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Shocking news: Moderately obese people die up to three years prematurely
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Astral Dog
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thats not too many years
TickleMeElbow
Member
Three years or not, some of you are planning to die at like 60 - 70? Set the bar a little higher I mean damn. It's 2016, you should aim for at least 80 haha.
BladeoftheImmortal
Member
I'm trying to get thinner. All this grief for three years, eh.
Hah... 3 years isn't that much for my crappy lifestyle if I'm to be honest.
Certainly the time I lose at the end is gained by not doing annoying things that I feel like I should, but don't actually like to do!
I mean... I totally get that been fit and healthy and slim is its own reward... but the loss of 3 out of what... 77 isn't what seems to me like a huge deal.
With that been said, I though this thread was actually about how been moderately obese was 3 times deadlier for men than women.
Certainly the time I lose at the end is gained by not doing annoying things that I feel like I should, but don't actually like to do!
I mean... I totally get that been fit and healthy and slim is its own reward... but the loss of 3 out of what... 77 isn't what seems to me like a huge deal.
With that been said, I though this thread was actually about how been moderately obese was 3 times deadlier for men than women.
Clockwork5
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On one hand I am glad that my body turns garbage into "perfect health". (Quote from my doctor)
On the other hand I am no fool, I know you reap what you sow. But if my doctor is telling me this, while completely aware of my terrible diet of cholesterol, trans-fat, sugar, sodium and carbs what is my motivation to adopt a semi reasonable diet?
On the other hand I am no fool, I know you reap what you sow. But if my doctor is telling me this, while completely aware of my terrible diet of cholesterol, trans-fat, sugar, sodium and carbs what is my motivation to adopt a semi reasonable diet?
IdreamofHIME
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3 years?
Worth it.
Worth it.
Beer Monkey
Member
But how much suffering and expense in the several years prior to that early death?
RobbieNick
Junior Member
My uncle Sandy lived to be 90 and he was pretty fat. It works out for William Shatner. He's 85, but his fat face makes him look 70-75.
Depends on your luck, genetics, and other issues you might have had with your health before.
I mean, I know a guy that tries to keep himself nice and fit... but he's totally wrecked his knees as the course of a runner. About 60 now... I'm guessing he's not going to have it super great for the next couple decades.
TatteredHat
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The title says moderately, buddy. ;p
total knee arthroplasty if it's bad enough. pretty good prognosis with joint replacement in active/fit individuals. plus osteo arthritis and general joint deconditioning isnt systemic like the issues that plague overweight individuals.
DiscoJer
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This is by BMI
I am 6' tall. By BMI, My "moderately obese" range is between 220 and 258. I am at the low end of that, 225 or so and while I am carrying some extra pounds, I don't think it's enough to make my old age a living hell that some seem to imply that being "moderately obese" causes. (I actually have a somewhat bad knee, but it was from Tae Kwon Do when I was 20 and 170 lbs)
Here's a BMI calculator if you want to see what your moderately obese range is (30 to 35)
http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/health/educational/lose_wt/BMI/bmicalc.htm
I am 6' tall. By BMI, My "moderately obese" range is between 220 and 258. I am at the low end of that, 225 or so and while I am carrying some extra pounds, I don't think it's enough to make my old age a living hell that some seem to imply that being "moderately obese" causes. (I actually have a somewhat bad knee, but it was from Tae Kwon Do when I was 20 and 170 lbs)
Here's a BMI calculator if you want to see what your moderately obese range is (30 to 35)
http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/health/educational/lose_wt/BMI/bmicalc.htm
BossDarkseid
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Sounds reasonable.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
The stereotypes in this thread write themselves.
Seriously. You may only lose a few years of your life from obesity but every single day of life is affected by it.
I'm not one to fat shame, but if your take away from this is that a couple years less isn't a big deal, you are a fucking idiot.
Seriously. You may only lose a few years of your life from obesity but every single day of life is affected by it.
I'm not one to fat shame, but if your take away from this is that a couple years less isn't a big deal, you are a fucking idiot.
bitbydeath
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But first to go when the zombies come.
Surface of Me
I'm not an NPC. And neither are we.
Currently have a BMI of 27. Im good with it.
Dancing Queen
Banned
It's NeoGAF. The only thing that needs to be working is their ass and their fingers, to be sitting all day playing games and inside the office.
I have seen a lot of people deteriorate to a shell of their former selves in their last 5~10 years. From Alzheimers, to barely being able to walk, to just losing any sharpness to their mind, to falling down/breaking something and ultimately dying after being bedridden in a hospital for months.
I've seen very few older people die happily, with all their wits and energy, in their sleep at the end of their life.
I think I'm okay with not getting that old, honestly. Even though I'm under 25 bmi and will still be old and miserable, guess I should eat more fat and sugar.
I've seen very few older people die happily, with all their wits and energy, in their sleep at the end of their life.
I think I'm okay with not getting that old, honestly. Even though I'm under 25 bmi and will still be old and miserable, guess I should eat more fat and sugar.
Dancing Queen
Banned
Google top 10 causes of mortality in America.
I'm totally for been fit and healthy.
Just not at the cost of eating rabbit food and lots of boring ass exercise.
Obviously there's a healthy compromise in there... which is why I think there's a huge market for making this stuff easy and fun for people to do (eating healthy/exercising).
e.g. Pokemon Go.
They do indeed! You are fitting into the picture quite nicely as well!
Affected as in feeling good? Because you are clearly not seeing the side where people enjoying stuff like food is a big part of their quality of life. This is obviously a trade-off between your physical and mental health but then again this is a thread about moderately obese. These aren't people that need help because they are seriously endangering themselves.
I don't think these people are fucking idiots. They just want something different out of their lifes than you. If your shtick is living as long as possible by trying to avoid all that you deem unhealthy, by all means, do it. Meanwhile other people are trying to enjoy the time they have been given.
Not only that, health complications from chronic stress, anxiety and loneliness will probably kill me way beforehand
The Real Abed
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Either you mean "Hear, hear". Or you disagree with the fact that eating a double-cheeseburger every day is delicious.
MisterFalcon
Member
Only 3 ? That's less then what Denis Leary commented on:
The real problem is all those years before you die are shit as you struggle to do basic things like getting off the couch or walking.
The real problem is all those years before you die are shit as you struggle to do basic things like getting off the couch or walking.
Bruh I don't wanna get that old. I'll let the young bloods have some natural resources before everyone kills each other.
Stress is one of the biggest killers and reducers of quality of life around... but we don't find many moral crusaders yelling at us to stop getting stressed and live better lifestyles (I guess in part because there's a certain ironic hypocrisy to doing that).
Like stress is this chemical your brain releases into itself and your body to provide you with momentary boost of concentration. It's a useful thing - which is why we have the mechanism in the first place.
But it's also not meant to be there for protracted periods of time. Which is why it's called stress - and not just the default baseline for standard healthy operation. It essentially corrodes the brain and vascular system across protracted periods of time.
Ironically, stressing about been fit and healthy may be unhealthy for you - especially if you're the type it doesn't come naturally to.
That's why I'm all about finding the 'easy solutions' that synergize interesting, fun and appealing with healthier outcomes... it's a win win!
Surface of Me
I'm not an NPC. And neither are we.
I think genes are on my side. My dad was a heavy alcoholic for 20-30 years. He is 71 and as active as ever.
I can't tell if you're joking or deliberating exaggerating, but you don't have to abandon junk food outright or exercise to maintain a healthy body weight. The key is just moderating your portions.
Via Purifico
Banned
"enjoying food" and being obese are two different things. All things can be enjoyed in moderation.
The reason why it's only a 3 year difference is because our health care has improved. However more obese people only means a bigger strain on our health care system and increasing health insurance costs for the rest of us.
Imp the Dimp
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3 years is not much but living your whole life out of shape can certainly leave other marks. I'm glad I lost those 40 pounds.
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Yes. Quality of life is more important. Enjoying double cheeseburgers now vs walking around in a lard suit in pain with other medical complications later doesn't seem like a good deal to me.
Jo Shishido's Cheeks
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22 BMI here, I'm going to dedicate my extra 3 years of life to Monster Hunter
Most people probably because they want to look good. I honestly think this stat might just be all the unhealthy skinny people messing the numbers up!
Stereogatari
Banned
But are those 3 years worth sacrificing a lifetime of hedonism?
I'm taking an informal slightly hyperbolic tone for exaggerated effect. You only have to read a couple lines under the quoted portion to understand my actual opinion.
The last years don't necessarily have to be shit if you take care of your mind and body (and have a bit of luck). However, if you do things that actively destroy your body then the chance of your last years being shit undoubtedly increases.
The article doesn't seem to mention anything about the quality of life differences between various weight categories in the later stages of life. Which would also be interesting to have information on.
Good point. It makes me wonder if people who say something like "oh only 3 years?" think that people are generally super healthy and then suddenly out of nowhere drop dead 3 years before they're "supposed" to.
Nightmare452
Member
Thats it!?
Wow, my plan is working then. I never could convince myself (or really just have the will power) to change my entire eating habits to lose enought weight to go down to my standard weight on the BMI. I exercise 3-4 times a week, some cardio and some weights, but I am "overweight" based on my weight/height ratio and using the BMI. If its basically only a year lost, and a year from my older days, thats not an actual bad thing since I can eat candy and other delicious food from time to time.
Imp the Dimp
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Do you know your body fat%?
I wonder what type of life expectancy reductions people who were obese but then lose the weight and keep it off get. I've always been curious if that sort of trend is totally reversible, or if obese people sort of did the damage and there remains a cost in life expectancy. I used to be quite fat, so it's something I worry about now that I have my own family starting up.
pelicansurf
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Hooking up with girls, maybe.
Owning a healthy, strong body that looks good is more important to me than the added three years of life I might gain, tbh. I like being physically active.
Being overweight comes with more burdens than just a shortened life expectancy. I don't think anyone is happy that they are fat, ever. It's never worth it.
Being overweight comes with more burdens than just a shortened life expectancy. I don't think anyone is happy that they are fat, ever. It's never worth it.
Alex Stroud
Banned
Eating everything in sight means you'll die quicker?
Oh my stars and garters.
Oh my stars and garters.
Valkyr1983
Banned
How About No
Member
That's nice advice about moderation and whatnot, but there is an old saying that is still relevant today, "once you pop you can't stop"
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