WhiteRabbitEXE
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I did say in general.
No, it's not perfect in that regard, but most of it's pretty good looking, and it's far, far less offensive than say, Attack of the Clones is in parts.
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Examples of old movies with CGI that has aged well
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I did say in general.
No, it's not perfect in that regard, but most of it's pretty good looking, and it's far, far less offensive than say, Attack of the Clones is in parts.why
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One of the many reasons Jurassic Park looks so good is the incredible animation. They worked with old school puppeteers using custom built puppets that translated their movements 1:1 to the 3D models (CG animators just weren't as experienced then) to make sure that all the animation was evocative and lively.
The raptors are obviously CG in the kitchen scene, but they move so well my brain barely cares at all because it's too busy focusing on their authentic and terrifying predatory presence.
The JP Bluray making of extras are ESSENTIAL viewing if you're fond of the film.
The raptors are obviously CG in the kitchen scene, but they move so well my brain barely cares at all because it's too busy focusing on their authentic and terrifying predatory presence.
The JP Bluray making of extras are ESSENTIAL viewing if you're fond of the film.
AppleSeason
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not sure if that counts, given that supposedly the scene is made traditionally with a bit of help from the computer.
WhiteRabbitEXE
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Well, not the entire scene mind you. There are actually several different practical effects being used throughout that scene as well.
But yeah, Jurassic Park to this day has some of the best animation of any film ever. Every subtle movement is pure perfection, and it's the reason why they're so believable, even more so than digital effects that are objectively superior from an artistic standpoint. And there's incredible attention to detail in the models and smaller movements as well. The breathing and the movement of the musculature under the skin for example, things that are often left out or are undercooked. (a lot of it is why Avengers' Hulk is so much better than older CGI Hulks, even more so than any technical improvements)
WhiteRabbitEXE
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what the fuck
$45 million in 2012?
Did they literally give $990,000 of it to the cast, $10,000 to an art school student to animate, and then set fire to the other $44,000,000 just because?
Daffy Duck
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Flight of the Navigator
I watched this the other day on TV and it certainly doesn't still hold up today, it's not bad by any means, it's perfectly serviceable, but I would not say it has aged well.
Franchuzas87
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I agree with Terminator 2.
I rewatched it a couple of weeks ago after several years without doing so, and while the T-1000 transformations are obviously CG, they are almost never distracting in the sense "look at that old technology, lol". Being a great film also helps.
I rewatched it a couple of weeks ago after several years without doing so, and while the T-1000 transformations are obviously CG, they are almost never distracting in the sense "look at that old technology, lol". Being a great film also helps.
Chuckie
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What the flying fuck?!
Spiritwalker
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Yeah LotR looks great if you ignore some of the copy paste soldiers on the battlefields. Balrog still da best.
WhiteRabbitEXE
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At least the CTRL + C, CTRL + V was done better than it was in Five Armies. Eesh.
MarkMclovin
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Zodiac?
I mean, I know it's nearly 10 years old, but I doubt many people know how much CGI was used, it looks so good.
I mean, I know it's nearly 10 years old, but I doubt many people know how much CGI was used, it looks so good.
The stained glass knight in Young Sherlock Holmes IS CGI.
Also, it was done by John Lasseter I believe.
Starts at about 13:30
Whatch the whole thing it is really interesting.
Industrial Light and Magic: Creating the Impossible
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBRoi09nV7w&feature=share
nkarafo
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My picks are the stained Glass knight from Young Sherlock Holmes and the T-Rex night scene in Jurassic Park.
Here is the stained glass knight scene. Pretty creepy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKb61j8P4fU
Here is the stained glass knight scene. Pretty creepy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKb61j8P4fU
I recently rewatched Titanic and a lot of the CGI & practical effects are very obvious. It's a technical achievement but it hasnt aged too well.Titanic
Grizzlyjin
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Watched a bazillion times as a kid on HBO and once a year as an adult, and I would say the CG cold breath has aged the worst. It was cool at the time but now it sticks out.
pixelpatch
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Terminator or Jurassic Park films, they look great even today
ZackieChan
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Why is everyone so impressed that the Jeep in the T-Rex scene is CGI? Non-organic objects are way easier to do than organic. You guys are weird sometimes.
aygomyownroad
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Pixar must be shaking in their boots. That was awesome!
WhiteRabbitEXE
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I imagine it's less that "wow, I can't believe they managed to render a car!" and more "holy shit I can't believe it never occurred to me that they rendered the car!"
On a side note, I think some people are not realizing that the close ups of the T-Rex tearing apart the car are fully practical. Which might be we people are so impressed.
Also, for the love of God everyone in this topic, that's a Ford Explorer, not a Jeep!
Captain Smoker
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The Fifth Element - 1997
Shit will look good forever.
Shit will look good forever.
JordanN
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Everything in CGI is hard to do. There's no easy button that separates one thing from the other.
The Jeep still needed to be modeled, textured and lit. It then needs to interact with the dino when it's stepped on, so it needs it's own rig/deformation physics. Finally, it needs to be composited which means having it match the scene's perspective and grading it with everything else giving it, its final real look. All in all, it's impressive considering they could have used a real car to get similar results.
They were referring to the gif posted of the T-1000 from Terminator 2 with it's head blown apart as not being CGI, that was practical. The stained glass knight is CGI and awesome, yes.
ZackieChan
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Now imagine doing all of that, but with underlying muscles and needing to look "alive." = Harder to do
XANDER CAGE
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The T-Rex night attack still looks incredible.
I know it's not too old (7 years) but its CGI hasnt been topped. EVERYTHING is CGI.
Davy Jones would be my second pick.
These are both obviously still super impressive (although man, Avatar is starting to look a little rough if you look at some of the environment work there. 7 years!) but it amazes me that we *still* can't quite make CGI models look like they're really interacting with ground. In motion and with good direction/quick cutting, we barely notice it in motion. But look at the T-Rex's foot, and the Na'vi's hand. They just don't look like they're truly touching the surface the character is meant to be resting on. The lighting just isn't complex enough. This is the next big hurdle that needs to be overcome with CGI for true photorealism. It's not a knock against these movies that it's noticeable (especially not for Jurassic Park, considering its age) but it's still crazy to me how much CGI characters stick out against backdrops still.
Take Gollum, for example. Considering The Two Towers is 14 years old now, Gollum is still incredibly impressive, particularly his expressiveness - but look at how awkward his hands and feet look in full-body shots (which are, wisely, avoided for the most part in the films):
Watch this scene and notice how well they hide it. It's a good thing they did, because in the brief moments where you can pause and look at how he interacts with the environment, the shadows just aren't believable in the slightest.
For a more recent example, check out how much TARS sticks out in Interstellar, which I would venture is one of the best looking films of 2014:
My answer was going to be Jurassic Park regardless, but this is crazy lol. I never would haven even speculated the jeep was cgi at all
WhiteRabbitEXE
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I don't think the poster was saying it's actually a simple task to render the Explorer. Just that, combatively speaking, it's easier to pull off a believable inanimate object than a digital creature/person. And I wouldn't say that's false. Digital objects pass unnoticed in pretty much every major movie, but characters and animals are VERY hit and miss, as there's so much more that goes into making a living CGI object that passes scrutiny.
Not a movie, but whenever the subject of great CGI comes up, I immediately think of Bjork's All Is Full of Love video from 1999.
Although some in the comments mention the robot bodies aren't CGI.
Although some in the comments mention the robot bodies aren't CGI.
Forgot how well done that was. Fincher seems generally really good about using CGI. (However I could have done without that coffeecan handle shot. That's a bit too on the nose)
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Toy Story 1995
Still looks amazing considering it was being made with 1994 computers !
Is that the original render?
The Hobbit, to me, looked off in many parts the moment it came out, it is an absolute cgi fest, with no effort put in to apply it only in the most convincing ways. The fact that the trilogy basically has cartoon physics at many points, with the animators doing whatever the fuck they want, doesn't make it any better either.
I enjoy the first two Hobbit films, but the use of CGI was way over the top for me.
I thank god that recent large blockbusters such as the Nolan films, Star Wars, and even Civil War, didn't shy away from practical effects when appropriate.
I think computer, not 100%
Only thing I remember was that it was a guy in a red suit and he was replaced with the camouflage effect somehow.
haha, now I noticed the arm actually split before Arnold hit the dude if you paused at the right time
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYQMfT6nsQs&t=3m9s
Jungle Book took the same approach and is equally amazing. I can't imagine what the avatar sequels will look like.
Jurassic Park was my first thought as well. Watched it last year, many years since the last time I saw it, and still think it looks great. CG aside, the whole movie is as amazing as ever.
LotR holds up well too. Like JP, I watched the trilogy for the first time since it came out in theaters and it still looks great.
I had no idea this existed and it is so very embarassing. My god.
Great example! Still looks fantastic (like all of her videos). Like some of the other examples, the director matters here and Chris Cunningham has done some great stuff.
LotR holds up well too. Like JP, I watched the trilogy for the first time since it came out in theaters and it still looks great.
I had no idea this existed and it is so very embarassing. My god.
[boots];210943371 said:
Great example! Still looks fantastic (like all of her videos). Like some of the other examples, the director matters here and Chris Cunningham has done some great stuff.
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Good choice. Not that old though, but whatever.
I would also go with the ending of Hannibal:
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CyclopsRock
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That's not actually a frame from the film, though.
ragevvorks
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While it's not as old, cg tech moves incredibly fast, so 6 real world years later this still looking good is actually impressive!
Most modern CGI-heavy movies are aged by the time they release...
Aggelos
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Ya guys, the Jurassic Park movies of the 90s feature truly well-aged CGI! Fantastic job!
You gotta love Industrial Light and Magic and their work back in the 90s (people here posted The Abyss, Terminator 2, Jumanji, )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industrial_Light_&_Magic
And Digital Domain did some amazing CGI work back in the 90s that holds up until now, since it has aged well
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Domain
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_Pictures_Imageworks
You gotta love Industrial Light and Magic and their work back in the 90s (people here posted The Abyss, Terminator 2, Jumanji, )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industrial_Light_&_Magic
And Digital Domain did some amazing CGI work back in the 90s that holds up until now, since it has aged well
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Domain
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_Pictures_Imageworks
Was it ever true it was Van Damme in those scenes?
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