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Hitman (2016) PC performance thread
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holygeesus
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Are you using DX11?
IlGialloMondadori
Member
Is there any visual difference between DX12? I have a 980ti, and while I still get >70 fps avg from the benchmark in dx12, I'm just curious why I would want to run DX12 over 11?
NeoRaider
Member
No visual difference. It looks the same from YT comparisons that i watched.
I only purchased and started playing the game yesterday, spent about an hour trying to get the performance in crowded areas to a solid 1080p60, but couldn't do that without lowering multiple settings. Surprised max settings are too much for a 5820k@4.4 | 980Ti@1.4 | 16GB DDR4. Doesn't sound good if the latest patch makes things worse, the game doesn't even look all that hot.
Looking at my CPU/GPU usage, CPU has even usage across most cores, and GPU usage maxes out whenever there are more than 4-5 characters on the screen at once. Have only been able to really play in DX11 mode, DX12 gets stuck in 24hz whenever VSync is turned on. Forced VSync through the NVCP doesn't work at al in DX12 either.
Very disappointed, thought any kinks would have been worked out by now.
Looking at my CPU/GPU usage, CPU has even usage across most cores, and GPU usage maxes out whenever there are more than 4-5 characters on the screen at once. Have only been able to really play in DX11 mode, DX12 gets stuck in 24hz whenever VSync is turned on. Forced VSync through the NVCP doesn't work at al in DX12 either.
Very disappointed, thought any kinks would have been worked out by now.
Revolutionary
Member
I got around the Hz issue by creating a custom resolution of 1920x1079. I wish I were joking.
Edit: at above, bump down LoD from Ultra and you'll see some a more stable 60. Looks the same as well IMO
Edit: at above, bump down LoD from Ultra and you'll see some a more stable 60. Looks the same as well IMO
Turin Turambar
Member
Lol, since the last patch now my Dx12 is totally borked. As in, the game won't launch. At least it works fine in dx11 but the framerate falls too much in the scenes with the highest amount of detail and distance vision (like from the ruins looking at the villa).
edit: using -SKIP_LAUNCHER as parameter it worked. Uh.
edit: using -SKIP_LAUNCHER as parameter it worked. Uh.
holygeesus
Banned
Very odd. My 980ti isn't hitting above 90% using the latest patch. I realise I am saying this every post but do not use DX12. performance sucks.
Max out all settings, barring the slider ones, use fullscreen mode not exclusive fullscreen, and with things set the latest patch has smoothed things out for me. Before the patch my GPU was going wild, topping out at 79c, but with the patch from a couple of days ago, it runs 10c cooler.
My system has less CPU cores than yours, so unless the CPU is causing issues, I don't know what to say - very happy with performance now - hope they don't break it again!
6700k (stock) 980ti (OC) 16GB DDR4
dr_rus
Member
Hitman (2016) Episode 2: DX12 mit bis zu 60 Prozent Leistungsplus - und Problemen
These guys are saying that DX12 version has worse texture streaming quality because of a more aggressive memory savings happening in DX12 renderer. Some new benchmarks with the latest drivers there as well.
These guys are saying that DX12 version has worse texture streaming quality because of a more aggressive memory savings happening in DX12 renderer. Some new benchmarks with the latest drivers there as well.
I will have a chance to try the latest patch out tonight, I played the day before it released, hopefully it fixes my performance issues. Haven't been able to play DX12, but will definitely stay away after hearing of worse texture streaming being a possibility.
Turin Turambar
Member
I had the texture problem in dx12 in the previous update (not now). Maybe they tried that version.
It seemed more a bug than any other thing.
dr_rus
Member
Hitman (2016) DirectX 12 Benchmark Review Updated
The new patch/Ep2 fucked up NV's DX12 performance even further. It's like they try to prove that they can make Titan X run on a R7 370 level or something.
The new patch/Ep2 fucked up NV's DX12 performance even further. It's like they try to prove that they can make Titan X run on a R7 370 level or something.
NeoRaider
Member
I am not happy with the performance and i am not talking about 2 big levels. I am talking about that intro on the boat. It goes below 30 on 1080p on Ultra settings. Fullscreen, can't test Exclusive Fullscreen. On 1440p it's unplayable. it goes to 20.
It works ok, around 35-45 but when i enter that boat full of NPCs performance is really not good. I wonder would DX12 do anything for me since i am on W7 and can't test it.
R9 280x
i5-4460
8GB
It works ok, around 35-45 but when i enter that boat full of NPCs performance is really not good. I wonder would DX12 do anything for me since i am on W7 and can't test it.
R9 280x
i5-4460
8GB
it's ok in DX11 mode, DX12 the game just doesn't launch so can't really say
Yeah it's clear they have not optimized for Nvidia hardware much but this is a AMD sponsored game so not unexpected.
SeeNoWeevil
Member
Was close to refunding this initially. I'm using a 980ti with the latest drivers. DX12 mode doesn't work, enabling v-sync with Exclusive Fullscreen causes 30Hz output and there seems to be some framedrops here and there (seemingly to do with asset streaming or just problem spots).
Switched to DX11 and 'Fullscreen' (borderless window with triple buffered v-sync, right?), turned off RTSS (causes framepacing issues) and switched shadow resolution down to medium.
It runs well now but I can't say I'm impressed on how much this is taxing my gpu given the visuals on display. Looks pretty dated to me.
Switched to DX11 and 'Fullscreen' (borderless window with triple buffered v-sync, right?), turned off RTSS (causes framepacing issues) and switched shadow resolution down to medium.
It runs well now but I can't say I'm impressed on how much this is taxing my gpu given the visuals on display. Looks pretty dated to me.
SeeNoWeevil
Member
Just got an update, DX12 now works, at 30HZ 
They fixed DX11 running at 30Hz in Exclusive Fullscreen, I guess that's something.
They fixed DX11 running at 30Hz in Exclusive Fullscreen, I guess that's something.
Just got an update, DX12 now works, at 30HZ
They fixed DX11 running at 30Hz in Exclusive Fullscreen, I guess that's something.
Is the framerate better? I have a 980ti and my fps drops to 40-50 at times.
Just got an update, DX12 now works, at 30HZ
They fixed DX11 running at 30Hz in Exclusive Fullscreen, I guess that's something.
Exclusive Fullscreen is still broken for me on DX11. If I run either DX12 or DX11 with Exclusive Fullscreen, it runs 30 fps and I get no sound.
This is on a 980.
NeoRaider
Member
Just got an update, DX12 now works, at 30HZ
They fixed DX11 running at 30Hz in Exclusive Fullscreen, I guess that's something.
Not fixed, it's still broken for me.
SeeNoWeevil
Member
Somehow it worked once for me, possibly the benchmark. But no, you're right, it still doesn't work.
Shadow resolution from high to medium brings decent gains for little perceptible change. Some areas (in Sapienza especially) are just poorly optimised though.
Yes, it's still broken for me in both DX11 and DX12. I'm going to try and forget about this game for a few months, and hopefully it'll be fixed by the time I get back to it.
I don't really know. IO is so slow on fixing stuff, I mean they fixed the subdue bug in Ep 3 while it should be patched with an hotfix the day after. It seems they really don't care.
dr_rus
Member
The benchmark sequence ending part is changed in v1.2.0. The results are higher but you can't compare versions via the built-in tool as it's not apples to apples. I wonder what's the reason for this change? To create an impression of better performance by cheating with benchmark sequence?
Revolutionary
Member
Yep.
At least I can alt+tab a few times to fix it this time (like some were able to in the previous patch). Baby steps, I guess.
But still very disappointing.
i5 2570k and GTX 660 Ti - game performance is really bad. Frame rate is all over the place, crunching down to sub-30 I think when I turn a corner into a room with a crowd. Lots of tearing since I can't afford to VSync. Very sad but pushing through it. First game I've gotten that isn't really playable on my rig at any settings.
Oh, I guess I should mention I'm trying to run at 2560x1080, so I could probably rescue myself by dropping that down to 1080p or something.
Oh, I guess I should mention I'm trying to run at 2560x1080, so I could probably rescue myself by dropping that down to 1080p or something.
That's a strange change.
Supersampling. It's running at 4K.
petethepanda
Member
i5 3570k / 970. I swear every time I launch the benchmark after a major patch my FPS in that first shot drops by another 5 lol. I truly did not expect things to get worse over time.
Edit: DX11 and Medium settings across the board can't even hold 60. It at least hovers around 50, but even then, it's a stuttery, awful feeling 50. I've wound up playing exclusively on a controller so far because it just feels so janky and imprecise with a mouse.
Edit: DX11 and Medium settings across the board can't even hold 60. It at least hovers around 50, but even then, it's a stuttery, awful feeling 50. I've wound up playing exclusively on a controller so far because it just feels so janky and imprecise with a mouse.
What card?
I definitely do not get 60 in Marrakesh on dual 980 SLI at 1080p even with AA off. It's definitely the worst running level for me. The school and consolate are generally fine, but anytime moving around the main marketplace, all those NPCs just tank the framerate. It's still above 30, and probably 40-50 in DX11. Guessing I get similar performance to the video. Also even if I turn the settings down it doesn't seem to help much when it comes to giant crowds and I have a i9 4500k or something that I just built last year for the cpu. The crowds just need optimizing if we want the game to run better in DX11.
I haven't even tried DX12 because SLI doesn't work in DX12 so I'd lose one of the cards.
xVodevil
Member
Yup, seem like DX12 is now the total opposite to Sapienza where it was utter shit.
They supposedly improved DX12 perf in the latest patch, have you tried Sapienza again?
Anecdotally the latest patch feels a lot better than the one before it for whatever reason. I didn't bench any like for like scenarios so no actual numbers, but maybe they are finally on the right track.
Anecdotally the latest patch feels a lot better than the one before it for whatever reason. I didn't bench any like for like scenarios so no actual numbers, but maybe they are finally on the right track.
Roni
Gold Member
I have an i7 4790 with two 970's, but they're not in SLI because they are from different, incompatible manufacturers. One is dedicated to PhysX and the other is used for actual rendering. I also got 16Gb of RAM and am using Windows 10.
My graphic settings for the game are:
1080p resolution
Windowed Mode (Because Fullscreen was crashing and it screws up my refresh rate)
Vsync is OFF, but Interval is set to 1 nonetheless.
Level of Detail is set to Medium
Anti-aliasing is SMAA
Texture Quality is on High
Texture Filter is set to 16x
SSAO is On
Shadow Maps are on Ultra
Shadow Resolution is on Medium.
Outside of your CPU being clocked a little higher than mine we have the same setup. Has performance improved at all for you? Really love Hitman but reading your performance issues is disheartening to say the least.
holygeesus
Banned
I still think the crowd hitching is CPU related, as I get stuttering even when dropping all graphics settings down. I do have a 6700k though even so. I might have to try and see if DX12 improves matters.
Just wondering. What's your lowest fps with high/ultra settings at 1080p in marrakech using a 6700k? Also which GPU do you have?