NOLA_Gaffer
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The developers of a game showing off their product running in realtime seems like a much easier sell to the average customer than some marketing pitchman talking over canned footage.
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Nintendo Details 2-Day Treehouse at E3
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The developers of a game showing off their product running in realtime seems like a much easier sell to the average customer than some marketing pitchman talking over canned footage.
Neospartan
Neo Member
Next Week: Guys, we're actually going to have an E3 conference this year.
On E3: And you guys thought we weren't going to show the NX this year.
September: The NX is releasing on November.
January: So the NX is NOT a thing that exists.
On E3: And you guys thought we weren't going to show the NX this year.
September: The NX is releasing on November.
January: So the NX is NOT a thing that exists.
Because Pokémon has a ridiculously huge fanbase and a lot of people will watch the Sun/Moon stream. They'll possibly stick around for Zelda too.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
I mean, I get that.
But this is the first new Zelda we're seeing in years. Everybody knows the Pokemon formula. Nobody knows what to expect with this new Zelda. It seems like it should be leading the show.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
Im mad
Dark Cloud
Member
Like some others have said Pokemon is way bigger than Zelda and it will pull a big audience in from the beginning.
Nazgul_Hunter
Member
LMAO Nintendo.... I literally sold my Wii U after the Zelda debacle because I was just gonna play Zelda on NX and their lack of announcements meant there was nothing really to justify holding on to it until the NX came out.
Would be better if they showed some unnanounced games, y'know? : /
Pokémon will sell more and has a bigger audience
themagicalkitsune
Member
From the original thread:
While they've added Pokemon to Day 1, it feels good being right
I was adamant that this was how it was going down from that announcement on.
Pretty much, can't believe that people thinking Zelda would be literally the only thing at E3 were for real.
Some people act like consoles are these things they're holding onto that will slip away lol
Well, Pokémon is a bigger deal, but I would find it weird if they didn't start off with something Zelda. I mean, the showfloor will be open, the game featured everywhere. There might be a big banner with the final name, a bunch of footage and trailers, perhaps some statue of a new character. It would feel strange to sit there and watch Pokémon inside the Zelda booth without them spilling some basic beans about the game.
People seem to have this idea that Directs and Treehouse Live streams are only available with a super secret password that only Nintendo fans know. They are available to anyone, and can be, and often will be, reported on by news networks in the same way videos for other publishers that are released to the general public will.
EDIT: And yes, I agree. I think having the game demoed live, often by their developers is a good selling strategy as long as the game is good enough to be shown.
Show floor doesn't open until 12:00 PDT, giving three hours between start of Treehouse and public access
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
That game will sell itself though.
Not even sure why they are streaming it let alone first.
How long am I going to have to wait for the main event???
I think your frustrations with 7th Dragon are being aimed at the wrong party.
Really? Well, my previous post is then moot. Good to know!
On what metric? One game has Nintendo's best internal developers working on it. One game has the largest AAA development budget ever dispensed by the company. One game is essentially a media headliner. One game is a pure Nintendo IP (not co-owned with various partners). None of these is Pokemon.
Although Pokemon is an overall giant revenue stream, it's a shared IP, and also a cyclical franchise that isn't meant for dazzle. .
Sun/Moon will sell itself, and the people it will sell itself too will come to the stream. More views, more eyes on the stream and Zelda, etc. Not really that hard to see what they're doing.
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
Source???
Pokemon will sell about 2-3 times more is probably the metric he's going by. Where the hell did you get that about the budget?
SinCityAssassin
Member
It's always agonizing that Easy Allies can't cover these in the week's podcast because for some goddamn reason these news reveals always happen after Wednesday.
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
Or they realize that if Zelda was first, everyone would be talking about that and rewatching the footage afterwards and no one would stay for a game that everyone knows what it will look and play like.
AppleSautts
Member
They're starting with Sun/Moon now??
Ugh, I only have about an hour to watch Treehouse Live before I have to go to work but I expected I'd get to see Zelda before I had to leave. Now I'm probably gonna miss at least a majority of the Zelda segment
Ugh, I only have about an hour to watch Treehouse Live before I have to go to work but I expected I'd get to see Zelda before I had to leave. Now I'm probably gonna miss at least a majority of the Zelda segment
Paper Mario will probably sell much better than some of those games, though.
But, I do wonder if despite the word "including" implying more will be shown, if we will see major unlisted games like Paper Mario and Metroid. I guess I want to keep my expectations low so I'm not disappointed if we don't see more Paper Mario there. But, I think regardless of Treehouse showings, we'll get a Direct before or after E3 time (unassociated with E3) announcing Mother 3 and showing off Paper Mario. And probably Rhythm Heaven, Picross 3D2 and Box Boy 2.
They're starting with Sun/Moon now??
Ugh, I only have about an hour to watch Treehouse Live before I have to go to work but I expected I'd get to see Zelda before I had to leave. Now I'm probably gonna miss at least a majority of the Zelda segment
To me it's kinda unclear if they're starting with Sun/Moon or not.
Pancakes R Us
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Metroid Federation Force is most definitely, truly, without a shadow of a doubt 100% a Metroid game and it belongs in the Metroid universe.
SilverLunar
Member
Ill tell you what Pokemon is, it is a cash cow, with x4 times the fanbase of Zelda. Making it top priority is the smart move.
Edit: what do you know about the budget of Zelda anyway??
Akhe
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Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
Nintendo are lucky I held on too this soap! Oops it slipped out! Now I sold it and will never see it again! Haha!
SpacePirate Ridley
Member
How the company is right now is very similar to how Disney behaved after Disney's death.
Basically two great men were stearing by themeselves their company and without them those companies dont know how to fuck behave until its totally settled and they learn in their next years of how each department needs to behave.
Another big point of how much is Iwata still missed
Basically two great men were stearing by themeselves their company and without them those companies dont know how to fuck behave until its totally settled and they learn in their next years of how each department needs to behave.
Another big point of how much is Iwata still missed
Seems quite clear to me
"and first live gameplay of Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon that kicks off the program!"
"Tune in starting at 9 a.m. PT to see Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon in action, followed by the worlds first in-depth look at the new Legend of Zelda game. "
bizzarewars
Banned
I feel a bit better about Nintendo's E3 now. Excited for more Sun and Moon footy.
Fredrik
Member
And before that they obviously didn't have the Zelda-only plans. I think Sony and Microsoft destroyed Nintendo's hardware plans all together with the upgrades. I expect a delay to fall 2017, at the earliest.
Thanks Joe. I missed the second part.
I thought the full quote for the first part was a bit more ambiguously worded, but I may have just been reading it into it too much. So I guess Reggie will intro Zelda after the Pokémon stuff. What a messy messaging. It seems they did change their minds about only showing Zelda.
BinaryPork2737
Unconfirmed Member
I'm really glad that 7th Dragon III, Rhythm Heaven, and the Dragon Quest games are being shown off. Looking forward to the Pokemon gameplay, too.
Dr. Black Jack
Member
About goddamned time they realized that showing off the new Pokemon game during the series' 20th anniversary at the biggest trade event of the year is a good idea.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
Less time for Zelda I bet... :/
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
Game looks good. Sad thing is it'll be out the following week, not that the game looks bad.
yes? Colorsplash looks like it might be a better sticker star. Sticker star was deeply flawed but a few tweaks could have made it good.
Dr. Buni
Member
No it really doesn't. lol
JinjoUnchained
Member
Ahh, that's better. I'll tune into Day 2 randomly and skip Day 1 since I'm on my Zelda media blackout. I'd still like to see Paper Mario though, I liked Sticker Star for what it was, flaws and all.
limited edition already pre-ordered, no fucking regrets
Goldenmoney
Member
I'm used to there being hype train threads every year in anticipation for nintendo's e3, but they pretty much killed that this year. Not impressed with this new ceo so far.
Calm Mind
Member
Seeing as no one has played it and from what we've seen in the last Direct, it does look good.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
No problem if they show it or not Im just asking..and the fact thats the only other Wii U game. Personally I have no opinion on ss or color splash.
Yes it really does. lol. You cant get mad at everyone who likes certain games just because of a couple character designs. Leave people alone sometime please.
Looks like a fun persona spin-off. Sorry it doesn't appeal to you. (unless you're talking about actual aesthetics and character designs, which I can see. Game still looks fun to play, though.)
It's been out in japan for a while. Decent impressions but low sales numbers.
Oh, is reila in the 'nintendo censored the game therefore it's bad' camp, or something else? I'm sorry, I'm not familar with the poster's tastes.
KirbYuuYuu
Member
I don't know why having a front runner lead into the main event is such foreign concept to people.