Well, be prepared to be disappointed then. They can't take it out without completely redesigning the entire game from the ground up to work without it. Considering the cheevo list is exactly the same as the original and dead Rising 4 is right around the corner I highly doubt theyre remaking the game with this release.
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Dead Rising being remastered for PS4/XBO/PC, DR2 and OTR to PS4/XBO
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Well, be prepared to be disappointed then. They can't take it out without completely redesigning the entire game from the ground up to work without it. Considering the cheevo list is exactly the same as the original and dead Rising 4 is right around the corner I highly doubt theyre remaking the game with this release.
Jarod McChicken
Member
It depends. As far as we know, Dead Rising 3 will never come to a PlayStation or Nintendo console, but Dead Rising 4 is already a different affair. It's coming to PS4 December 2017 without any doubt. The logic behind the management of the series beats me to be honest.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
The 360 also got Case Zero (Dead Rising 2 prologue game) and Case West (Dead Rising 2 epilogue game) exclusively, as well as the Dead Rising Collection.
Backfoggen
Banned
What?
Get_craycray
Banned
That's not the point.
Tizoc
Member
They're following the trend of it originating on the 360 and as such all later games debut on xbox too
EricTheRed
Member
I've never understood the timer criticism in relation to this game. It encourages multiple playthroughs as the higher you are levelled the easier it becomes to get more side quests completed. On higher levels, completing every side quest and rescuing all the survivors is more than doable. Without the timer the game wouldn't be half as good. There's a sandbox mode available once the main game is completed.
It's equally stupid because every dead Rising game allowed you to fail the story and keep playing anyways, so a crying about a separate sandbox mode has always seemed to me rather pointless when you can just skip the story play to the end of day 3 and hit the reset button ad infinitum.
OrbitalBeard
Member
Dead Rising 1 is soooooo good. If this is real, it's a must-buy for me.
EricTheRed
Member
I understand your point but as far as I'm concerned, failing the story is just a way to get one of the alternative endings.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
Not saying it was. I'm very surprised they are bothering to release DR4 a year later. Maybe this game is to try and get people more familiar with the franchise?
The Fat Bulgarian Kid
Member
Really hope this is true. The first Dead Rising was one of the reasons for me to get a xbox360. Day one if it comes on the ps4.
Bjoern the Smexy
Member
Why son't you play the Wii version then?
Reported.
LifeBrandRobot
Member
Isn't DR4 coming out on PS4 after a year? Guess Capcom wants to remind the PS4 owners that DR still exists before that one comes out lol.
Yeah play a different game. The whiners got their way and changed God of War fuck the whiners if they change Dead Rising.
Eh, it's not like they're missing much with DR3 anyways. Based on what we've seen of 4, they seem to be locking 3 in a closet and trying to forget it ever happened.
A shame because I think poor Nick deserves another go around. His baffled innocence is such a breath of fresh air in a genre filled to the brim with grim machismo.
They already won, though. DR3 and 4 are basically Dynasty Warriors with Zombies.
peanutbutterlatte
Member
If it's co-funded by MS, there's no way, similarly to how Spiderman will never see release on an MS console.
I'd be up for this, DR1 was such a cooky fun little game.
There is no "choice" here. There's your side arguing to strip a series of its mechanical identity so they will play it, and there's the people who actually like dead rising games telling you it's better to just play something else rather than ruin the game.
Dead Rising 3 tried to split the difference and fell flat on its face in the process, learning the hard lesson that you can't design two games at once.
+1
I own the game on 360 and barely touched it because of the timer (as well as some other nitpicks), screw that crap.
I've played Dead Rising 2 many times and I love it, but as far as I'm concerned the time mechanic just holds it back. If you could tick a box in the options to turn it off that would make me extremely happy. That's all I'm saying.
Please don't refer to me alone as "my side".
Kenzodielocke
Banned
No. It has a one year console exlusivity. 90 days for Windows Store.
There is an unlockable mode in the original game that gives you infinite time to play around with and disables the timer sensitive gameplay while adding it's own unique challenges. Play that instead of messing up the main mode.
akilshohen
Member
Just saw that trophy list, that's definitely DR1.
I'm just wondering why isn't the port coming to XB1 also?
I'm just wondering why isn't the port coming to XB1 also?
MilkLizard
Member
So getting rid of the most important gameplay element? Ok.
Then play a different game if you don't want Dead Rising to be, well, Dead Rising. That's all I'm saying.
Context is important, and the timer recontextualizes everything in the game to the point where if you rip it out the entire house of cards that is the game falls down. I mean I just do not get it. There are hundreds if not thousands of zombie games out there in all different flavors and shapes. Play one of those. Dead Rising doesn't have to be butchered to satisfy you. There are other fish in the sea, after all.
peanutbutterlatte
Member
Oh fantastic. I might actually bother looking up some info on it now
What's wrong with adding a toggle to the main story, though? That doesn't detract from the experience of people who want to play the game as it was originally designed, but also lets people who want the game to be less strenuous to play the game their way.
Like I said, choice is good. I don't want to take anything away from the people that like the way Dead Rising 1 is, I just want more accessibility options to be added to the game.
But I don't want to. I want to play Dead Rising but with the option to remove the parts I don't like. And Capcom is very clearly inclined to provide that experience, considering the fact that they made the time limit optional for Dead Rising 3 and seemingly removed it altogether for Dead Rising 4.
I don't see why they couldn't do it again for a Dead Rising remaster. Capcom is no stranger to going above and beyond the call of duty on remasters like this. Being this staunchly against the idea of adding a timer toggle to DR1 is like being strongly opposed to adding Vergil to DMC4:SE because you think Dante/Nero is the only way the game should ever be experienced.
JumPeRJumPzZ
Banned
Same here
Dead Rising almost sold me on a 360 back in the day. Then I heard all the RRoD stories and decided to wait for MS to get thier shit together. In that time the PC became vastly more appealing as a platform and the PS3 overtook it in exclusives I wanted so in the end I never ended up owning a 360. I very much look forward to finally playing DR if this is true.
It's rare to buy a system just for one series. Seems weird to me you think that everyone who wants it already has an Xbox.
Edit: Just to add that although I've never played it I'm on team keep the timer. I know the pain of a timer being removed and taking away all urgency that was there originally. Jet Set Radio Future just wasn't quite the same as the original without it.
EricTheRed
Member
How do you remove a timer from a game when the whole story and every side mission is based around that timer?
NinjaBoiX
Member
They should get rid of the stamina bar in the Souls games too.
No, you don't. Even if you don't realize it.
I've already explained why you can't just rip the timer out and call it a day. You would have to redesign the entire game from the ground up. The story is tiered, and branches in ways that doesn't, and cannot work without the timer. The level design is built around movement and tasking you to find faster paths through areas. The zombies are there not to kill, but to get in your way and slow you down. The sidequests all trigger based on time of day. An entire antagonistic faction is woven into the plot based purely on time of day. 90% of the bosses are structured around the sidequests and the game putting them in your shortest path to slow you down, forcing you to take the long way around to bypass them and lose even more time.
The entire game falls apart without it. DR's world is a living, breathing environment that never slows down for you. You are a part of it, not the crux of it. Like I said before: it's akin to crying about ripping out the day system from Majora's Mask. How would that even work? How would the game structure it's world without it? You can't just stop it with a kill switch because then events that structure the world no longer spin, and thus no longer merge together with each other anymore in order to form the world.
Necromanti
Member
Weren't reviews for DR3 kind of mixed, though, since it sounds like they missed the point of the series? DR4 seems to be committing to that direction.Good thing is that the DR4 devs thought the opposite
So yeah, nah
Crab Milk Mickey
Member
It'll be amazing if this remaster actually happens.
It is a bothersome complaint because not only was ignoring the timer already an option from the get-go if you just wanted to kill zombies, said mindset also lead to each sequel progressively getting worse and less distinct compared to its competition, whilst leaving the fans of the original with no valid alternatives. Never mind that additionally there's also a separate sandbox mode precisely for that crowd, but hey, more power to senseless requests.
mcz117chief
Member
I haven't played the other Dead Rising games beyond the first one so I don't know how they work, however, I do know that the 1st game is revolving around the time mechanic. It's not something that was added there, the timer is the cornerstone of the game and thus I have no idea whatsoever how it could work without it. For example, how would the game know when to start the relevant story events or side quests or minor events that are happening all around the mall and when to spawn which enemies/people?
It would probably be the sandbox mode with the story attached to it but I don't know if there is a way to make that work and still be good.
I understand that some people just want to chill and do stuff without feeling any pressure. Well you know what? I felt exactly the same so I completely ignored the story and just messed around for two weeks. When I leveled up and felt like I want more from the game I just restarted and did the story. So I did both, played with and without the timer and I had a ton of fun with both.
It would probably be the sandbox mode with the story attached to it but I don't know if there is a way to make that work and still be good.
I understand that some people just want to chill and do stuff without feeling any pressure. Well you know what? I felt exactly the same so I completely ignored the story and just messed around for two weeks. When I leveled up and felt like I want more from the game I just restarted and did the story. So I did both, played with and without the timer and I had a ton of fun with both.
GhostTrick
Banned
Dead Rising 1 is the only exclusive. And that is if we don't count the Wii butched port. How is it an Xbox brand ??
Good thing is that the DR4 devs thought the opposite
So yeah, nah
This is a pretty dumb post.
There's a world of difference between designing a game from the ground up without the timer, and demanding a game that's already finished have it ripped out.
Besides, Dead Rising and DR3/4 are essentially not even the same series anymore design wise. Dead Rising is about the clock while DR3/4 are about killing zombies. DR as a series fell down the same trap that sonic did where theseries slowly morphed into the marketing. Difference between Sonic and DR though is that making a game about SPEED(tm) is a lot harder than making a game about killing zombies.
Backfoggen
Banned
We don't know if it doesn't. All we have are the PS4 trophies.
I can see them maybe adding additional modes without a timer but removing the timer from the main game won't work.
APZonerunner
Member
The achievement list makes me wonder if this'll actually be a bare bones port, and if the Xbox One version will just end up being them enabling BC and selling DR digitally for the first time. Red Dead proves that over on that side they can showcase improved performance on Xbox One emulation by just tweaking the game a little then releasing it still as a 360 BC game, and DR could certainly do the same... then a mega-budget release for PS4.
Just give Frank West The World.
Because a vast majority of the gameplay is still heavily dependent on that system. What's the point of Kent's photo challenge if you're not on a time limit to get the perfect shots? Why is getting all 50 survivors something special if you can just walk around and grab them whenever? If there's no time-based events, does every sidequest that isn't adhering to the story appear all at once? Since a large part of removing the timer is to make it harder to fail, what happens if the survivors die? How would you get the alternate endings if the timer wasn't a factor? What about overtime?
Simply put, it changes the game too much. I doubt anyone who's a fan of Majora's Mask would say that the game would be improved without a timer that's central to nearly every event, quest, and character interaction in the game.
Good thing is that the DR4 devs thought the opposite
So yeah, nah
Good thing the DR4 devs don't need to touch this game. If they make DR4 a good game without a timer, that's great, but DR1 is built around it so removing it would be silly. If anything, just make the free mode unlocked by default and you'll get your sandbox. The 72 hour mode doesn't need tweaking.