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Deep Silver publishing Persona 5, SMT4A, 7th Dragon (& more Sega/Atlus games?) in EU

Kandrick

GAF's Ed McMahon
Why do you care about a date then? Or are you telling me you're going to pirate the games?

I'm gonna play it on my custom made super secret PS4 emulator on PC of course.

All joking aside, because if i want to play it regardless of JP voices being in as dlc or not, i can still play without giving Atlus money. Rent, have a friend pass it to me when they are done with it, etc.

Also regarding the date, because it sucks for everyone in Europe ? Not just for me. Plenty of friends don't want to import and pay high shipping/import tax and are big fans of Persona ? And the way Atlus has handled the publishing of their games in Europe in the past decades has been pretty bad overall.
 
I hope we hear about a SMT: Apocalypse release date soon at least, Persona 5 is a ways off so i can wait for that news. The new SMT is supposed to be out sometime this Summer in NA so I wanna hear about Apoc. Wouldn't mind if Apoc is sometime in Winter, at least.
 

Terra_Ex

Member
Nice to have confirmation on SMT IV: Apocalypse, at the very least we won't have a repeat of the SMT4 EU saga.
 

danthefan

Member
Can someone explain to me why it's seemingly so difficult for Atlus to get their games out in Europe? Even in English, if it's out in the USA then why the hell can it not just be sent to Europe and sold too?
 

Zhao_Yun

Member
Can someone explain to me why it's seemingly so difficult for Atlus to get their games out in Europe? Even in English, if it's out in the USA then why the hell can it not just be sent to Europe and sold too?

Trust me, we asked ourselves these questions for many many years...

Challenge accepted! All of the following is totally real, I did my investigatation.

Nice work, sir!
 

Faustek

Member
high-quality anime such as "My Little Sister Can't Be This Cute"

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Other than that, would read again.
 

Zyrox

Member
Now now, not counting my eggs till they're hatched. I mean, that's nice and all, but I need some concrete release dates. If there is a noticable delay from the US release for P5 I'll end up importing anyway.
 

ZombAid82

Member
How high is the possibility that deep silver includes the Japanese dub?
Are they known for doing this?
Would be soooooo awesome!
 

convo

Member
How high is the possibility that deep silver includes the Japanese dub?
Are they known for doing this?
Would be soooooo awesome!

They did publish Catherine in europe and that did get dual audio to everyones surprise. Who knows how these things get decided i won't get my hopes up of them trying for this obviously bigger and longer game.
 

Setsu00

Member
They did publish Catherine in europe and that did get dual audio to everyones surprise. Who knows how these things get decided i won't get my hopes up of them trying for this obviously bigger and longer game.

Unless I missed something, Catherine did NOT have dual audio.
 

Shadoken

Member
I dont get the hate. The blog very clearly states the issue with SEGA EU publishing.


"but why? You have SEGA Europe, use them!” Yes, we do have a European branch, but they’re very much their own business, and as a business unit, SEGA Europe focuses on our Western IP titles – the titles developed by our Western studios such as Creative Assembly, Relic Entertainment, Sports Interactive and in partnership with studios such as PlaySport Games. With the majority of those titles being released on PC, we’ve seen an evolution of SEGA Europe into a more digitally-centric business over the last few years. For any packaged releases of SEGA Europe Western IPs they already partner with Deep Silver to bring those titles to market in Europe. It made sense to mirror that partnership with the SEGA of America-managed Japanese IP titles which currently have a heavier bias towards physical release. Sega Europe will still be publishing Yakuza 0."


I dont think SEGA EU even have the resources to do a Physical release. They are digital focussed company , and even SEGA EU Physical releases are handled by Deep Silver. So now that partnership extends to Sega US and Japan.
 
I dont get the hate. The blog very clearly states the issue with SEGA EU publishing.


"but why? You have SEGA Europe, use them!” Yes, we do have a European branch, but they’re very much their own business, and as a business unit, SEGA Europe focuses on our Western IP titles – the titles developed by our Western studios such as Creative Assembly, Relic Entertainment, Sports Interactive and in partnership with studios such as PlaySport Games. With the majority of those titles being released on PC, we’ve seen an evolution of SEGA Europe into a more digitally-centric business over the last few years. For any packaged releases of SEGA Europe Western IPs they already partner with Deep Silver to bring those titles to market in Europe. It made sense to mirror that partnership with the SEGA of America-managed Japanese IP titles which currently have a heavier bias towards physical release. Sega Europe will still be publishing Yakuza 0."


I dont think SEGA EU even have the resources to do a Physical release. They are digital focussed company , and even SEGA EU Physical releases are handled by Deep Silver. So now that partnership extends to Sega US and Japan.
Square Enix releases are also handled by Deep Silver/Koch for example. So are Koei Tecmos. Having distribution partners isn't an uncommon thing. Pretty much every smaller publisher has several distributors for different EU countries.

Square Enix releases their console games on disc just fine under their label
 

convo

Member
Apparently they originally said that they were looking into dual audio when it was announced for Europe. But seems like nothing came of that.

Hm must have missed that and mistaken it with that eng fan-patch of the japanese ver. It's pretty weird someone tried to do that.
 

StereoVsn

Member
They did publish Catherine in europe and that did get dual audio to everyones surprise. Who knows how these things get decided i won't get my hopes up of them trying for this obviously bigger and longer game.
Wait, that could result in me importing an Atlus game from Europe into US....... That would be interesting to say the least!
Edit: Of course that would not happen since we are all backer guy gins. I hope this will become a new gaf meme.
 

Aki-at

Member
Can someone explain to me why it's seemingly so difficult for Atlus to get their games out in Europe? Even in English, if it's out in the USA then why the hell can it not just be sent to Europe and sold too?

SEGA Europe's only office is in the UK and they don't even distribute their games in Europe with their partners handling it.

It's a infrastructure thing I'm sure of it, hopefully this partnership lasts and provides SEGA America more incentive to bring their Japanese games.
 

Faustek

Member
EFIGS translation for what?

Hiraoka mentioned that they where preparing for that together with NISA. Can't remember in which interview but probably DPS.
NISA publishes Odin Sphere in EU, it has EFIGS. I wonder who did what.

Square Enix releases are also handled by Deep Silver/Koch for example. So are Koei Tecmos. Having distribution partners isn't an uncommon thing. Pretty much every smaller publisher has several distributors for different EU countries.

Square Enix releases their console games on disc just fine under their label

I like Badlands for some strange reason. Probably because they always snitch before the main event is ready to be presented ^^
 

meppi

Member
I'm very glad we're getting these games, but at the same time I'm a bit apprehensive seeing who they picked.
They certainly need to prove them as thus far I can't say I'm too impressed with their efforts.

I'd much rather have NIS.
 

Labadal

Member
I wonder if we'll get physical releases for the 3DS games.

I have the US copy of persona 5 pre-ordered so nothing changes for me on that front.
 
Hiraoka mentioned that they where preparing for that together with NISA. Can't remember in which interview but probably DPS.
NISA publishes Odin Sphere in EU, it has EFIGS. I wonder who did what

Maybe Square Enix back in the days? The PS2 Original had EFIGS. They might re-used it.
 

Eolz

Member
Challenge accepted! All of the following is totally real, I did my investigatation.
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Wow, that was long, but good!

I wonder if we'll get physical releases for the 3DS games.

I have the US copy of persona 5 pre-ordered so nothing changes for me on that front.

I'm pretty sure we will, Deep Silver is all about that, even if they don't have cool CEs.
 
Hiraoka mentioned that they where preparing for that together with NISA. Can't remember in which interview but probably DPS.
NISA publishes Odin Sphere in EU, it has EFIGS. I wonder who did what.
Square Enix published the original PS2 Odin Sphere and did EFIGS for that. I just assumed they re-used that one, but I'm not sure.
 

Faustek

Member
Maybe Square Enix back in the days? The PS2 Original had EFIGS. They might re-used it.

Square Enix published the original PS2 Odin Sphere and did EFIGS for that. I just assumed they re-used that one, but I'm not sure.

アメリカが6月7日発売、欧州はQ2に発売と、日本の発売日から少し遅れることになりますが、それは英語だけでなく、フランス語・イタリア語・ドイツ語・スペイン語の5か国語のローカライズを行なっているためです

https://www.jp.playstation.com/blog/detail/2198/20160114-osl.html

the wording there, if I'm right, comes of as the excuse for it being after the US date was due to the effort to localise it in the different languages.
But hey, we know nothing of the deal with SE for the PS2 game, so it might be that they own the translated work from the PS2 days.
 

RalchAC

Member
Out of curiosity, for people wanting FIGS - In your experiences do your games normally end up with;

— FIGS translations based on the original JP?
— FIGS translations of English localisation?
— localisations for each individual language/country?

I have basically come to accept that most times we get dual audio and subtitles, the subs are often of the English localisation and not always direct translations of the original language. But I'm grateful to even get that tbh.

Mmmm... I haven't analized it really seriously, but when I played Tales of Xillia with English voices and Spanish subtitles I had the impression that the translation was based on the English script.

Unless we are talking about a really big games like a mainline Final Fantasy, MGS or Zelda, my bet is that they go Japanese -> English -> Others. It must be cheaper.
 
They need to do a LE that has SMT IV and SMT IV A in it, both on carts. It would be the ultimate apology to SMT and Atlus fans in general.
 
Seems like they haven't done any 3DS games yet (judging by their homepage), so hopefully that goes for those titles also. Persona 5 isn't region locked anyway. It would be crazy to get (one part of) SMT4 physical after all.

They published that Cartoon Network 3DS game and will publish Mighty No 9 for the 3DS soon. But besides that I can't remeber anything else.

They need to do a LE that has SMT IV and SMT IV A in it, both on carts. It would be the ultimate apology to SMT and Atlus fans in general.

I would buy that in a heartbeat.
 
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