puzzle - firefly diary had all that going for it (offered exclusively on the nisa store) and yomawari does not.
But that's because NISA decided to sell the game through other retailers as well, it was NISA's decision to do that.
inb4 Rose also gets bundled with htoL#NiQ
I don't want Rose and Yomawari together either.
Rose is essentially Firefly 2. Those would be better on a cart together if there was going to be a duo cart at all... but even then, separate releases would be good for most people who don't want to pay $10-20 more for something they already have or don't want.
I said $25 because I think $30 makes people get uppity when something similar was $20 (which is probably cheaper than it should have been, since it's resulted in this loss recouping+cost justifying scenario) or cheaper on PSN. $30 for something clean and kept would have been fine for me, but to others that might have been too much.
Thanks, wishlisted.Oh, the steam page is already live
http://store.steampowered.com/app/477870/
You can even pre-order it already
Releasing on the same day as the Vita version
it's more than the price point - it's about the platform charge and how much a retailer and a distributor might take off each thing. if the game was exclusive to the online store, without a limited edition (or maybe a really weak bonus like a box and a small book), then maybe $24.99 would have been okay. there still would have been about $8.000 in shipping and at that point it becomes a $33-35 game.
this would be a lot easier if the minimum order quantities for ps vita games were lower. if they were lower, a game probably could do what i stated in the above, and done well to not have extras lying around.
it's more than the price point - it's about the platform charge and how much a retailer and a distributor might take off each thing. if the game was exclusive to the online store, without a limited edition (or maybe a really weak bonus like a box and a small book), then maybe $24.99 would have been okay. there still would have been about $8.000 in shipping and at that point it becomes a $33-35 game.
this would be a lot easier if the minimum order quantities for ps vita games were lower. if they were lower, a game probably could do what i stated in the above, and done well to not have extras lying around.
How low do you think the minimum cart order quantity is for Vita?
The lowest officially known print run is 1,500 for a physical Vita cart.
So then you're arguing that it should be $20 + $8 like Firefly was.
I think $40 for the LE package (excluding the NISA exclusive tumbler, which I can't justify uping the cost nearly $25) is a very reasonable price for what you get. Having not played Firefly I think it's pretty cool that they are essentially giving fans a second chance to get a physical copy of the game. (Third chance? I vaguely remember them having Firefly physical copies for sale again earlier in the year)
To be fair, most of the people complaining about the price are those who already bought FD when they sold it the first time around and don't feel like being charged for it again if they want a physical release of Yomawari. For people who didn't buy it in the first place however, it's not a terrible price if you're interested in both games and their extras.
The majority of the people buying Yomawari are the people that bought Firefly Diary. There's only one audience for these games, the overlap is too big to ignore.
i don't know how limited run games does it, but that is not the minimum order requirement in north america.
The majority of the people buying Yomawari are the people that bought Firefly Diary. There's only one audience for these games, the overlap is too big to ignore.