absolutely. Black man driving with weed and a gun and a baby in the car? The framing is already all set up.
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Woman records boyfriend after getting shot by the Police on Facebook
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absolutely. Black man driving with weed and a gun and a baby in the car? The framing is already all set up.
Kid Kamikaze10
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Here's a thread that will hopefully shed some light on what you can do.
Here's a thread that will hopefully shed some light on what you can do.
FUCKING HELL!!!!!!!!!! I'm feeling so pain from all the madness today.
Please tell me that justice will be served? Something got to be done for this is sickening.
Yes, I agree with your advice. Let the cops take the wallet instead while you keep your hands up or on the desk in front. Never go for it yourself for the cops will use that as an excuse to kill you. I think that would be better as the chances of being killed might be lower in comparison to you taking out the wallet .
And fuck the people ("supporters") who enable them.
Valjean Lafitte
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Wait, are these gung-ho co-workers cops or military guys?
JHoNNy1OoO
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Another life cut short because of an idiotic cop who thinks every black man is trying to assassinate them the first chance they get. He freaking informs him of the gun and the CCW permit and that is still not enough for him. God help us.
CassidyIzABeast
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As long as the majorities first reaction is "Well what did he do?" Don't expect much change.
Well, it goes off how the nation was brought up.
Anecdotal, if you'd like to call this, but my friend and I were just on a drive in the middle of no where just talking. (He's white) I decided to smoke some weed, something that I rarely do, and this being in the middle of the United States (mid west) where corn fields and crops are, they tend to have DUI checkpoints.
Well, we drove up on a checkpoint out of nowhere at 12 A.M. My friend had an entire bag of weed on him and he had a bowl of weed packed and ready to smoke.
My heart stopped for a bit, but for some reason, the officer looked at us and waved us on.
Getting caught with weed and being high, you may as well just kiss a warning goodbye. My friend and I drove for about 2 minutes, looked at each other and laughed really hard at the circumstances.
Police aren't afraid of civilians. They are afraid of minorities. And they are afraid of minorities because minorities have been oppressed for hundreds of years and, since the last 50 years, have increasingly gotten fed up with that shit and have fought back. So cops fear the situation that the institutionalized racism that our corrupt legal system created in the first place.
Cops don't treat white suburbanites like this.
that is pretty high when you think the black population is like 13%
military.
GoldenEye 007
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Yeah it's just straight racism. I posted in the other thread, but there is some research and historical information stating that policing in America has roots in Slave Patrols way back to the early 1700s. They eventually evolved into the policing structure today after the end of slavery.
Valjean Lafitte
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Obviously there are much, much larger parts of the problem, but a good chunk of it comes from cops having no connection to the neighborhoods they're being tasked to keep safe. You put a white cop in his own neighborhood, they'll behave mostly as you'd expect of law enforcement. You put a white cop, who has little connection to African Americans outside of arresting them or other crime related activities, in an African American neighborhood that he just sees crime in and all of a sudden they become nervous, jumpy and see everyone as threats. The neighborhood doesn't see the cops as any good either, for obvious reasons , and that escalates the tension.
It isn't going to fix the problem completely, but simple community outreach programs would at least be a damn step. Any step is needed at this point.
Could've sworn I read a post like this last year and the year before that. Huh.
What exactly is she supposed to do he was shot four (five?) times? She's helping him more by video taping it than anything else she could have ever done.
Jesus christ, one of the most chilling aspects of this is how fucking calm and respectful she still is to the police officers, it's fucking ingrained in her to act this way no matter what. I lost count of the 'sirs'. They're STILL pointing their guns directly at her and screaming at her. The officer is honestly more phased than she is, he's trying to justify his actions in real time while she's trying just to act in the best way she knows how not to have them shoot her as well.
sindbadthesailor
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And somehow the cop will still get away with this. That's the american way of doing things.
FloatingDivider
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Cops don't even patrol white suburbs, I can't remember where I saw it (might have been louis theroux?) but it seemed like they're clearly geographically profiling neighborhoods with a large minority population.
The funny thing is that minorities will become the majority in America over the next years, I wanna see how white people will react then.
Oh yes they certainly do. My sister lives in a nice suburban neighborhood. The cops act like fucking dragnet. Courteous, polite, "my cat's up a tree" milk and toast police officers. They patrol suburbs to keep the problem minorities away.
Since my sister has a home there and she's light skinned and works at a school and "speaks proper," I guess she is accepted there.
It's areas where minorities live that cops don't patrol. You call a cop in the project, they will flat out never show up.
jellies_two
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Washington Post picks it up
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...traffic-stop-aftermath-broadcast-on-facebook/
I don't like the framing they have already applied:
That is the dog whistle for those that want to ignore this.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...traffic-stop-aftermath-broadcast-on-facebook/
I don't like the framing they have already applied:
That is the dog whistle for those that want to ignore this.
I honestly think it would take like 10 in a very short space of time all with damning video footage available to the public to get close to making a change.
I had this thought when we watched Eric Garner get choked to death while crying, "I can't breathe!" No charges. And here we are. Again.
We're supposed to treat cops with respect but they apparently aren't obligated to do the same for us. Fucking worthless police
This is what I hate but I feel like it's the truth. Fuck this shit pisses me off
FloatingDivider
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Oh that's even worse then. As an outsider looking in this all looks completely fubar. That being said the thing I saw wasn't about responding to distress calls, it was them essentially going to the projects to patrol for random traffic violations that they could escalate into bigger sentences like possession charges or something.
Anyone who thinks this is a turning point is delusional. Especially considering the political atmosphere right now.
This will be a generational problem. We will deal with this our entire lives.
EDIT: Just got a massive sense of Deja Vu. Too upset to dig through my post history, but I'm fairly certain I typed those exact same words like 3 or 4 shootings ago.
lightskintwin
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This has been a problem since the end of the Civil War. This is not a coincidence.
Jzero
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Most american military men i know are racist fucks, i don't know if it's a sanctuary for them there or something.
I've gotten heat for saying such things about military personnel, but a lot of them come back with that occupation mentality still in them. Then they get hired as cops. I was in the military myself and it was difficult to deprogram that shit from my head even when I was never as gung-ho as some of the more... fanatical Marines.
Dehumanization happens all the time. I had a bunkmate clip out some news paper stories about Marines getting killed in Iraq. He posted them up as collage of sorts and wrote "reasons to kill Iraqi babies." Back then, even I didn't flinch at that and neither did anyone else. Today, I feel absolutely disgusted.
GHG
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I'm sorry, it shouldn't matter if the cop has a connection to his patrol area or not. Police are supposed to be beacons of calm, strong men who feel they are in control of situations and have the resources necessary to be in control of any situation that comes their way. They wear vests, they carry weapons, they can call for backup, their cars are reinforced and most importantly they should have had the necessary training. These guys should feel near invincible, not run around like scared jumpy little puppy dogs. These guys are supposed to feel badass, almost super hero like. The whole point is they are supposed to be going out there to save America within its borders right?
So what's the problem here? Are they hiring the wrong types of individuals to be cops? Are these guys strong enough mentally? Does the training inspire confidence or does it fill them with fear and paranoia?
BudokaiMR2
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As I said on a previous page, I wouldn't be surprised if it was a bullshit stop but on older cars like that sometimes a handbrake will activate the brake lights. On most cars that isn't the case though.
Taillights =/= Brake lights
Can't really tell the make of the car, but usually the running lights are on the bottom (in line with the running light on the side fender) and the brake lights are on the top.
Brake lights are almost always going to be the bigger portion of the tail lamp.
And yeah, it could have just been something as mundane as one bulb being out or a crack in the plastic or anything.
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Makoto Yuki
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Not America. 'Murica though, they will shoot anyone because it's a basic freedom.
I remember in basic training that there were tons of guys like that. So eager to get their hands on a weapon preaching about non-sense and wanting to see combat. One guy passed out when they showed him a video of IED victims. He was one of the most tough talking guys there. That was all he was though, talk. Those people shouldn't have weapons.
And relating back to the thread. Not everyone should have a weapon. Police especially with all the murders their involved with.
That's kinda the point though. The world is extreme. And all these police murders are getting extremely out of hand its ridiculous.
It will not be a turning point. Not enough Americans care. They get far more worked up about blocked traffic (hundreds of miles away from them) then they do over another dead black man.
How do we make them care? As a white guy in rural Oregon I don't know what to do. This won't even be a conversation here tomorrow. On social media it will be nothing until some protests happen. Then some will bitch about that.
How do we make them care? As a white guy in rural Oregon I don't know what to do. This won't even be a conversation here tomorrow. On social media it will be nothing until some protests happen. Then some will bitch about that.
BudokaiMR2
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Yeah, and I thought the same thing about that one incident where one officer actually managed to shoot his partner on accident, blames the suspect, then executes him. Oh and of course they stand around while the man bleeds out and pleads for his life.
Scared to even look up how that turned out in the end.....
It's 11:30. I should be going to bed, but I can't. I'm too pissed off. Jesus fuck, this is insane.
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GoldenEye 007
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Well they got themselves a nigger, so probably. Open season in the US since the 18th century.
well yeah, that's the kind of things I'm talking about too. To give a better example - and I swear to god I'm not making this up - about 2 or 3 weeks ago, my sister was getting her kids ready to go to school/go to work after her husband had left, when she heard a voice through an intercom yelling "Step away from the rose bushes with your hands in the air and drop the weapon"
So she stepped outside - there was a middle eastern man in her rose bushes cutting her flowers. He was trying to explain that he thought they were beautiful and wanted to cut a few and plant them in his garden or something like that. The cops had been on patrol and found him in her front yard. They asked if she wanted to press charges and she said no, but told the guy that what he was doing was rude and he shouldn't be hanging around people's front yards like that.
They caught him on patrol, because that's what cops do in white neighborhoods. They integrate into the community, become a real common, persistent force. Night and fucking day compared to how they treat projects - the only time police come to the projects is to arrest people. They come, swoop in, and take you to jail. And never come back unless there is some other black person that needs to go to jail.
This is probably part of the problem. Over policing.
Here in downtown SF you can't get a police officer to come out unless someone has a gun or is getting shot. Go across the bay to Oakland or Richmond and you'll see a much different response time.
Where does your sister live, because that just doesn't happen in general. It certainly wasn't common when I was growing up and I've lived in plenty of what you would call "white neighborhoods" over the years.
Sadly this. If anything, it'll get traction tomorrow until it's left in the ether.
If the only exposure to the people you're defending is when shit goes wrong, you will see everyone as a potential threat or trouble source. This feeds already ingrained biases you might have. Community outreach would at least help build a sense within officers that the people they are tasked to defend are people, and not just objects to be watched. These kinds of programs have definitely helped defuse tension between cops and communities in the past.
Cops should be like you describe, but in the end they are still just people. Once more, they are people who don't have exposure to minorities outside of them being involved in trouble. That's enough to turn a cop who's only slightly biased into a full racist dumbass.
I'm not saying this is THE solution. I'm not even saying it's a large piece of a puzzle, but for systematic problems like this, you need to work at the problem at many angles and any step at this point is better than where we're at.
I guess we need to distinguish that cops hiring racists and bigots is not the only issue here. Stricter hiring is not going to root out the issue. The problem is, the way we've built our system already instills and reinforces bigotry. The job right now is literally teaching our cops that minorities are their enemy, and we're reaping the results of that.
GoldenEye 007
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Not sure if you watched the video, but the original stop and shooting happened when it was still daylight. Like clear daylight where headlights and thus tail lights would not be needed yet.
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