Guenine and honest question: In which country do you live ?
The US New York to be specific, and I know what your argument will be. Don't even waste it with me.
Guenine and honest question: In which country do you live ?
What's going to be very interesting is what is said at E3. Sony has some to out and say stuff for the PS4K obviously but MS doesn't necessarily. MS is going first so it's going to be interesting what they say and what Sony says to basically "counter" it. Sony is in a good position for coming second but MS has the advantage of coming out later with Scorpio. That's why I don't think so much will be said for MS because E3 MS isn't in a great position (console comes out second and anything they say can be countered).
Exciting times ahead.
I don't believe this is real
Sure thing. Basically, Microsoft believe W10 is going to be an appealing ecosystem with the wrong integration. They're 10 years too late. Their plan is to make Windows 10 the core of everything, revolving around UWP and W10 Store. The right direction would've been opening their devices more, not less. XB1 and Xbox devices would've been far more appealing devices if they were basically Home PCs, able to run any x86 programs. Instead, the point is to bring Xbox experience, aka a closed experience to PC and unify everything, which results in a late, barebone and unappealing experience.
So I don't really see what's exciting for something more powerful but still heading in the wrong direction. Basically reminds me of Surface 1 and 2, the RT models. There's a reason why Surface 3 was a far more popular product. Surface 1 and 2 are basically closed and unappealing Windows experiences while 3 basically made the cheaper model more open with a real Windows experience.
I'm sorry I don't agree with that, xbox one has done things right. If they unify and clean things up like the windows store, it'll be the better of the 3 ecosystems. However saying that I don't know the direction of the other companies so it would be difficult to claim this. Just doing things now with the xbox I can see so much potential.
Using the time warner app allowed me to get rid of cable boxes in my house and just have an xbox one instead of renting a device every month from time warner. That's a huge savings for me.
I rented a movie the other day watched the first half on my xbox, switched to a different room and finished watching on my pc. The little things like that make life easier.
Yeah I know they lack in the exclusive and more developed first party, but I'm ok with that.
I use each system to their strengths, but a more powerful complete xbox is far more useful to me the other consoles. Most of the first party exclusive stuff this gen has really done it for me. That goes for all 3 companies, the third party stuff has been more enticing.
We won't probably see Neo at E3 and the later release date of Scorpio won't definitely help Microsoft against Sony.
A premium Xbox sku will be released sooner or later, that's for sure.
The US New York to be specific, and I know what your argument will be. Don't even waste it with me.
So when do you presume we see the Neo?
The US New York to be specific, and I know what your argument will be. Don't even waste it with me.
What exclusive game has greatly driven the sales of current gen consoles this gen so far? The top selling true exclusives have been on the Wii U but that system has sold terribly.
Well, you see, a lot of the TV things only apply to the US, that's the problem.
They are definitely necessary for Hype though. Look at UC4 and Horizon. You need IP that pushes your system and offers something different.
Exactly, MS have a nice strategy for good ol USA and watercoolers.
Nobody else in the rest of the world knows what you are even talking about, and that is MS problem as appealing to USA only will still fail as they wont be able to get a big enough chunk of the market to dominate.
HBM2 is like eight times faster than ESRAM. 196 GB/s peak to 2.048 GB/s peak. A single stack of RAM is at 256 GB/s still faster than ESRAM. Emulation is no problem. And just because it has more TFlops doesn't mean it is more expensive. The APU in a console is 30 % of its production cost.
Iwannaseethereceipts.gifI've worked with ceo's in different industries, you guys are asking for things to be done that don't make sense.
This is mainly a US only thing, though. I'm not sure about all of EU, but cable TV nowadays is sold to you via Phone-, Internet-, Multimedia- companies and they have their own boxes and they're offering complete packages with mobile, phone, inet and TV. This is one of the reasons why XboxOne's usp doesn't work over here. The Xbox + Windows ecosystem won't give us anything we don't already have or we have waited for.
And I don't see MS ever trying to get the FIFA/UEFA/National soccer league broadcasting licences either for example. We're talking several billion $s here.
I yet fail to see the major selling-point of the windows ecosytem. Please explain anyone.
I can watch TV shows, movies on all of my devices already. Same thing with music.
Apps for everyday usage like Nav-systems, little tools, funny gadgets...I have those on my smart-phone. What am I missing? After installing W10 this March and visiting the W10 store out of curiosity, there's nothing that strikes my eye. Even the XboxOne exclusives are rather hidden and all I see is shovelware games plus all the things I already have.
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Here is something else I don't get, I thought everyone hated the xbox because you know media and tv are all they are about. Why is not having these features such an issue. I loved the xbox because it brought everything together from the beginning.
If my playstation doesn't have a title that I'm interested in release it goes unused for months. This is an issue for me. As someone in finance, not using an item for a few months straight is a big issue for me. My money is being wasted if can't get use out of my device.
If I'm MS, I focus on those countries that show promise. I don't sink my money into countries that don't. This isn't a rant about how they should ignore the rest of the world, this more about appealing to certain markets and taking majority control, then expanding.
When you tie resources up in investments that don't produce nothing good comes of it. I've seen it to many times.
sorry can't reveal myself any further. Already have weird people asking me for money and following me on twitch. Should have done things anonymously but that was my mistake. People are well aware that money doesn't mean anything to me. Don't want to speak on this matter anymore.
What exclusive game has greatly driven the sales of current gen consoles this gen so far? The top selling true exclusives have been on the Wii U but that system has sold terribly.
What's going to be very interesting is what is said at E3. Sony has some to out and say stuff for the PS4K obviously but MS doesn't necessarily. MS is going first so it's going to be interesting what they say and what Sony says to basically "counter" it. Sony is in a good position for coming second but MS has the advantage of coming out later with Scorpio. That's why I don't think so much will be said for MS because E3 MS isn't in a great position (console comes out second and anything they say can be countered).
Exciting times ahead.
Here is something else I don't get, I thought everyone hated the xbox because you know media and tv are all they are about. Why is not having these features such an issue. I loved the xbox because it brought everything together from the beginning.
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It's not worth making a console that only sells decently in a handful of markets.
It's not worth making a console that only sells decently in a handful of markets.
I think they will drop Xbox One and just call it Xbox . Since it will be backward and forward compatible, why number it?
Now imagine what the Wii U's sales would be without any of those exclusives.
If anything, Nintendo's franchises are what's keeping them in the hardware game (at least when it comes to their consoles).
I think they will drop Xbox One and just call it Xbox . Since it will be backward and forward compatible, why number it?
Batman?
If scorpio is a new gen i hope they allow us to preload launch games on our xbox one and just plug in the external when we all get home with the system
If scorpio is a new gen i hope they allow us to preload launch games on our xbox one and just plug in the external when we all get home with the system
If scorpio is a new gen i hope they allow us to preload launch games on our xbox one and just plug in the external when we all get home with the system
I really don't see a scenario where MS isn't kind of hosed because of X1. If they release in 2017 with Scorpio what exclusive game is going to drive that adoption especially with them embracing PC now as well. They don't have a catalog of IP that is that strong anymore and will be further diminished by it being available on PC. If they are hoping Occulus Support will save them they will be over a year late to the party. X1 sales will continue to diminish and with the announcement of Scorpio will fall off a cliff. Because the online communities are carrying over from this Gen people are staying where their friends are. Yeah I think MS is really in a bad spot
Just a prediction Scorpio Nov 2017 launches with Elder Scrolls 6. (please come true).
So you think people are going to rush out and build gaming PCs to play Madden, FIFA, and COD?
They just don't rush out and buy Scorpio.
They just don't rush out and buy Scorpio.
Not if the investment could be better spent elsewhere. Most businesses think in terms of NPV and ROI, and they're always ranking investments against others to determine the best area to spend.You can make a profit though. Sustainable profits mean more than anything in the business world.
Those are the best selling titles. It's like every generation. First early adopters and enthusiasts buy up the volume for the first 3-4 months. Then gen pop stars to get word of mouth and commercials do their thing. If the press is good and the word of mouth is good then you start pulling more and more in. Will your console resonate with pop culture? Athletes. Celebrities. Conan O'Brien. Twitch. YouTube. Will the kids be talking about it at recess? That's how you sell. First thing first though. YOU HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF YOUR CORE GAMER. Build a beast and support it well.
Sure thing. Basically, Microsoft believe W10 is going to be an appealing ecosystem with the wrong integration. They're 10 years too late. Their plan is to make Windows 10 the core of everything, revolving around UWP and W10 Store. The right direction would've been opening their devices more, not less. XB1 and Xbox devices would've been far more appealing devices if they were basically Home PCs, able to run any x86 programs. Instead, the point is to bring Xbox experience, aka a closed experience to PC and unify everything, which results in a late, barebone and unappealing experience.
So I don't really see what's exciting for something more powerful but still heading in the wrong direction. Basically reminds me of Surface 1 and 2, the RT models. There's a reason why Surface 3 was a far more popular product. Surface 1 and 2 are basically closed and unappealing Windows experiences while 3 basically made the cheaper model more open with a real Windows experience.
How many Surface 3 tablets were sold/shipped vs RT models?
Not if the investment could be better spent elsewhere. Most businesses think in terms of NPV and ROI, and they're always ranking investments against others to determine the best area to spend.
While they may scrape together a profit on the XBox brand in a handful of markets, I'd imagine that path won't compete with other opportunities MS has in the long run.
lol i dont think they will ever give out numbers but RT took 1 Billion $ write off. So ya it was a bif fail. But Surface Pro 1-2 were successful, no idea what the poster is trying to say
I think they will drop Xbox One and just call it Xbox . Since it will be backward and forward compatible, why number it?
Ur Xbox one will be able to play those games still.
It's not a new gen though. So this question is DoA.
i didnt know they were doing forwards compatabilty, thought it was just backwards. Good to know!I think after next year we can stop thinking about console generations.
I think they may need to number it or otherwise name it in a way that clearly differentiates it if they plan on new games still working on the old X1 for a while. That way those games can be labeled as such, and then if eventually games only work on the new system, they can be labeled properly also.