Jaime sent Jaime to Dorne.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKR1IZ0wpYc
Cersei thought it was a dumb idea to go to Dorne.
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Jaime sent Jaime to Dorne.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKR1IZ0wpYc
Cersei thought it was a dumb idea to go to Dorne.
This is just proving my point. Sansa wanted Jon to die, and she already knew Rickon was dead. She made him the sacrificial lamb, there are a million other ways they could have isolated Ramsay.
ThatCrazyGuy
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Have a link?
Didn't post a link cus some people shit a brick when you even say the word "book".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rZIBmv_bb4
Lots of cool stuff that we will never hear about in the show. Don't click if you're the type of person who thinks it's a spoiler if someone talks about a king that lived ten thousand years ago cus it was talked about in the book.
More_Badass
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Yup, as soon as they were surrounded, I instantly thought of Carlin talking about that battle and how men would suffocate and die in the crush of bodies.
Nameless
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That was more about saving her daughter after her life was blatantly threatened. Tyrion sending Myrcella to Dorne, however, was very much a poor chess move, meant to mend the feud between the Lannisters and Martells and ensure Dorne's support against Stannis, and in the wars to come. It did neither, and sending Myrcella to live amongst her enemies did ultimately lead to her losing her life.
Freeza Under The Shower
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No, she didn't, man. While in the real world that would definitely have happened, we are talking about a fantasy world where the commander somehow keeps standing till the end.
(which in reality was because the weren't part of the battle, they were firmly waaaaay in the back). You need to evaluate motives based on their diegetic logic, not what would realistically have happened.
And Sansa likely assumed / knew that they would assist in time for him to survive, as the worried look at the last charge shows. He's her brother and she isn't evil in that regard. She lost her naivete, but she still holds values.
Btw, I'm hoping we get to see the crypt next week.
neoism
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wat how?
That's actually how I felt about the scene as well.
I should rephrase - it was a happy ending for Game of Thrones. In the realm of happy endings, it was grim.
neoism
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i dun know I never liked Sansa but I really dont think she wants Jon dead their is no reason for it... he is her last living brother beside Tree bro which she doesn't know is alive or not... Shes no better than Ramsey if soo... it would be a shitty 360 for her character so I dont see it but yeah you never know
besides doesn't Ayra still want her dead because she still thinks she betrayed their father in season 1-2 or am I remembering wrong???
besides doesn't Ayra still want her dead because she still thinks she betrayed their father in season 1-2 or am I remembering wrong???
Audioboxer
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Great episode! I was going to ask if that how you know who
but I remembered someone told me the TV show is ahead of the books now. Will read them all once this season finishes. Enjoying watching it too much.
Above is a vague spoiler for this episode, nothing from the books. I haven't read them or know what is in them outside of someone on GAF telling me the TV show is ahead.
bites it in the books
Above is a vague spoiler for this episode, nothing from the books. I haven't read them or know what is in them outside of someone on GAF telling me the TV show is ahead.
ReplacementPelican
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Such a shame we won't get to explore most of this, the world sounds fascinating.
It'd also be pretty dumb.
Sansa has entered a brand new world now that she joined Jon, this fight is no longer able winning Winterfell, it's about fighting the White Walkers and saving Westeros. Would Sansa betray her family and the world just so she can rule Winterfell when it wouldn't mean shit once the White Walkers came? I don't think so.
Oh you mean like how she blatantly told Jon that Rickon was dead without a single emotion on her face? This is a different Sansa. Do you think Ned Stark would have fed Joffrey to dogs?
Yup with a mix of the American Civil War with the dead bodies being used as an obstacle.
AuthenticM
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That episode would have a budget as big as an entire season's, lol.
Same. I'm scared that I will never again experience a TV show this engaging in my lifetime. I would love to be proven wrong, but I'm not optimistic.
Maybe if HBO adapted Dune...
I have no idea what I'm going to watch after next week's episode, let alone after this series ends.
my only complaint and honesty, it's a minor one, it's how Rickon got killed. You'd think he would make it harder for Ramsay to shoot him with an arrow by not running in a straight line, it was weird and took me off a bit. But then I realized that Rickon is worthless, so I got over it quickly.
People like to call GoT "shlock" but I never agreed with that.
Game of Thrones, to my, is just as good as The Wire or Breaking Bad and just because it's fantasy, it doesn't make it a lesser show than other other greats.
In terms of scale, I really don't think there will ever be a show as big as Game of Thrones, this show is one in a million and the stars will never align again. You need a crazy ambitious story and a massively successful show to be able to do something like GoT again.
Ever hear of Preacher?
Nikodemos
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Dat Azhor Ahai shield yo.
lastplayed
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Even Henry V got an arrow in the face and survived somehow.
More_Badass
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Which will never be able to even come close to achieving the scope or scale of the comics, so can never even come close to matching the scope or scale of GoT
neoism
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I thought this also but LOST was that for me still my fav show ever made... I was REALLLLY into this show but after the red wedding and the end of last season I refuse to really care about any character...never has a show doge shit on literally every damn character I like...as much as this show, but I truly was like blind sided by the red wedding wasn't in a million years excepting that... but you can really only do that once in a show like this then people except it to happen... Even though Jon getting killed pissed me off like a motherfucker I was like of course that just happened.. but still glad he is back.. I'm glad he seems to have plot armor now.. mofo deserves it lol he will either live or die but I dont see it happening til the last episode if it does.
pelicansurf
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I wish I could impart my knowledge to Rickon. Bro, don't run in a straight line. Just randomly dash from left to right. Guy would have to get super lucky to hit you if you're just zig zagging in random spurts.
ComputerBlue
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Preacher is not even a month old, lol.
We'll see how good it holds up when it's 60 episodes in.
Nameless
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Rickon=Ricky from Boyz N The Hood. No concept of a simple serpentine pattern
Silly complaint imo, the end result would have been the same and it just would have looked dumber to have him running side to side across that field.
I don't buy it. If she wanted him to die she wouldn't have pleaded with him to listen to her about not doing what Ramsay wants. Sansa is becoming smart and learning how to play the game, but she hasn't turned into a villain. Everyone with half a brain knew Rickon was dead as soon as Ramsay got his hands on him, Jon simply had no idea the kind of man he was dealing with and Sansa played the odds that keeping the Littlefinger army a secret gave them better odds of actually surprising Ramsay.
The way I interpreted basically most of the episode (and most of the season really) is that Jon has not been the same since being resurrected, and almost went into this battle with a deathwish. He begged Meli not to resurrect him again. He rushed towards an entire army. Seemed almost relieved when he realized the cavalry is going to destroy him. Then he almost looks like he gives up during the battle at other times. But when ge gets trampled under bodies he doesn't just lay there, he fights his way up again and as Kit Harington describes it, it's like he's reborn again when he finally makes it out of the crowd.
I don't know, I thought it was brilliant. Jon's actions made sense and his character seemed to have a journey within the battle itself.
"Don't do what he wants", was her only advice for him because she wanted to spring the Vale army on the battle as a later game surprise and didn't want Jon to die early in the battle by doing something dumb. Like running out into the middle of the battlefield completely alone and at the mercy of hundreds of archers, for example.
But Ramsay said he was a part of her now. Obviously, he could sense his unborn child inside of her, bro./s
Boombloxer
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Great episode.
I think that next ep might the reveal. Was rewatching Episode 3 and Sword of the Morning fight, pretty sure they're going to come back to that.
Side note, that fight was pretty awesome. 1 on 5 and basically won.
I think that next ep might the reveal. Was rewatching Episode 3 and Sword of the Morning fight, pretty sure they're going to come back to that.
Side note, that fight was pretty awesome. 1 on 5 and basically won.
ComputerBlue
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Ricky was fucked anyway, shotgun spreads.
neoism
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SaganIsGOAT
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That fucking shot was incredible. So well done with the horses takin dudes out and shit 🙌
Possible, but it seems too straightforward for him.
For those who say the show has become predictable and generic...you can't have expected the Starks to lose every season, could you? This is probably one of the few times this show has delivered on the catharsis and revenge that most fans were seeking ever since Ned's beheading in S1 and the Red Wedding in S3. Littlefinger's arrival is not a deus ex machina since it was foreshadowed many times prior. And yes, Jon had impenetrable plot armor against those arrow volleys, but what do you expect from a character that was literally resurrected from the dead?
S6 is the year of the Starks. Except for little Rickon, RIP, but really he should have zig-zagged.
S6 is the year of the Starks. Except for little Rickon, RIP, but really he should have zig-zagged.
More_Badass
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I think he means that metaphorically, that he twisted and hardened her. Some of his ruthlessness passed onto her. Like I said earlier, they both sacrificed men for a strategic battlefield advantage
Definitely agreed. I was joking, but it doesn't really read that way.
darkwing-buck
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Prime Jaime vs Current Jon Snow
who wins in a 1 v 1?
who wins in a 1 v 1?
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