Stumpokapow
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Even if Hillary tied the all-time best popular vote margin, which she won't, I suspect the popular vote today is more efficiently allocated to electoral votes than it once was so she wouldn't win as many states/EVs.
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Is Hillary up for the biggest Presidential landslide victory in history?
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Cesare Borgia
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He'll be destroyed but the country is too partisan for a 1984 type blowout. He'll win most traditional republican states and get at least 45% of the popular vote.
And_Gignac
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Not even close.
Only if Bernie is the VP.
Only if Bernie is the VP.
Wait, why would it be more efficiently allocated today? The number of small states has only gone up over time and it's also halfway through a census cycle.
boiled goose
good with gravy
Not even close. Hillary has very little cross party appeal and independents in general are not fans.
I'm not even sure if she will do better than Obama v McCain.
It is possible, but I'm not sure.
Still no.
I'm not even sure if she will do better than Obama v McCain.
It is possible, but I'm not sure.
Not even close.
Only if Bernie is the VP.
Still no.
Knuckle Sandwich
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Not even close.
Only if Bernie is the VP.
She would probably lose to Trump then.
NullPointer
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This argument ignores the fact that Trump is far, far more disliked than Hillary and she will probably get a good amount of votes from the "anyone but Trump" camp.
People don't like Hillary but they DESPISE Trump, and a lot of people prescribe to the "lesser evil" theory when it comes to politics.
Knuckle Sandwich
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It's pretty impressive when you think about it. It took Hillary 30 years to be so hated and Trump beat her in a year.
That's valid, and probably valid enough to turn some red states blue, but I think it will just make more people stay home. Especially if people think it will be a Hillary landslide, they just won't bother, which will keep it from being a landslide.
Well lots of politicians are more hated than these two, it's just very unusual that they managed to be so hated and still win the nominations. Says something about the current state of our political system.
dave is ok
aztek is ok
Not a chance
BotoxAgent
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let's not get complacent, but I am worried that Trump is imploding too fast way before the convention
She could easily win Texas too if there's high hispanic voter turnout.
Well sure nothing is ever impossible. I could marry Emma Watson.
But look how he handled the latest tragedy, his numbers went down. Trump can't resist but be the asshat that he is. Short of a nuclear attack, I doubt anything will matter.
mattiewheels
And then the LORD David Bowie saith to his Son, Jonny Depp: 'Go, and spread my image amongst the cosmos. For every living thing is in anguish and only the LIGHT shall give them reprieve.'
i have a feeling this one could be a record low for voter turnout.
I know Clinton isn't very favorable, but Trump is going to be so much more unfavorable with minorities its going to cancel the negative feeling about Clinton out because at the end of the day, the people that usually vote will still vote and they will vote for Hillary even with a sour face.
gutter_trash
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biggest landslide? nope
there are too many race resenting white males who will vote for Trump,
too many misogynists who irrationally hate Clinton who will vote for Trump.
White women will decide this election with the help of Latinos and non-whites
I already made an account bet that she is guaranteed to win the election.
if Trump wins in November, I get permabanned
there are too many race resenting white males who will vote for Trump,
too many misogynists who irrationally hate Clinton who will vote for Trump.
White women will decide this election with the help of Latinos and non-whites
I already made an account bet that she is guaranteed to win the election.
if Trump wins in November, I get permabanned
Not a chance, but it'll still end up being an electoral ass-kicking. The first elections I really paid attention to were 2000 and 2004, and both of those came down to a single state. In 2008 and 2012 Obama could have lost California and still won. I expect a victory on that scale.
See I feel the opposite. Soooo many minorities will be voting this year to stop he who is the Donald.
wesleyshark
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She has a better chance of winning the election, but I don't think it's a slam dunk to say that she'll beat Trump.
Team Alucard
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Alternatively, the opposite could also happen.
Who would be crazy enough to take that bet? Somebody wanting an account suicide?
Spider from Mars
tap that thorax
Alternatively, the opposite could also happen.
did you get this from reddit?
Rentahamster
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I think it's a little too soon after the incident to properly analyze it in those terms. Just look at how attitudes to the Islam ban are changing. As far as I can tell, Trump still holds more ground on the strength brand.
I'll miss you.
You don't understand how many people don't want Trump to be president.
Hell, I think most people still don't. The GOP primary mentality isn't applicable to the GE. The entire party being secretly against him, every minority hating him, women hating him, all of that shit actually matters.
minor effort
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Alternatively, the opposite could also happen.
I know somebody who won't be getting a speaking gig at the 2020 Democratic National Convention !!
Alternatively, the opposite could also happen.
I find it hard to imagine Trump getting 44% of the vote, Bernie or no. Regardless, the graph doesn't take into account Johnson whom many republicans have migrated to this election.
Also, Sanders ain't gonna run 3rd party. He knows the consequences of that.
Yeah, but it won't.
I think it's a little too soon after the incident to properly analyze it in those terms. Just look at how attitudes to the Islam ban are changing. As far as I can tell, Trump still holds more ground on the strength brand.
I'll miss you.
Sure but prejudice against Muslims can and does extend beyond the White voters.
Donald Trump is fine with targeting all groups of people but White males.
Do you spend much time at r/thedonald?
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
Alternatively, the opposite could also happen.
you're a broken record of a duck's quack
This is just another reason of a long list on why Bernie should concede. So people stop dreaming of a 3rd party run.
RPGCrazied
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He should have did that last night in his address. I have no clue what he is up to now.
DorkLord54
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Box of Kittens
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Alternatively, the opposite could also happen.
Posting a map showing a hypothetical election outcome is not evidence that outcome will happen. Just as Jill Stein desperately begging for Bernie Sanders to join the Green ticket is not evidence that he would do it.
mattiewheels
And then the LORD David Bowie saith to his Son, Jonny Depp: 'Go, and spread my image amongst the cosmos. For every living thing is in anguish and only the LIGHT shall give them reprieve.'
That reminds me that I couldn't believe Ross Perot got 18% of the vote in 92. I really don't remember him being that effective.
I think he is trying to do "right" by his voters. He takes it to the convention and it seems like he fought until the end. He keeps their fire lit and he hopes that people will continue on and start a revolution. That and just giving in to Clinton would sour a lot of folks until he has to.
Or he's a selfish dick.
Undecided.
boiled goose
good with gravy
turnout was high in 08. Might not be as high in 16
The biggest mass shooting in US history by someone pledging allegiance to ISIS happened during Trump's campaign, which is basically centered around anti-muslim sentiment.
And what does he do? Fuck up every chance to capitalize on it by tweeting stupid shit and doubling down.
All that's gonna happen in the next 5 months is Trump burying himself deeper than he already has.
Might not be and probably won't be but it won't matter because minorities are only voting one way.
Let's not even forget that Trump has decided to target states he has absolutely no chance in.
Romars202129
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Is us calling it for Hillary landslide any less hypothetical?
It'll be higher. Fear of an apocalyptic candidate will get people to the voting booths in bigger numbers than hope and change.
whyamihere
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boiled goose
good with gravy
I sure hope so.
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