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Red Dead Redemption heading to Xbox One Backward Compatibility this Friday

Hale-XF11

Member
Anyone else have a hard time finishing this game? I got so bored with it that I just couldn't work up the desire to play it anymore.
 

Timu

Member
That's it, I'm buying this game again, but this time for Xbox 360 as I had the PS3 version on launch day.

This is the news I've always wanted!!!
 

etta

my hard graphic balls
Cannot fucking wait until Friday holy fucking shit. Modern Warfare, Black Ops, Red Dead Redemption, Halo 3 and Halo Reach, Gears of War 2 and 3, Bioshock and Bioshock Infinite all playable on current generation Xbox by this Holiday!

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Now I just need Splinter Cell Conviction and Blacklist, Mass Effect 2 and 3, Modern Warfare 2, LA Noire, and Max Payne 3 and I'll be happy as a clam.
 

bede-x

Member
Cannot fucking wait until Friday holy fucking shit. Modern Warfare, Black Ops, Red Dead Redemption, Halo 3 and Halo Reach, Gears of War 2 and 3, Bioshock and Bioshock Infinite all playable on current generation Xbox by this Holiday!

And they'll all carry over to Scorpio as well. I've been wanting console libraries to transcend generations for years, especially as we move towards the digital future, and it feels every bit as good as I thought it would.

Fingers crossed that they add Ninja Gaiden II, Radiant Silvergun and Catherine soon :)
 

MrMephistoX

Member
And they'll all carry over to Scorpio as well. I've been wanting console libraries to transcend generations for years, especially as we move towards the digital future, and it feels every bit as good as I thought it would.

Fingers crossed that they add Ninja Gaiden II, Radiant Silvergun and Catherine soon :)

Yeah it's too bad that Sony hasn't lowered the price on PlayStation Now or offered the option to outright buy stuff; yeah it's streaming but I'd still love to be able to access VF5 without paying a subscription...then again framiness would be nill if Sega would just make it BC on Xbox.
 

Ash735

Member
Guys there is no exclusive deal on either side of Xbox BC or PlayStation 2 Classics, Rockstar just usually take their sweet time to clear things and usually do it in phases instead, which means this time they've managed to clear all versions of The Warriors on PlayStation and Red Dead Redemption has finally cleared on Xbox at the same time. There's still another batch of Rockstar Games coming to PS2 Classics in the next few months.
 

Ushay

Member
The one game (besides Mass Effect Trlogy) that deserves a full remaster. Will it ever happen or should I just bite and get this and Undead Nightmare Pack? Both are £6 each.
 

DocSeuss

Member
But how much money?

Microsoft just drop 26 billions on Linkedin. I could think that exclusivity would not cost them 1/20 of this amount...

Timed exclusive perhaps...

But you agree that would be a hell of a bump on console sales, even with timed exclusivity.

Did the exclusivity deal with Capcom with SFV hurt its reputation with Xbox Fans??? It didn't. So it's the case with Rockstar. Nobody gets hurt if this deal happen...

To be honest, considering Bully ant Warriors only on PS4 it's clear that Rockstar is open to deals...

Okay so.

You should probably stop talking, because you don't know what you're talking about.

1) this isn't exclusive, this is backwards compatibility. It is a feature that Microsoft has and a feature that Sony does not. That is why it exists. Because the Xbox One has a good feature and the PS4 does not feature this same good feature, which sucks for the PS4.

2) this game was a technical nightmare and that is why it never got a PC port when every other Rockstar games ever have a PC port. That is also likely why we will not see a port of the PS3 version of this game any time soon. Technical. Fucking. Nightmare.

3) Sony has PS2 games on PS4 because those are PS2 games. Red Dead Redemption is a PS3 game. You are more likely to get Red Dead Revolver on PS4 than Red Dead Redemption. Once again, this is not a 'deal' situation. PS2 classics would not exist on the Xbox One not because of an exclusivity arrangement, but because IT'S A DIFFERENT THING ENTIRELY.

Xbox One has backwards compatibility. PS4 does not. PS4 has PS2 games because they're relatively easy to rework. PS4 is unlikely to get PS3 games because PS4 does not have backwards compatibility.

There are no 'deals' going on here. It is highly likely that the only way PS is going to get RDR on the PS4 is if there is a complete remaster. This is not necessary to get it on the Xbox One. The Xbox One doesn't need a remaster, the PS4 does. Simple as that.

Anyways, unless I'm mistaken, port begging is a bannable offense, so I'm not sure why this thread isn't a graveyard right now.
 

DocSeuss

Member
I own the game on disc. If I buy the disc version of undead how does it work? Will the dlc install to the HD?

If you select "manage game," on the X1 menu, you should be able to see all DLC for the game that you own and tell it to download. If you own it on disc, I do not believe it will work for you, but I could be mistaken. You need the disc in the drive as a check that you own the game, so I would assume, and I could be wrong, that the game would essentially require both Undead Nightmare and Red Dead discs in the drive simultaneously, which is impossible, unless Undead Nightmare is considered a standalone. But, like I said, could be wrong. Only real way to find out is to do it, I'd imagine.
 

PreFire

Member
Finally! A reason to play my Xbox one.

I never uninstalled it but I'm pretty sure there's going to be a new version to download anyway. Games take too long to install on this shit

But yippee. Can't wait to play it again
 
But you agree that would be a hell of a bump on console sales, even with timed exclusivity.

Did the exclusivity deal with Capcom with SFV hurt its reputation with Xbox Fans??? It didn't. So it's the case with Rockstar. Nobody gets hurt if this deal happen...

To be honest, considering Bully ant Warriors only on PS4 it's clear that Rockstar is open to deals...

Please, stop treating PS3 emulation on PS4 as a mundane thing to do. It is not. PS3's hardware is way too much exotic to this be accomplished, specially considering the stories about the "code held by gaffer tape" regarding RDR.
 

Gurrry

Member
Now we can focus on hoping Black Ops 2 becomes backwards compatible.

Guys, the next on the list needs to be NCAA 14.

We will likely never get another college football game. The servers for 14 are still active, and there is still a decent community for it. People are updating rosters themselves even though they arent official.

Please Phil, save us college football fans!
 

Inuhanyou

Believes Dragon Quest is a franchise managed by Sony
The one game (besides Mass Effect Trlogy) that deserves a full remaster. Will it ever happen or should I just bite and get this and Undead Nightmare Pack? Both are £6 each.

Get this. RDR remaster will NEVER HAPPEN.

Luckily a spiritual sequel is much more likely to be being worked on right now
 
i wonder if performance is improved since the last time it leaked. It was Ok but a little worse than 360
I played the base game from start to finish when it leaked back in Feb and performance was absolutely fine through my experience... Had literally zero issues.
 

HiiiLife

Member
Cannot fucking wait until Friday holy fucking shit. Modern Warfare, Black Ops, Red Dead Redemption, Halo 3 and Halo Reach, Gears of War 2 and 3, Bioshock and Bioshock Infinite all playable on current generation Xbox by this Holiday!

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Now I just need Splinter Cell Conviction and Blacklist, Mass Effect 2 and 3, Modern Warfare 2, LA Noire, and Max Payne 3 and I'll be happy as a clam.

MW is coming to Xbox on Friday?
 

Chris1

Member
Do you have stories/articles I could read as to why the game is a technical nightmare?

Sounds interesting.

Ash735 works(worked?) at/with Rockstar and posted a detailed explanation as to why RDR code was spaghetti.

Because it's a miracle it even works on consoles, it was slapped together and rushed around until things just made sense, unlike other Rockstar titles from that generation it uses a subset build of the engine, to clear it up, here's how RAGE is broken is broken down...

RAGE ERB1
- Rockstar Presents Table Tennis

RAGE ERB2
- Grand Theft Auto IV
- Midnight Club LA
- Grand Theft Auto: Episodes from Liberty City

RAGE ERB3
- Max Payne 3
- Grand Theft Auto V/Online

RAGE is developed by Rockstar San Diego, the studio that handles the Midnight Club and Red Dead series, for Red Dead Redemption though it uses neither ERB2 or ERB3, it's like a highly customised split off version of ERB2 mixed with some RB3 features (think of it like a 2.5), The code for that was a complete mess and changes were made daily without being documented during development, and as such no PC version of the code was ever made as they strictly focused on getting the Xbox 360 (which was the main focus of RAGE during ERB1 and ERB2) and PlayStation 3 version of the game stable.

After Red Dead Redemption, Rockstar used the year in which L.A.Noire was being pushed (which doesn't use RAGE) to heavily rework RAGE for a new build which took advantage of both PC and PlayStation 3 features, as well as pushing the Xbox 360 to it's limits, this resulted in ERB3 which debuted with Max Payne 3, which of course had a brilliant PC version compared to the previous PC release which at the time was Grand Theft Auto IV/Episodes from Liberty City.

The ONLY way Rockstar could do a remaster of Red Dead Redemption is if they took the game itself and transfered it over to ERB3 and THEN ported it to PC (which in turn would allow PS4 and XBO versions too), but to salvage that mess of a code and actually put that amount of work into it would cost a lot of man hours.

It's not because "they just hate PC gamers", etc, or anything silly like that, it really is because the game itself is a coded mess and it's a surprise it got stable on 360/PS3, if you look at the assets yourself you can even see things like audio and textures thrown in last minute not packed in the archives properly, etc, as an example of how things were being thrown around right up til gold with the game.
 

mauaus

Member
I played the base game from start to finish when it leaked back in Feb and performance was absolutely fine through my experience... Had literally zero issues.

I have no problem with it, however there are some drops here and there they could have optimized
 

Inuhanyou

Believes Dragon Quest is a franchise managed by Sony
People who hate on the 360 SKU of RDR without merit are just salty and unwilling to believe that a game of that beauty could exist on previous gen.

Suck it up guys, it happend 6 years ago and guess what? Still holds up today. Your going to have to start believing it sometime
 

Epcott

Member
Yussss... All that's left that I ask for are OG Xbox games:

Jet Set Radio Future
KOTOR
KOTOR II
Jade Empire
 

icespide

Banned
People who hate on the 360 SKU of RDR without merit are just salty and unwilling to believe that a game of that beauty could exist on previous gen.

Suck it up guys, it happend 6 years ago and guess what? Still holds up today. Your going to have to start believing it sometime

people hate on the 360 version of RDR? I thought people shat on the PS3 version
 
I have the disc but I just bought it digitally for 7 bucks. Seems like a fair price to save a trip out to the garage to dig through boxes and probably get bit by a black widow.
 

VCL

Member
Cannot fucking wait until Friday holy fucking shit. Modern Warfare, Black Ops, Red Dead Redemption, Halo 3 and Halo Reach, Gears of War 2 and 3, Bioshock and Bioshock Infinite all playable on current generation Xbox by this Holiday!

im_beginning_to_think_that_homer_simpson_was_not_the_brilliant_tactician_i_thought_he_was.gif
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Now I just need Splinter Cell Conviction and Blacklist, Mass Effect 2 and 3, Modern Warfare 2, LA Noire, and Max Payne 3 and I'll be happy as a clam.
don't forget dead rising 1
 
Anyone play this when it leaked a few months ago? Were impressions of it good from a technical standpoint? Some BC stuff I've tried has been real hit and miss, but I also haven't really tried it for larger games since it left the preview program.
 
So this means it's gonna be 1080P 60FPS? If not why would I want to play a game 6 years old and the only thing is its on a new machine with old flavor.

Now get excited if it was 4K 30 or 60 FPS on any machine, then we could have some good talks. Guess this is the world were little things excite people... 6 years to become backwards compatible and we are happy... I am getting old...
 
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